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15:59:20 <Norm> Zakim, this will be xproc
15:59:33 <Zakim> ok, Norm; I see XML_PMWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
15:59:35 <Norm> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
15:59:35 <Norm> Date: 25 Feb 2010
15:59:35 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/25-agenda
15:59:35 <Norm> Meeting: 169
15:59:35 <Norm> Chair: Norm
15:59:36 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
15:59:38 <Norm> ScribeNick: Norm
16:00:04 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/25-agenda
16:00:42 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()11:00AM has now started
16:00:56 <Zakim> +[ArborText]
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16:02:53 <Zakim> +Norm
16:03:15 <Zakim> +Vojtech
16:03:18 <MoZ> Zakim, code?
16:03:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 97762 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MoZ
16:03:49 <Norm> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:03:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see [ArborText], Norm, Vojtech
16:03:55 <Norm> Zakim, [Arbor is PGrosso
16:03:55 <Zakim> +PGrosso; got it
16:04:03 <Zakim> +MoZ
16:04:08 <Zakim> +Alex_Milows
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16:05:28 <Norm> Present: Paul, Norm, Vojtech, Mohamed, Alex
16:06:14 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda?
16:06:14 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/25-agenda
16:06:28 <Norm> Accepted.
16:06:33 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
16:06:33 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/18-minutes
16:06:36 <Norm> Accepted.
16:06:41 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: telcon, 04 Mar 2010?
16:06:51 <Norm> No regrets heard.
16:07:12 <Norm> Topic: xslt step with text output
16:07:17 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C021
16:07:48 <Norm> Norm: I propose we close this without action.
16:07:50 <Norm> Accepted.
16:08:02 <Norm> Topic: Test suite: variable-005
16:08:11 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C023
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16:08:55 <ht> zakim, please call ht-781
16:08:55 <Zakim> ok, ht; the call is being made
16:08:57 <Zakim> +Ht
16:11:10 <Norm> Vojtech: We now require a binding in p:xpath-context, so what does the sentence in 4.4 mean.
16:12:00 <Norm> ...it says you need a default readable port.
16:12:13 <Norm> Norm: Yes, I think an editorial change here makes sense, to explicitly note that the default readable port can be undefined
16:12:50 <Norm> Proposal: Leave the status quo, with the editorial fix mentioned above.
16:13:03 <Norm> Accepted.
16:13:12 <ht> zakim, mute me
16:13:12 <Zakim> Ht should now be muted
16:13:17 <Norm> Topic: Test suite: err-s0004-005
16:13:26 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C024
16:14:26 <Norm> Norm describes the issue.
16:14:36 <Norm> Norm: I don't feel strongly about it.
16:14:43 <Norm> Vojtech: We do a similar thing with parameter input port.
16:14:56 <Norm> Norm: I concede that this a little inconsistent.
16:15:51 <Norm> Proposal: Allow required='false' when select is used on p:option
16:17:09 <Norm> Vojtech: This change will also simplify tools that build pipelines.
16:17:14 <Norm> Accepted.
16:17:26 <Norm> Topic: try-namespaces
16:17:37 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C026
16:18:53 <Norm> Vojtech: In 2008, we decided to add "try-namespace"
16:19:17 <Norm> Norm: Ok, it was editorial sloppiness then
16:19:42 <Norm> Proposal: Fix the bug, change to try-namespace.
16:19:50 <Norm> Accepted.
16:20:02 <Norm> Topic: Namespace hint
16:20:10 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C027
16:21:03 <Norm> Norm: What if the document element is in no namespace.
16:21:15 <Norm> Vojtech: Just ignore the hint.
16:21:17 <Norm> Norm: I agree.
16:21:22 <Norm> Proposal: Ignore the hint.
16:21:37 <Norm> Accepted.
16:22:10 <Norm> Norm: And if there isn't a document there, that's ok true.
16:22:14 <Norm> s/true/too/
16:22:39 <Norm> General agreement
16:22:54 <Norm> Topic: Progress towards PR
16:23:12 <Norm> -> http://tests.xproc.org/results/comparison.html
16:23:25 <Norm> -> -> http://tests.xproc.org/testsuite/coverage.html
16:23:47 <Norm> Norm: We're done!
16:23:50 <Norm> Henry: Woo hoo!
16:26:25 <alexmilowski> Yippie!
16:26:26 <Norm> Norm: I assert that we have a complete test suite and two implementations of every relevant feature.
16:26:31 <Norm> Paul: Congratulations.
16:26:50 <Norm> Norm: I propose that we request transition to PR
16:27:01 <Norm> Accepted.
16:27:55 <ht> http://tests.xproc.org/testsuite/
16:28:35 <Norm> Norm: Henry, what are the next steps?
16:28:53 <Norm> Henry: You put together a transition request, I review it, and you send it.
16:29:08 <Norm> Paul: If you look at the draft transition request that I sent out for XLink 1.1, that should help.
16:29:42 <ht> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl
16:30:46 <Norm> Topic: Any other business
16:31:06 <Norm> None heard.
16:31:32 <Zakim> -Alex_Milows
16:31:33 <Zakim> -Ht
16:31:35 <Zakim> -PGrosso
16:31:35 <Zakim> -Norm
16:31:36 <Norm> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:31:37 <Zakim> -Vojtech
16:31:39 <Zakim> -MoZ
16:31:40 <Norm> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:31:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-xproc-minutes.html Norm
16:31:41 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()11:00AM has ended
16:31:43 <Zakim> Attendees were [ArborText], Norm, Vojtech, PGrosso, MoZ, Alex_Milows, Ht
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16:36:14 <Norm> I am opening a bottle of Champagne with dinner tonight!
16:39:23 <ht> So, remind me (he says unkindly), what year was it we were going to finish in 1 of?
16:47:24 <Norm> I think it might have been '08
16:52:18 <Norm> If it was '07, I don't want to know.
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