14:57:37 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/08-sparql-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/08-sparql-irc ←
14:57:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:57:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
14:57:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes ←
14:57:42 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:57:42 <trackbot> Date: 08 November 2011
14:59:24 <swh> Zakim, who's on the phone?
Steve Harris: Zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:59:24 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, swh
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, swh ←
14:59:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see swh, Zakim, RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, AndyS, Olivier, LeeF, bglimm, SteveH, ericP, ya, trackbot, iv_an_ru, sandro, kasei, NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see swh, Zakim, RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, AndyS, Olivier, LeeF, bglimm, SteveH, ericP, ya, trackbot, iv_an_ru, sandro, kasei, NickH ←
14:59:34 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-11-08
15:00:02 <kasei> bah. zakim isn't liking 77277 for me again.
Gregory Williams: bah. zakim isn't liking 77277 for me again. ←
15:00:04 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be SPARQL ←
15:00:04 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now ←
15:00:17 <LeeF> kasei, try doing it in binary
Lee Feigenbaum: kasei, try doing it in binary ←
15:00:30 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
15:01:03 <swh> Zakim, ??P8 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P8 is me ←
15:01:04 <Zakim> + +43.517.073.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +43.517.073.aaaa ←
15:01:08 <Zakim> +swh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +swh; got it ←
15:01:21 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aabb ←
15:01:26 <kasei> Zakim, aabb is me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, aabb is me ←
15:01:27 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei; got it ←
15:01:38 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:01:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei ←
15:01:39 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.553.aacc ←
15:01:43 <LeeF> zakim, aacc is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aacc is me ←
15:01:43 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it ←
15:01:44 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aadd ←
15:01:58 <MattPerry> zakim, aadd is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aadd is me ←
15:02:02 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←
15:02:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:02:39 <swh> Zakim, who's on the phone?
Steve Harris: Zakim, who's on the phone? ←
15:02:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry ←
15:02:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry ←
15:03:52 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode? ←
15:03:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie ←
15:04:06 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby
Zakim IRC Bot: +OlivierCorby ←
15:04:30 <Zakim> + +1.216.368.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.368.aaee ←
15:05:00 <AxelPolleres> sandro, are you dialing in?
Axel Polleres: sandro, are you dialing in? ←
15:05:11 <AxelPolleres> chair: AxelPolleres
15:05:14 <Zakim> +??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←
15:05:21 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P24 is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P24 is me ←
15:05:21 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
15:05:26 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:05:26 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:05:32 <bglimm> echo is me
Birte Glimm: echo is me ←
15:05:33 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.368.aaee is me ←
15:05:33 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it ←
15:05:42 <bglimm> I always have to mute myself
Birte Glimm: I always have to mute myself ←
15:05:50 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim? ←
15:05:50 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres. ←
15:06:00 <AxelPolleres> zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: zakim, pick a victim ←
15:06:00 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose MattPerry ←
15:06:16 <AxelPolleres> scribe: MattPerry
(Scribe set to Matthew Perry)
15:06:44 <MattPerry> topic: Admin
15:06:47 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-01
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-01 ←
15:06:52 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
15:07:08 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-01
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-01 ←
15:07:19 <AndyS> zakim, ??P26 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P26 is me ←
15:07:19 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:08:02 <AxelPolleres> zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:08:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS ←
15:08:29 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: anything from RDF working group?
Axel Polleres: anything from RDF working group? ←
15:08:35 <AndyS> Nothing from RDF-WG
Andy Seaborne: Nothing from RDF-WG ←
15:08:52 <MattPerry> Topic: publication status
15:08:55 <AxelPolleres> topic: Current publication round (fed query and Overview)
15:09:15 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
15:09:23 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: tentative publication date for overview Nov. 10
Axel Polleres: tentative publication date for overview Nov. 10 ←
15:10:38 <MattPerry> ... should use same date for fed query
... should use same date for fed query ←
15:10:58 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:11:05 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
15:11:05 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←
15:11:10 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to follow up with sandro on final publication of Overview and Fed query at earliest possible date (tentatively 10 november)
ACTION: axel to follow up with sandro on final publication of Overview and Fed query at earliest possible date (tentatively 10 november) ←
15:11:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-545 - Follow up with sandro on final publication of Overview and Fed query at earliest possible date (tentatively 10 november) [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-545 - Follow up with sandro on final publication of Overview and Fed query at earliest possible date (tentatively 10 november) [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:12:00 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: sandro, can you do anything to help publication on the 10th
Axel Polleres: sandro, can you do anything to help publication on the 10th ←
15:12:07 <MattPerry> Sandro: yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
15:12:36 <AxelPolleres> topic: Next publication round
15:13:18 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall ←
15:13:21 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Idea is to get next publication round as second last call or candidate recommendation
Axel Polleres: Idea is to get next publication round as second last call or candidate recommendation ←
15:13:58 <MattPerry> ... want to go through each publication that is already in last call and assign reviewers to publish again by end of November
... want to go through each publication that is already in last call and assign reviewers to publish again by end of November ←
15:14:10 <MattPerry> subtopic: query
15:14:44 <MattPerry> swh: have about 4 hrs of changes to make
Steve Harris: have about 4 hrs of changes to make ←
15:14:54 <MattPerry> ... just editorial work. hoping to be done this week
... just editorial work. hoping to be done this week ←
15:15:21 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: is it ready for review?
Axel Polleres: is it ready for review? ←
15:15:40 <MattPerry> swh: prefer review after changes
Steve Harris: prefer review after changes ←
15:15:59 <MattPerry> AndyS: BGP bind and escaping rules remaining
Andy Seaborne: BGP bind and escaping rules remaining ←
15:16:29 <bglimm> I would volunteer to do Query again
Birte Glimm: I would volunteer to do Query again ←
15:16:31 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: lets go ahead and get 2 reviewers for each document
Axel Polleres: lets go ahead and get 2 reviewers for each document ←
15:16:50 <MattPerry> AndyS: cannot complete changes this week
Andy Seaborne: cannot complete changes this week ←
15:17:00 <kasei> I can review query.
Gregory Williams: I can review query. ←
15:17:08 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: reviewers?
Axel Polleres: reviewers? ←
15:17:31 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready
ACTION: greg to review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready ←
15:17:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-546 - Review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-546 - Review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:17:52 <bglimm> I volunteered already
Birte Glimm: I volunteered already ←
15:18:42 <MattPerry> Sandro: I can review something
Sandro Hawke: I can review something ←
15:18:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: birte to review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready
ACTION: birte to review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready ←
15:18:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-547 - Review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-547 - Review query 2nd LC as soon as it's ready [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:18:53 <AndyS> Please review as hard as time permits. Practically, this is the last chance to fix anything.
Andy Seaborne: Please review as hard as time permits. Practically, this is the last chance to fix anything. ←
15:19:08 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:19:08 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←
15:19:10 <MattPerry> subtopic: graph store protocol
15:19:26 <MattPerry> chimezie: have some minor changes to make in the next day or two
Chimezie Ogbuji: have some minor changes to make in the next day or two ←
15:19:36 <MattPerry> ... would like to complete these before reviews
... would like to complete these before reviews ←
15:20:01 <Zakim> -??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P27 ←
15:20:02 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: 2 more reviewers?
Axel Polleres: 2 more reviewers? ←
15:20:10 <Zakim> +??P3
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←
15:20:15 <cbuilara> zakim, P3 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, P3 is me ←
15:20:15 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named 'P3'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named 'P3' ←
15:20:24 <MattPerry> chimezie: comments should be addressed in next version
Chimezie Ogbuji: comments should be addressed in next version ←
15:20:24 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P3 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P3 is me ←
15:20:24 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
15:21:18 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: make sure commenters are happy with responses before 2nd last call or candidate rec
Axel Polleres: make sure commenters are happy with responses before 2nd last call or candidate rec ←
15:21:40 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: point commenters to changes in editor's draft
Sandro Hawke: point commenters to changes in editor's draft [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:21:43 <AndyS> Will review but can't guarantee when yet.
Andy Seaborne: Will review but can't guarantee when yet. ←
15:22:05 <swh> I'd like to review, but can't promise
Steve Harris: I'd like to review, but can't promise ←
15:22:21 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: can we go to candidate rec with the next version
Axel Polleres: can we go to candidate rec with the next version ←
15:22:54 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: AndyS Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready.
ACTION: AndyS Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. ←
15:22:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-548 - Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-548 - Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:23:02 <MattPerry> AndyS: i saw an email with substantive change requests
Andy Seaborne: i saw an email with substantive change requests ←
15:23:20 <MattPerry> chimezie: wondered if some changes were substantive, but decided they were not
Chimezie Ogbuji: wondered if some changes were substantive, but decided they were not ←
15:24:11 <MattPerry> ... there was one major change request that i am not doing
... there was one major change request that i am not doing ←
15:24:52 <MattPerry> ... one issue is use of RDF WG terminology
... one issue is use of RDF WG terminology ←
15:25:10 <MattPerry> AndyS: probably desirable but not required becuase RDF WG terminology is not finalized
Andy Seaborne: probably desirable but not required becuase RDF WG terminology is not finalized ←
15:26:03 <MattPerry> chimezie: terminology change is one possible remaining substantive change
Chimezie Ogbuji: terminology change is one possible remaining substantive change ←
15:26:44 <MattPerry> Sandro: it may look pretty bad in 6mos to 1 yr if the terminology is incompatible
Sandro Hawke: it may look pretty bad in 6mos to 1 yr if the terminology is incompatible ←
15:27:18 <MattPerry> ... I don't think terminoloy change is substantive
... I don't think terminology change is substantive ←
15:27:37 <AxelPolleres> Axel: The group agrees that Graph Store protocol can go ahead as CR, unless there are severe new comments coming in? (if terminology changes, we should be able to argue that this is not substantative?)
Axel Polleres: The group agrees that Graph Store protocol can go ahead as CR, unless there are severe new comments coming in? (if terminology changes, we should be able to argue that this is not substantative?) [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:27:38 <MattPerry> s/terminoloy/terminology
15:28:02 <MattPerry> s/terminoloy/terminology/
15:28:05 <AndyS> 2LC is no big deal.
Andy Seaborne: 2LC is no big deal. ←
15:28:21 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: still need 2nd reviewer
Axel Polleres: still need 2nd reviewer ←
15:28:29 <MattPerry> Sandro: I can do this one
Sandro Hawke: I can do this one ←
15:28:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: sandro to Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready.
ACTION: sandro to Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. ←
15:28:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-549 - Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-549 - Review Graph store protocol for 2nd LC/CR(?) as soon as it's ready. [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:28:56 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
15:28:56 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←
15:28:57 <MattPerry> subtopic: service description
15:29:10 <MattPerry> kasei: I think everything has been dealt with
Gregory Williams: I think everything has been dealt with ←
15:29:39 <MattPerry> ... should go to 2nd last call
... should go to 2nd last call ←
15:29:46 <AxelPolleres> ... we changed the name of a couple of terms.
Axel Polleres: ... we changed the name of a couple of terms. ←
15:30:00 <MattPerry> ... ready for review now
... ready for review now ←
15:30:13 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: volunteers for review
Axel Polleres: volunteers for review ←
15:30:23 <chimezie> i can review as well
Chimezie Ogbuji: i can review as well ←
15:30:32 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: I can review it
Axel Polleres: I can review it ←
15:30:41 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review service description for 2nd LC
ACTION: Axel to review service description for 2nd LC ←
15:30:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-550 - Review service description for 2nd LC [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-550 - Review service description for 2nd LC [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:31:01 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:31:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie (muted), bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie (muted), bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara ←
15:31:09 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:31:09 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←
15:31:43 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Chime to review service description for 2nd LC
ACTION: Chime to review service description for 2nd LC ←
15:31:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-551 - to review service description for 2nd LC [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-551 - to review service description for 2nd LC [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:31:54 <MattPerry> subtopic: entailment regimes
15:31:55 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:31:55 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:32:23 <MattPerry> bglimm: document is ready for review but should go to 2nd last call because we changed D-Entailment regime
Birte Glimm: document is ready for review but should go to 2nd last call because we changed D-Entailment regime ←
15:32:48 <MattPerry> ... all comments are addressed and have been sent out
... all comments are addressed and have been sent out ←
15:33:01 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: reviewers?
Axel Polleres: reviewers? ←
15:33:03 <bglimm> Zakim, mute
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute ←
15:33:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mute', bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'mute', bglimm ←
15:33:07 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:33:07 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:33:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
15:33:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AxelPolleres ←
15:33:44 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: I can give it a try
Axel Polleres: I can give it a try ←
15:33:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review entailment regimes document.
ACTION: Axel to review entailment regimes document. ←
15:33:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-552 - Review entailment regimes document. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-552 - Review entailment regimes document. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:34:18 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:34:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara ←
15:34:45 <MattPerry> OlivierCorby: I can review enatilment or update
Olivier Corby: I can review enatilment or update ←
15:36:31 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:36:31 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:36:34 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Lets keep 1 reviewer for now and try to get another next week
Axel Polleres: Lets keep 1 reviewer for now and try to get another next week ←
15:36:53 <MattPerry> bglimm: I can look for someone outside the WG
Birte Glimm: I can look for someone outside the WG ←
15:36:54 <AxelPolleres> see whether we can find a second reviewer for entailment next week, alternativelty, Birte tries to find someone from outside the WG.
Axel Polleres: see whether we can find a second reviewer for entailment next week, alternativelty, Birte tries to find someone from outside the WG. ←
15:37:01 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:37:01 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:37:04 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:37:04 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:37:17 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:37:17 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:37:20 <MattPerry> subtopic: update
15:37:33 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update ←
15:37:52 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Andy, what were you referring to about remaining items?
Axel Polleres: Andy, what were you referring to about remaining items? ←
15:38:31 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: will coordinate with Paul and Alex about when changes can be completed
Axel Polleres: will coordinate with Paul and Alex about when changes can be completed ←
15:38:40 <MattPerry> AndyS: there were some pending comments
Andy Seaborne: there were some pending comments ←
15:38:55 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update in coordination with Paul/Alex
ACTION: Axel to check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update in coordination with Paul/Alex ←
15:38:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-553 - Check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update in coordination with Paul/Alex [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-553 - Check http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update in coordination with Paul/Alex [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:39:26 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: matthew to review Update as soon as it's ready
ACTION: matthew to review Update as soon as it's ready ←
15:39:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-554 - Review Update as soon as it's ready [on Matthew Perry - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-554 - Review Update as soon as it's ready [on Matthew Perry - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:39:44 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: olivier to review update as soon as it's ready
ACTION: olivier to review update as soon as it's ready ←
15:39:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-555 - Review update as soon as it's ready [on Olivier Corby - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-555 - Review update as soon as it's ready [on Olivier Corby - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:40:01 <MattPerry> subtopic: protocol
15:40:18 <MattPerry> LeeF: no progress on updating document
Lee Feigenbaum: no progress on updating document ←
15:40:29 <MattPerry> ... can probably be ready by next week
... can probably be ready by next week ←
15:40:39 <AndyS> I will review protocol.
Andy Seaborne: I will review protocol. ←
15:40:48 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:40:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see swh, AxelPolleres, kasei, LeeF, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, chimezie, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Sandro, cbuilara ←
15:41:00 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: already ran out of reviewers on call
Axel Polleres: already ran out of reviewers on call ←
15:41:16 <MattPerry> LeeF: reviewers likely to find issues
Lee Feigenbaum: reviewers likely to find issues ←
15:41:31 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: will probably have to pick reviewers next week
Axel Polleres: will probably have to pick reviewers next week ←
15:41:55 <AxelPolleres> we will line up the reviewers for protocol next week.
Axel Polleres: we will line up the reviewers for protocol next week. ←
15:42:10 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:42:17 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments
15:42:40 <AndyS> q+ to ask about the JSON results format doc
Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask about the JSON results format doc ←
15:42:41 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Have gotten some new comments to assign
Axel Polleres: Have gotten some new comments to assign ←
15:43:15 <MattPerry> ... LeeF has asked about when comments can be responded to ... hopefully this week
... LeeF has asked about when comments can be responded to ... hopefully this week ←
15:43:27 <AxelPolleres> comment AM-1
Axel Polleres: comment AM-1 ←
15:43:35 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Nov/0014
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Nov/0014 ←
15:43:39 <MattPerry> ... New comment about HAVING clause ... anybody want it?
... New comment about HAVING clause ... anybody want it? ←
15:44:02 <MattPerry> AndyS: what about JSON results format doc?
Andy Seaborne: what about JSON results format doc? ←
15:44:16 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: did not consider it urgent for next publication round
Axel Polleres: did not consider it urgent for next publication round ←
15:44:58 <MattPerry> AndyS: there is no work to be done on it ... next step is CR
Andy Seaborne: there is no work to be done on it ... next step is CR ←
15:45:32 <MattPerry> ... only one editorial change
... only one editorial change ←
15:46:02 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: does not need reviewers ... it can go straight to CR
Axel Polleres: does not need reviewers ... it can go straight to CR ←
15:46:29 <MattPerry> ... I will move JSON results over to next round of publication
... I will move JSON results over to next round of publication ←
15:46:36 <AndyS> Also new comment, RC-5, which I found had been missed (LC comment)
Andy Seaborne: Also new comment, RC-5, which I found had been missed (LC comment) ←
15:46:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to move JSON results forward to next publication round in schedule
ACTION: axel to move JSON results forward to next publication round in schedule ←
15:46:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-556 - Move JSON results forward to next publication round in schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-556 - Move JSON results forward to next publication round in schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:47:36 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: AM-1 asking about when having clause is executed
Axel Polleres: AM-1 asking about when having clause is executed ←
15:47:48 <MattPerry> ... see if he understands current definition correctly
... see if he understands current definition correctly ←
15:48:12 <MattPerry> swh: I feel like I should do it but don't have the time
Steve Harris: I feel like I should do it but don't have the time ←
15:48:33 <bglimm> I can have a look
Birte Glimm: I can have a look ←
15:48:45 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:48:45 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:49:02 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to addresss comment AM-1
ACTION: Birte to addresss comment AM-1 ←
15:49:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-557 - Addresss comment AM-1 [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-557 - Addresss comment AM-1 [on Birte Glimm - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:49:03 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:49:03 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:49:12 <bglimm> Yes
Birte Glimm: Yes ←
15:49:40 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: next one is DB-16 asking for a new function
Axel Polleres: next one is DB-16 asking for a new function ←
15:50:02 <MattPerry> ... first reaction: this is interesting but not backed up by any implementation
... first reaction: this is interesting but not backed up by any implementation ←
15:50:20 <MattPerry> LeeF: I think he was mainly wanting to track this for the future
Lee Feigenbaum: I think he was mainly wanting to track this for the future ←
15:50:46 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Also DB-9 about prefix re-use
Axel Polleres: Also DB-9 about prefix re-use ←
15:50:59 <MattPerry> ... This is primarily for tracking for next time as well
... This is primarily for tracking for next time as well ←
15:51:09 <MattPerry> ... how do we ensure we get it tracked
... how do we ensure we get it tracked ←
15:51:23 <MattPerry> LeeF: we can just put it on the wiki page
Lee Feigenbaum: we can just put it on the wiki page ←
15:51:36 <MattPerry> AndyS: I have a problem with DB-16
Andy Seaborne: I have a problem with DB-16 ←
15:51:43 <AxelPolleres> my proposed response for DB-9 is here, BTW: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DB-9
Axel Polleres: my proposed response for DB-9 is here, BTW: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DB-9 ←
15:51:51 <swh> I agree with AndyS, it has punycode-type issues
Steve Harris: I agree with AndyS, it has punycode-type issues ←
15:51:59 <MattPerry> LeeF: lets just put it on a list for speed
Lee Feigenbaum: lets just put it on a list for speed ←
15:52:28 <MattPerry> AndyS: some groups do look at postponed issues with higher relevance
Andy Seaborne: some groups do look at postponed issues with higher relevance ←
15:52:56 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: also the features that were not addressed should go there to
Axel Polleres: also the features that were not addressed should go there to ←
15:52:59 <AndyS> This is a Turtle issue.
Andy Seaborne: This is a Turtle issue. ←
15:53:07 <MattPerry> Sandro: I suggest a future work page
Sandro Hawke: I suggest a future work page ←
15:53:08 <LeeF> "future work" sounds good to me
Lee Feigenbaum: "future work" sounds good to me ←
15:53:09 <swh> Or a curie issue
Steve Harris: Or a curie issue ←
15:53:48 <swh> Zakim, who's speaking?
Steve Harris: Zakim, who's speaking? ←
15:53:58 <MattPerry> AndyS: key issue: is it a starting point for the next charter
Andy Seaborne: key issue: is it a starting point for the next charter ←
15:53:59 <Zakim> swh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (50%), Sandro (35%)
Zakim IRC Bot: swh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (50%), Sandro (35%) ←
15:54:11 <AxelPolleres> XYZ to set ups a "future work" wiki page and put: postponed issues, postpones features, as well as postpones comments (e.g. DB-9, DB-16) on it.
Axel Polleres: XYZ to set ups a "future work" wiki page and put: postponed issues, postpones features, as well as postpones comments (e.g. DB-9, DB-16) on it. ←
15:54:47 <AndyS> same for DB-14a - its a candidate for a "heard - maybe next time" page
Andy Seaborne: same for DB-14a - its a candidate for a "heard - maybe next time" page ←
15:54:50 <MattPerry> AndyS: don't want last minute comments jumping into the future work section
Andy Seaborne: don't want last minute comments jumping into the future work section ←
15:55:22 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to discuss with lee where to put "future work"
ACTION: Axel to discuss with lee where to put "future work" ←
15:55:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-558 - Discuss with lee where to put "future work" [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-558 - Discuss with lee where to put "future work" [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-11-15]. ←
15:55:45 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: Comment RC-5
Axel Polleres: Comment RC-5 ←
15:55:56 <MattPerry> ... answer is that it's too late in the game
... answer is that it's too late in the game ←
15:56:31 <AndyS> q+ to ask to complete DB-14a with a "heard - maybe next time" page reply
Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask to complete DB-14a with a "heard - maybe next time" page reply ←
15:57:15 <MattPerry> AndyS: we had missed adding RC-5 to last call comments
Andy Seaborne: we had missed adding RC-5 to last call comments ←
15:57:41 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: anyone want to own this comment?
Axel Polleres: anyone want to own this comment? ←
15:58:15 <MattPerry> AndyS: you can assign it to me
Andy Seaborne: you can assign it to me ←
15:58:27 <MattPerry> ... it relates to David's latest one
... it relates to David's latest one ←
15:59:09 <MattPerry> AxelPolleres: any other business?
Axel Polleres: any other business? ←
15:59:24 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
15:59:37 <MattPerry> AndyS: can I complete DB-14a by saying "we will note it as future work"
Andy Seaborne: can I complete DB-14a by saying "we will note it as future work" ←
16:00:05 <AxelPolleres> DB-14a is also a good candiate for the future work page.
Axel Polleres: DB-14a is also a good candiate for the future work page. ←
16:00:06 <MattPerry> ... or we need to see how skolemization pans out
... or we need to see how skolemization pans out ←
16:01:24 <MattPerry> Sandro: as a commenter I would rather see it on the future work page
Sandro Hawke: as a commenter I would rather see it on the future work page ←
16:01:59 <Zakim> -chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie ←
16:02:05 <MattPerry> bye
bye ←
16:02:07 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:02:08 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:02:08 <Zakim> -swh
Zakim IRC Bot: -swh ←
16:02:11 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby
Zakim IRC Bot: -OlivierCorby ←
16:02:13 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
16:02:14 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
16:02:16 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
16:02:23 <AxelPolleres> ACTION-558 also take DB-14a into account here
Axel Polleres: ACTION-558 also take DB-14a into account here ←
16:02:23 <trackbot> ACTION-558 Discuss with lee where to put "future work" notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-558 Discuss with lee where to put "future work" notes added ←
16:02:29 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
16:02:52 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
16:05:23 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres ←
16:05:24 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended ←
16:05:26 <Zakim> Attendees were +43.517.073.aaaa, swh, +1.518.276.aabb, AxelPolleres, kasei, +1.617.553.aacc, LeeF, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, bglimm, chimezie, AndyS, Sandro,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +43.517.073.aaaa, swh, +1.518.276.aabb, AxelPolleres, kasei, +1.617.553.aacc, LeeF, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, OlivierCorby, bglimm, chimezie, AndyS, Sandro, ←
16:05:28 <Zakim> ... cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cbuilara ←
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