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<joakim> scribe: Pierre Antoine
<pchampin> scribe: pchampin
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2010/03/16-mediaann-minutes.html
minutes approved
florian volunteers
for next tuesday, 11:00 UTC
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
joakim: we should change the title of action 47
werner: I will do it
<fsasaki> still open, ACTION-124 , as a reminder ...
<fsasaki> felix: yes, will change the title
joakim: 4 next actions for David, who is not here
werner: action 135 is done already; we already discussed the consequences
<chris> I agree with werner to drop 135
<daniel> I talked with Dave Singer during the last AC and he said he won't ba able to work on MAWG. I'd suggest to take off all of his items.
werner: and action 149 referes to an old version of the document
close ACTION-135
<trackbot> ACTION-135 update description of location to represent shot location closed
close ACTION-149
<trackbot> ACTION-149 Review of whole of ontology doc with veronique closed
ACTION-209?
<trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Florian Stegmaier to share his image metadata with the group (when he has it) -- due 2010-02-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/209
<chris> I think that the actions by David are not influencing other work so they can be closed
florian: still ongoing, the student has not provided the metadata yet
ACTION-217
ACTION-217?
<trackbot> ACTION-217 -- Joakim Söderberg to ask Sylvia to review the doc -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/217
joakim: I asked Sylvia; she sent a mail to tell she would give her review by the end of april
close ACTION-217
<trackbot> ACTION-217 Ask Sylvia to review the doc closed
<chris> is daniel on the phone?
joakim: has Daniel sent this question to the webapp group?
<daniel> Yes, I officially requeted the review to webapp and DAP WG
<joakim> Wonsuk status on action 214?
<wonsuk> just a minute..
<daniel> Action-218 can be closed
<joakim> I will ask geolocation to ask our API doc!
<joakim> Do we still want review from geolocation?
<chris> yes
<chris> imo
ACTION-218 ongoing: still have to ask geolocation
<joakim> keep 218 open, I will ask geolocatio for review!
ACTION-219
ACTION-219?
<trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Felix Sasaki to update the API doc e with the service description -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/219
ACTION-220?
<trackbot> ACTION-220 -- Thierry Michel to investigate into the tool to transform WebIDL example intoi testsuite -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/220
<fsasaki> is not done yet, ACTION-219
<tmichel> http://suika.fam.cx/www/webidl2tests/readme
thierry: have been investigating
that tool (URI above)
... one side remark:
... we have pieces of code embeded in the API doc
... needs to have a PRE element with class "idl"
<chris> where is this added? (in the xslt?)
<chris> the pre-element is not in the xml input but in the html output
thierry: then we can validate the
WebIDL more easily
... We also need a piece of code to show how to instanciate the
object.
... This tool is nice, but does not support the latest version
of WebIDL currenty.
... It will be updated by may/june, which should meet our
constraints.
... We should write some tests manually, then use the tool to
generate more test cases.
<chris> +q
<joakim> chris!
chris: the XML is generated
automatically; how do we add the PRE element?
... currently, we insert a DEF, which gets automatically
transformed into a PRE
thierry: I will investigate this
<joakim> pa?
<scribe> ACTION: tmichel to investigate how to create def elements with class "idl" in the generated XML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-228 - Investigate how to create def elements with class "idl" in the generated XML [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-04-06].
<chris> dominique (dom) has sent a review on the API a while a go
close ACTION-220
<trackbot> ACTION-220 Investigate into the tool to transform WebIDL example intoi testsuite closed
ACTION-222?
<trackbot> ACTION-222 -- Soohong Daniel Park to send mail to list about adding syntactic mappings -- due 2010-03-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/222
<joakim> Daniel, do you want to comment action 222?
<daniel> action 222 and 223 are still open.
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 222
joakim: isn't action 222 related to the mail I sent to the group about relations?
<fsasaki> close ACTION-222
<trackbot> ACTION-222 Send mail to list about adding syntactic mappings closed
<joakim> Daniel, do you want to comment action 223?
<daniel> 223 is still open.
ACTION-224?
<trackbot> ACTION-224 -- Véronique Malaisé to check together with other ontology doc editors results from webapps review and make updates -- due 2010-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/224
ACTION-224 ongoing
ACTION-225?
<trackbot> ACTION-225 -- Véronique Malaisé to inclusion of mapping table into ontology document -- due 2010-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/225
thierry: that is done through links. A link for each format.
joakim: is there something for Véronique to do?
thierry: if you want the editors
to update the links, it should be done in the XML source
... by updating the 22 links. I can provide the links.
joakim: leave it open, then
<chris> ongoing
ACTION-227 ongoing
joakim: for the ontology doc, we need to improve the mapping table
wonsuk: before going to LC, we
will receive the comments from W3C experts from other
groups
... inc. Robin Berjon
<fsasaki> Felix: think we could implement Robin's comments, that will be a good preparation for last call
wonsuk: don't know how long we have to wait.
joakim: Daniel, you could set a deadline for reviews.
<daniel> Agreed,
action daniel to inform reviewers about the deadline
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<daniel> let's remind them for our due...in 2 weeks ? make sense for our milestone (one week before the next f2f)
action spark3 to inform reviewers about the deadline
<trackbot> Created ACTION-229 - Inform reviewers about the deadline [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2010-04-06].
joakim: maybe we should define minimum information to be put in the mapping table?
werner: there could be a minimum
criteria for columns for each field
... e.g. "at least a name and a datatype"
... completeness is hard to achieve or check, depending on the
formats
joakim: agreed on those two column. What about the "syntactic mapping" column?
<fsasaki> Felix: it might be good (in addition) to see what the reviewers say - we could ask them in the review request "what is in a good shape (that is what is the minimum level of useful information) in your opinion?"
werner: could be. Let's see how the table evolves to know how strict we can be :)
<tmichel> yes we should have a dad line
joakim: with a deadline in two weeks, we could vote during the 13/04 telecon
<joakim> Daniel, how about voting/deciding for final version of Ontology doc the 13/4?
thierry: minimum is 4 weeks of LC before CR
<daniel> final revision for voting (all resolution of reviews) ?
thierry: once we've ended the LC
review, we need time to deal with all the comments
... usually about a month
joakim: that brings us to july
thierry: you can stay very little
time in CR
... depending on the level implementation
... my experience is that all comments come during the last
week of LC
<daniel> Daniel: so getting reviewers comments by April 13, voting for LC on April 20. is it doable ?
joakim: I still think that we
should try to aim at the 13/04
... to decide which parts of the mapping table we'll keep
... who can comment about the API document?
chris: we got some comments from Robin.
<chris> I am preparing answers to the comments of Robin
chris: comments from geolocation would be valuable as well.
<wonsuk> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/
wonsuk: the DAP working group is
using HTML+javascript for editing their document
... (see URI above)
... I propose that we switch to this solution
<joakim> chris /florian?
<joakim> do yo lie wonsuks proposal?
wonsuk: first benefit: easier to
edit
... second benefit: nicer output
<florian> from my point of view a document like the one wonsuk proposed would be nice, but we are near a final state...perhaps a waste of time at the moment to translate that?
wonsuk: the javascript can
generate WebIDL
... I can convert the API document.
<fsasaki> Felix: fine by me (moving to ReSpec)
tmichel: no issue with the W3C policy
<chris> I dont have problems with it if it does not take to much time
<chris> and if you can easily explain to other editors how to make edits
tmichel: but how much work will it take?
<florian> +1 @ chris
wonsuk: I think one week is enough
tmichel: does it need some modification of the script?
wonsuk: I would have to modify the script, but can copy the script used by the DAP WG
<joakim> lets try then!
tmichel: it should be up to the editor to chose the method to use
<joakim> PA can you give an Action item to Wonsuk!
action wonsuk to convert the API document to html+script format
<trackbot> Created ACTION-230 - Convert the API document to html+script format [on WonSuk Lee - due 2010-04-06].
<chris> regardless of the way the doc is created, I have integrated some/most of the comments of Robin in a new version of the API
<chris> so if Wonsuk bases him on the current API document I dont see any problems from my side
<chris> (updated version: http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html)
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/
<joakim> opinons about the MAWG logo?
<chris> it's nice!
<florian> i like it :)
<joakim> see you next week!
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