17:02:32 RRSAgent has joined #html-wg 17:02:32 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-html-wg-irc 17:02:34 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:02:34 Zakim has joined #html-wg 17:02:36 Zakim, this will be HTML 17:02:36 HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM 17:02:37 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference 17:02:37 Date: 21 January 2010 17:02:37 Zakim, code? 17:02:39 sorry, MikeSmith, I don't know what conference this is 17:02:43 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html 17:02:48 zakim, this will be html_wg 17:02:48 ok, rubys1, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started 17:02:55 Zakim, code? 17:02:55 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith 17:02:59 zakim, this is html_WG 17:02:59 MichaelC, this was already HTML_WG()12:00PM 17:03:00 ok, MichaelC; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM 17:03:05 +Cooper 17:03:06 Zakim, who's on the phone? 17:03:07 On the phone I see Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, +1.757.872.aaaa, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], Sam, ??P9, Cooper (muted) 17:03:27 -??P9 17:03:30 Zakim, Microsoft.a is me 17:03:32 +Eliot_Graff; got it 17:03:39 [Microsoft] is me 17:03:41 Zakim, call Mike 17:03:42 +Janina_Sajka 17:03:46 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 17:03:47 janina has joined #html-wg 17:03:50 +Mike 17:04:07 + +1.613.998.aabb 17:04:14 [Microsoft] is paulc 17:04:24 +[Microsoft.a] 17:04:28 Joshue has joined #html-wg 17:04:46 zakim, pick a scribe 17:04:46 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Mike 17:04:50 zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba,franko 17:04:50 +adrianba, franko; got it 17:05:04 +kliehm 17:05:08 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc 17:05:08 +paulc; got it 17:05:09 scribe: MikeSmith 17:05:30 agenda; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html 17:05:35 Topic: Due and overdue action items 17:06:31 +Radhika_Roy.a 17:06:44 Zakim, aaaa is Scott and others from AT&T 17:06:45 I don't understand 'aaaa is Scott and others from AT&T', MikeSmith 17:06:56 Zakim, aaaa is Scott+AT&T 17:06:56 +Scott+AT&T; got it 17:07:45 + +49.251.280.aacc 17:07:51 + +1.408.536.aadd 17:08:02 action-167? 17:08:02 ACTION-167 -- Cynthia Shelly to update table-summary -- due 2010-01-14 -- OPEN 17:08:02 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/167 17:08:09 Zakim, +49.251.280.aacc is me 17:08:09 +Julian; got it 17:08:46 + +1.218.340.aaee 17:08:50 cyns: I sent the change proposal to the mailing list earlier today 17:09:14 action-167: Cythia sent the change proposal to the mailing list earlier today 17:09:14 ACTION-167 Update table-summary notes added 17:09:38 cardona507 has joined #html-wg 17:09:42 Proposal at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Summary_Change_Proposal_Nov_18%2C_2009 17:09:50 Under consideration by A11Y TF. 17:09:57 masinter has joined #html-wg 17:10:24 + +1.831.454.aaff 17:10:26 close action-167 17:10:27 ACTION-167 Update table-summary closed 17:10:35 Zakim, mute me 17:10:35 sorry, cardona507, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 17:10:55 Zakim, +1.831.454.aaff is me 17:10:55 +cardona507; got it 17:10:56 action-138? 17:10:56 ACTION-138 -- Steve Faulkner to produce an ARIA matrix based on Henri's work -- due 2010-01-14 -- OPEN 17:10:56 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138 17:11:02 Zakim, mute me 17:11:02 cardona507 should now be muted 17:11:08 Zakim, who is on the phone 17:11:08 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', masinter 17:11:11 Good morning everyone 17:11:42 paulc: let's leave action-138 open, follow up on e-mail thread 17:11:54 action-160? 17:11:54 ACTION-160 -- Paul Cotton to write a Change Proposal for ISSUE-27 -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN 17:11:54 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/160 17:12:08 Proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1006.html 17:12:30 close action-160 17:12:30 ACTION-160 Write a Change Proposal for ISSUE-27 closed 17:12:43 zakim, [Microsoft.a] has tross 17:12:43 +tross; got it 17:12:46 paulc: discussion on action-160 taking place on mailing list 17:12:53 action-127? 17:12:53 ACTION-127 -- Maciej Stachowiak to establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN 17:12:53 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/127 17:13:15 action-127: paulc will talk with Maciej and report back 17:13:16 ACTION-127 establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts notes added 17:13:30 zakim, who is here 17:13:30 masinter, you need to end that query with '?' 17:13:33 zakim, who is here? 17:13:33 On the phone I see Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, Scott+AT&T, [Microsoft], Eliot_Graff, Sam, Cooper, Janina_Sajka, Mike, +1.613.998.aabb, [Microsoft.a], kliehm (muted), 17:13:36 ... Radhika_Roy.a, Julian, masinter, +1.218.340.aaee, cardona507 (muted) 17:13:39 [Microsoft.a] has tross 17:13:39 [Microsoft] has paulc 17:13:40 Open request to the systems team and will take time. 17:13:41 On IRC I see masinter, cardona507, Joshue, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, Eliot_Graff, mattmay, adrianba, paulc, cyns, shelleyp, Laura, kliehm, aroben, tH, miketaylr, 17:13:45 ... MikeSmith, shepazu, Lachy, tlr, ROBOd, Julian, krijnh, rubys1, arronei, hsivonen, karl, webben, CIA-1, gsnedders, jgraham, Shunsuke, gavin_, ed_work, hober, gavin, syp, 17:13:48 ... Dashiva, jmb, Yudai, drry, Philip, Hixie, trackbot, inimino, matt 17:13:55 No one on the systems team so far has the time to do this work. 17:14:21 zakim, [Microsoft.a] has tross,adrianba,franko 17:14:21 tross was already listed in [Microsoft.a], adrianba 17:14:22 +adrianba, franko; got it 17:14:27 -masinter 17:15:01 +masinter 17:15:10 action-163 due 2010-02-04 17:15:10 ACTION-163 MediaWiki successor for current MoinMoin based wiki due date now 2010-02-04 17:15:11 Zakim, aaee is me 17:15:11 +Laura; got it 17:16:15 Topic: review of newly submitted and revised change proposals 17:16:57 [paulc summarized current status] 17:17:24 Topic: Review of chair calls for proposals 17:17:44 updated agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html 17:18:39 paulc: several calls for proposals went out in the last 48 hours 17:19:33 larry, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html part 3 17:20:36 paulc: issue 81, Roy declined to work on this [within the time frame provided] 17:20:47 q+ 17:20:51 masinter: actually, he asked for more time 17:21:34 paulc: he asked for 4 months, and the chairs concluded that we could not give him that time 17:21:40 actually he asked for more time *or* to do it once other issues are resolved (because of the editorial impact) 17:21:42 q- 17:22:03 q? 17:23:06 New call for proposals for 9, 41, 78, 93, 94, 96, and 97 next week 17:23:37 aren't we going to run out of working group members who are actually active and willing to do any work? 17:24:05 Topic: Calls for Consensus this week 17:24:06 No Calls for Consenus this week. 17:24:08 [none] 17:24:32 No new issues this week. 17:24:32 Topic: New issues this week [none] 17:24:53 Topic: Heartbeat requirements 17:25:13 paulc: chairs have decided we are close enough to consensus on publishing 17:25:35 Joshue has left #html-wg 17:25:44 ... we believe we had one question open on Microdata, but also believe we can get resolution on that 17:26:10 on item 4, there are no CfC on Issues, but the CfC on heartbeat documents are ongoing, just think the topic name wasn't clear. 17:26:20 See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1025.html for info on publications status 17:26:40 paulc: editor will have the updated draft this weekend 17:27:24 ... so we plan to have a call for consensus for publishing at beginning of next week, and lasting one week 17:28:50 Scribe for next week? 17:28:53 paulc: we have 4 documents proposed to be published, and CfC will provide an option to vote on publication of each individually 17:29:08 -Eliot_Graff 17:29:09 Adjourned. 17:29:10 -Cynthia_Shelly 17:29:14 RRSAgent, make minutes 17:29:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith 17:29:18 -Cooper 17:29:19 thanks everyone - goodbye 17:29:20 -Sam 17:29:24 kliehm has joined #html-wg 17:29:33 -Julian 17:29:34 -Radhika_Roy 17:29:35 [adjourned] 17:29:36 -kliehm 17:29:37 - +1.613.998.aabb 17:29:37 -Janina_Sajka 17:29:39 -[Microsoft.a] 17:29:39 -[Microsoft] 17:29:39 -masinter 17:29:41 -cardona507 17:29:43 -Scott+AT&T 17:29:43 bye 17:29:45 -Radhika_Roy.a 17:29:46 -Mike 17:29:52 -Laura 17:29:53 HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended 17:29:55 Attendees were Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, +1.757.872.aaaa, Sam, Cooper, Eliot_Graff, Janina_Sajka, Mike, +1.613.998.aabb, adrianba, franko, kliehm, paulc, Scott+AT&T, 17:29:57 ... +1.408.536.aadd, Julian, +1.218.340.aaee, cardona507, tross, masinter, Laura 17:47:33 J_Voracek has joined #html-wg 18:09:24 Lachy has joined #html-wg 18:38:38 tametick has joined #html-wg 18:41:21 drunknbass_work has joined #html-wg 18:46:43 Stevef has joined #html-wg 18:47:39 hi MikeSmith: are the minutes of todays accessibility taskforce meet published yet? 18:59:09 arronei has joined #html-wg 19:07:44 cardona507_ has joined #html-wg 19:16:24 sbublava has joined #html-wg 19:40:30 MikeSmith has joined #html-wg 19:50:02 Zakim has left #html-wg 20:09:09 cardona507 has joined #html-wg 20:41:25 weinig has joined #html-wg 21:12:19 Lachy has joined #html-wg 21:32:41 J_Voracek has joined #html-wg 21:43:47 what's the deal with the LinkedIn spam on public-html? Has someone set public-html as their LinkedIn profile e-mail address? 22:38:56 weinig has joined #html-wg 22:40:24 mjs has joined #html-wg 23:14:51 plh has joined #html-wg 23:16:00 gavin_ has joined #html-wg 23:17:11 cardona507 has joined #html-wg 23:53:49 wow - Lachy -- I just got the spam email in public html also - what the heck?