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13:56:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:56:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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13:56:26 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:26 <trackbot> Date: 13 July 2010
13:56:28 <LeeF> zakim, this will be sparql
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be sparql ←
13:56:31 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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13:58:04 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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13:58:12 <Zakim> + +44.186.528.aaaa
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13:58:27 <bglimm> Zakim, +44.186.528.aaaa is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, +44.186.528.aaaa is me ←
13:58:27 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
13:59:02 <Zakim> +kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei ←
13:59:14 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aabb
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13:59:26 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
13:59:26 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
13:59:28 <OlivierCorby> Zakim, aabb is me
Olivier Corby: Zakim, aabb is me ←
13:59:30 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +OlivierCorby; got it ←
13:59:30 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
13:59:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:59:46 <AndyS> zakim, +[IPCaller] is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, +[IPCaller] is me ←
13:59:51 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPCaller]'
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13:59:52 <Zakim> +??P14
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13:59:55 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P14 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P14 is me ←
13:59:59 <kasei> we should teach Zakim to recognize AndyS by the typing noises :)
Gregory Williams: we should teach Zakim to recognize AndyS by the typing noises :) ←
14:00:01 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it ←
14:00:04 <AndyS> zakim, +IPCaller is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, +IPCaller is me ←
14:00:09 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '+IPCaller'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '+IPCaller' ←
14:00:15 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
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14:00:18 <AndyS> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, [IPCaller] is me ←
14:00:21 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:00:21 <LeeF> zakim, IPCaller is AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, IPCaller is AndyS ←
14:00:26 <Zakim> sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller'
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14:00:36 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc
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14:00:45 <mperry> zakim, aacc is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:00:50 <Zakim> + +44.208.439.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.439.aadd ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> +mperry; got it
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14:00:52 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaee
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14:00:56 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:00:58 <SteveH_> Zakim, aadd is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, aadd is me ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> +SteveH_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH_; got it ←
14:01:03 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:01:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm (muted), kasei, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AndyS, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, mperry, SteveH_, +1.603.897.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm (muted), kasei, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AndyS, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, mperry, SteveH_, +1.603.897.aaee ←
14:01:18 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-07-13
14:01:19 <Souri> zakim, aaee is me
Souripriya Das: zakim, aaee is me ←
14:01:19 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri; got it ←
14:01:51 <kasei> where is the test CVS? same as docs?
Gregory Williams: where is the test CVS? same as docs? ←
14:02:05 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode? ←
14:02:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie ←
14:02:13 <kasei> thanks
Gregory Williams: thanks ←
14:02:18 <LeeF> e.g. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/
Lee Feigenbaum: e.g. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/ ←
14:02:48 <Zakim> + +1.216.636.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.636.aaff ←
14:03:01 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.636.aaff is me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.636.aaff is me ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it ←
14:03:25 <AlexPassant> ok
Alexandre Passant: ok ←
14:03:33 <LeeF> Scribenick: AlexPassant
(Scribe set to Alexandre Passant)
14:03:33 <LeeF> Regrets: AxelPolleres
14:04:10 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-07-06
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-07-06 ←
14:04:39 <AlexPassant> LeeF: minutes of last week, long discussion LET and assignement
Lee Feigenbaum: minutes of last week, long discussion LET and assignement ←
14:05:14 <AlexPassant> ... suggestion to have implementers write up the semantics on the list
... suggestion to have implementers write up the semantics on the list ←
14:05:19 <AlexPassant> ... to take a decision
... to take a decision ←
14:05:25 <AlexPassant> ... done by AndyS and LeeF
... done by AndyS and LeeF ←
14:05:30 <AlexPassant> ... pgearon will also do
... pgearon will also do ←
14:05:40 <AlexPassant> ... then we could take a decision
... then we could take a decision ←
14:05:44 <AlexPassant> ... as done for negation in the past
... as done for negation in the past ←
14:06:02 <AlexPassant> ... decision by web-based survey or t-con
... decision by web-based survey or t-con ←
14:06:07 <AlexPassant> ... first option is probably better
... first option is probably better ←
14:06:11 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-07-06
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-07-06 ←
14:06:19 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2010-07-20 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT
Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2010-07-20 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT ←
14:06:19 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:06:22 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←
14:07:06 <AlexPassant> ... will try to send test cases to the list
... will try to send test cases to the list ←
14:07:21 <AlexPassant> ... TC will be in CVS
... TC will be in CVS ←
14:07:43 <AlexPassant> ... if collecting TC, sync with LeeF sandro ivan or Axel for CVS access
... if collecting TC, sync with LeeF sandro ivan or Axel for CVS access ←
14:07:56 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:07:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm (muted), kasei, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AndyS, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, mperry, SteveH_, Souri, chimezie (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm (muted), kasei, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AndyS, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, mperry, SteveH_, Souri, chimezie (muted) ←
14:08:21 <AlexPassant> ... RDB2RDF published the 1st draft of UCR
... RDB2RDF published the 1st draft of UCR ←
14:08:27 <AlexPassant> ... mapping languages, etc.
... mapping languages, etc. ←
14:08:37 <LeeF> topic: test cases
14:08:46 <LeeF> subtopic: subquery
14:09:04 <AlexPassant> ... OlivierCorby put TC
... OlivierCorby put TC ←
14:09:05 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0010.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0010.html ←
14:09:14 <AlexPassant> ... Andy raised questions and observations
... Andy raised questions and observations ←
14:09:19 <AlexPassant> ... discussions on the previous thread
... discussions on the previous thread ←
14:09:35 <AlexPassant> ... look at each TC and discuss / approve
... look at each TC and discuss / approve ←
14:09:40 <AlexPassant> ... 10 TC
... 10 TC ←
14:10:55 <AlexPassant> ... Tests 1 and 2
... Tests 1 and 2 ←
14:11:03 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest.ttl
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest.ttl ←
14:11:11 <LeeF> :subquery01 rdf:type mf:QueryEvaluationTest ;
Lee Feigenbaum: :subquery01 rdf:type mf:QueryEvaluationTest ; ←
14:11:11 <LeeF> mf:name "Subquery within graph pattern" ;
Lee Feigenbaum: mf:name "Subquery within graph pattern" ; ←
14:11:11 <LeeF> dawgt:approval dawgt:NotClassified ;
Lee Feigenbaum: dawgt:approval dawgt:NotClassified ; ←
14:11:11 <LeeF> mf:action
Lee Feigenbaum: mf:action ←
14:11:11 <LeeF> [ qt:query <sq01.rq> ;
Lee Feigenbaum: [ qt:query <sq01.rq> ; ←
14:11:12 <LeeF> qt:graphData <sq01.rdf> ] ;
Lee Feigenbaum: qt:graphData <sq01.rdf> ] ; ←
14:11:14 <LeeF> mf:result <sq01.srx>
Lee Feigenbaum: mf:result <sq01.srx> ←
14:11:16 <LeeF> .
Lee Feigenbaum: . ←
14:11:18 <AlexPassant> ... manifest file, walk through the first one
... manifest file, walk through the first one ←
14:11:21 <AlexPassant> ... query evaluation test
... query evaluation test ←
14:11:45 <AlexPassant> ... predicate for approval
... predicate for approval ←
14:11:51 <kasei> in the future, can I suggest indenting the query source and results xml? makes reading them much easier (at least for me)
Gregory Williams: in the future, can I suggest indenting the query source and results xml? makes reading them much easier (at least for me) ←
14:11:58 <AlexPassant> ... result as an XML file
... result as an XML file ←
14:12:05 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq01.rdf
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq01.rdf ←
14:12:52 <LeeF> 'rdf:resource=""'
Lee Feigenbaum: 'rdf:resource=""' ←
14:12:59 <kasei> :c :p <sq01.rdf>
Gregory Williams: :c :p <sq01.rdf> ←
14:13:07 <chimezie> empty URI reference
Chimezie Ogbuji: empty URI reference ←
14:13:09 <ivan> same as <> in turtle
Ivan Herman: same as <> in turtle ←
14:13:10 <AndyS> Base URI
Andy Seaborne: Base URI ←
14:13:19 <LeeF> prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#> ←
14:13:19 <LeeF> prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#> ←
14:13:19 <LeeF> select ?x ?p where {
Lee Feigenbaum: select ?x ?p where { ←
14:13:19 <LeeF> graph ?g {
Lee Feigenbaum: graph ?g { ←
14:13:19 <LeeF> {select * where {?x ?p ?y}}
Lee Feigenbaum: {select * where {?x ?p ?y}} ←
14:13:20 <LeeF> }
Lee Feigenbaum: } ←
14:13:22 <LeeF> }
Lee Feigenbaum: } ←
14:13:35 <AlexPassant> ... query with a graph clause
... query with a graph clause ←
14:13:56 <LeeF> expected results - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq01.srx
Lee Feigenbaum: expected results - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq01.srx ←
14:14:16 <AlexPassant> ... projecting the top level query
... projecting the top level query ←
14:14:34 <AlexPassant> ... get subject and predicate from the triples
... get subject and predicate from the triples ←
14:16:11 <LeeF> @prefix : <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest#> .
Lee Feigenbaum: @prefix : <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest#> . ←
14:16:25 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest# ←
14:16:31 <AlexPassant> ... current manifest should probably be updated
... current manifest should probably be updated ←
14:16:38 <SteveH_> yes, because the manifest has changed
Steve Harris: yes, because the manifest has changed ←
14:16:45 <AlexPassant> AndyS: agreed
Andy Seaborne: agreed ←
14:16:48 <SteveH_> manifest schema that is
Steve Harris: manifest schema that is ←
14:16:53 <AlexPassant> LeeF: update the prefix manifest
Lee Feigenbaum: update the prefix manifest ←
14:17:12 <AndyS> This is the URI of the test itself.
Andy Seaborne: This is the URI of the test itself. ←
14:17:38 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
14:17:47 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery01
PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery01 ←
14:18:31 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/subquery01
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/subquery01 ←
14:19:41 <AlexPassant> Souri: cannot see the refreshed version
Souripriya Das: cannot see the refreshed version ←
14:19:48 <AlexPassant> LeeF: mirrors are not always synced
Lee Feigenbaum: mirrors are not always synced ←
14:19:55 <AndyS> It has just refreshed for me (14:17)
Andy Seaborne: It has just refreshed for me (14:17) ←
14:20:00 <AlexPassant> ... may need several refreshs
... may need several refreshs ←
14:20:34 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery01
RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery01 ←
14:20:36 <pgearon> abstain. I came in too late
Paul Gearon: abstain. I came in too late ←
14:21:01 <AlexPassant> ... 2nd TC
... 2nd TC ←
14:21:09 <AlexPassant> ... same dataset but different query
... same dataset but different query ←
14:21:19 <LeeF> prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#> ←
14:21:19 <LeeF> prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#> ←
14:21:19 <LeeF> select ?x ?p where {
Lee Feigenbaum: select ?x ?p where { ←
14:21:19 <LeeF> graph ?g {
Lee Feigenbaum: graph ?g { ←
14:21:19 <LeeF> {select * where {?x ?p ?g}}
Lee Feigenbaum: {select * where {?x ?p ?g}} ←
14:21:20 <LeeF> }
Lee Feigenbaum: } ←
14:21:22 <LeeF> }
Lee Feigenbaum: } ←
14:21:37 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq02.srx
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq02.srx ←
14:22:03 <AlexPassant> ... query nested in a graph clause
... query nested in a graph clause ←
14:22:30 <SteveH_> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:22:33 <AlexPassant> ... looks ok to LeeF
... looks ok to LeeF ←
14:22:35 <LeeF> ack SteveH_
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH_ ←
14:23:42 <AlexPassant> SteveH_: question about the status of abstain
Steve Harris: question about the status of abstain ←
14:24:53 <AlexPassant> LeeF: do not like to approve tasks that no one executed
Lee Feigenbaum: do not like to approve tasks that no one executed ←
14:25:04 <AlexPassant> ... may delay some tasks
... may delay some tasks ←
14:25:54 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery02
PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery02 ←
14:26:01 <SteveH_> abstain
Steve Harris: abstain ←
14:26:01 <AndyS> seconded
Andy Seaborne: seconded ←
14:26:12 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery02
RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery02 ←
14:26:59 <AndyS> I now agree with test 3.
Andy Seaborne: I now agree with test 3. ←
14:27:35 <AlexPassant> ... TC3, same data
... TC3, same data ←
14:27:47 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq03.rq
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq03.rq ←
14:27:53 <AlexPassant> ... different use case of ?g from the previous one
... different use case of ?g from the previous one ←
14:27:59 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq03.srx
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/sq03.srx ←
14:28:01 <AlexPassant> ... expected results: 2 bindings
... expected results: 2 bindings ←
14:28:26 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery03
PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery03 ←
14:28:53 <LeeF> 'rdf:resource="'
Lee Feigenbaum: 'rdf:resource="' ←
14:28:55 <LeeF> 'rdf:resource=""'
Lee Feigenbaum: 'rdf:resource=""' ←
14:28:55 <AlexPassant> Souri: where do we have the graph name ?
Souripriya Das: where do we have the graph name ? ←
14:29:03 <AlexPassant> LeeF: rdf:resource="" refers to the base URI
Lee Feigenbaum: rdf:resource="" refers to the base URI ←
14:29:10 <AlexPassant> ... which is also the graph name in the manifest
... which is also the graph name in the manifest ←
14:29:20 <LeeF> graph name is object of qt:graphData preficate
Lee Feigenbaum: graph name is object of qt:graphData preficate ←
14:29:42 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:29:42 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←
14:29:43 <chimezie> q+
Chimezie Ogbuji: q+ ←
14:29:56 <LeeF> ack chimezie
Lee Feigenbaum: ack chimezie ←
14:30:11 <AlexPassant> chimezie: follow-up, graph name allocated in the manifest is the baseURI of the source file ?
Chimezie Ogbuji: follow-up, graph name allocated in the manifest is the baseURI of the source file ? ←
14:30:18 <AlexPassant> AndyS: no that's where you read the file from
Andy Seaborne: no that's where you read the file from ←
14:30:33 <AlexPassant> ... you cant have a name in one place and the data in another
... you cant have a name in one place and the data in another ←
14:31:31 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:31:31 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←
14:31:50 <AlexPassant> LeeF: graph name is given in the manifest
Lee Feigenbaum: graph name is given in the manifest ←
14:32:44 <AlexPassant> ... named graph in the RDF dataset are defined by qt:graphData predicate
... named graph in the RDF dataset are defined by qt:graphData predicate ←
14:33:54 <LeeF> 'rdf:resource=""'
Lee Feigenbaum: 'rdf:resource=""' ←
14:34:40 <SteveH_> abstain
Steve Harris: abstain ←
14:34:47 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery03
RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery03 ←
14:34:51 <AndyS> seconded
Andy Seaborne: seconded ←
14:36:02 <kasei> sq04.rq uses a FROM uri that doesn't exist (?)
Gregory Williams: sq04.rq uses a FROM uri that doesn't exist (?) ←
14:36:03 <LeeF> test 4 defines a named graph qt:graphData <sq01.rdf>
Lee Feigenbaum: test 4 defines a named graph qt:graphData <sq01.rdf> ←
14:36:09 <AlexPassant> LeeF: Test 4, defines a named graph
Lee Feigenbaum: Test 4, defines a named graph ←
14:36:18 <LeeF> in the query it uses FROM from <sq04.rdf>
Lee Feigenbaum: in the query it uses FROM from <sq04.rdf> ←
14:36:27 <AlexPassant> ... uses FROM in the query
... uses FROM in the query ←
14:36:30 <LeeF> Olivier's email - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0014.html
Lee Feigenbaum: Olivier's email - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0014.html ←
14:36:40 <AlexPassant> ... understanding from OlivierCorby email is to show that inside the graph clause
... understanding from OlivierCorby email is to show that inside the graph clause ←
14:37:00 <AlexPassant> ... the subquery is only matching against the main graph of the dataset
... the subquery is only matching against the main graph of the dataset ←
14:37:29 <AlexPassant> ... if we include a graph both in the manifest and the query
... if we include a graph both in the manifest and the query ←
14:37:36 <AlexPassant> ... the dataset is not a union of both
... the dataset is not a union of both ←
14:39:39 <AlexPassant> LeeF: if we want to show that the FROM does not apply, maybe it should be an empty graph
Lee Feigenbaum: if we want to show that the FROM does not apply, maybe it should be an empty graph ←
14:39:48 <AlexPassant> OlivierCorby: better to use a graph that exists for the FROM ?
Olivier Corby: better to use a graph that exists for the FROM ? ←
14:39:51 <AlexPassant> LeeF: probably
Lee Feigenbaum: probably ←
14:40:19 <AndyS> [ qt:query <sq04.rq> ; qt:data <anything_different_but_exists> ; qt:graphData <sq01.rdf> ]
Andy Seaborne: [ qt:query <sq04.rq> ; qt:data <anything_different_but_exists> ; qt:graphData <sq01.rdf> ] ←
14:43:07 <AlexPassant> LeeF: maniest updated in CVS
Lee Feigenbaum: maniest updated in CVS ←
14:44:11 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery04
PROPOSED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery04 ←
14:44:20 <SteveH_> abstain
Steve Harris: abstain ←
14:44:38 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery04
RESOLVED: Approve test http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/subquery/manifest#subquery04 ←
14:45:47 <AndyS> Test 8 comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0021.html
Andy Seaborne: Test 8 comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0021.html ←
14:46:16 <AlexPassant> LeeF: test8, inner select
Lee Feigenbaum: test8, inner select ←
14:46:42 <LeeF> prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix ex: <http://www.example.org/schema#> ←
14:46:42 <LeeF> prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#>
Lee Feigenbaum: prefix in: <http://www.example.org/instance#> ←
14:46:42 <LeeF> select ?x ?max where {
Lee Feigenbaum: select ?x ?max where { ←
14:46:42 <LeeF> {select max(?y) as ?max where {?x ex:p ?y} }
Lee Feigenbaum: {select max(?y) as ?max where {?x ex:p ?y} } ←
14:46:42 <LeeF> ?x ex:p ?max
Lee Feigenbaum: ?x ex:p ?max ←
14:46:43 <LeeF> }
Lee Feigenbaum: } ←
14:46:44 <AlexPassant> OlivierCorby: corrected query 8
Olivier Corby: corrected query 8 ←
14:46:48 <AlexPassant> ... problem with variable ?x
... problem with variable ?x ←
14:49:40 <mperry> How is no group by not a problem?
Matthew Perry: How is no group by not a problem? ←
14:50:11 <mperry> ok
Matthew Perry: ok ←
14:50:46 <AlexPassant> LeeF: will fix everything in CVS with AndyS and OlivierCorby
Lee Feigenbaum: will fix everything in CVS with AndyS and OlivierCorby ←
14:51:42 <AlexPassant> ... dont want to go through all TC now
... dont want to go through all TC now ←
14:51:46 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:51:46 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted
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14:51:55 <chimezie> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0005.html
Chimezie Ogbuji: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0005.html ←
14:52:25 <AlexPassant> chimezie: using MINUS the girht hand side does not have access to the variables from the left ?
Chimezie Ogbuji: using MINUS the girht hand side does not have access to the variables from the left ? ←
14:52:30 <AlexPassant> LeeF: yes
Lee Feigenbaum: yes ←
14:52:34 <AlexPassant> s/girht/right
s/girht/right ←
14:52:45 <AlexPassant> ... will fix in CVS before the next TC
... will fix in CVS before the next TC ←
14:52:59 <kasei> I'm mostly able to run them.
Gregory Williams: I'm mostly able to run them. ←
14:53:08 <AlexPassant> ... anyone able to run the tasks ?
... anyone able to run the tasks ? ←
14:53:13 <pgearon> I can run a lot of them, but not the update tests
Paul Gearon: I can run a lot of them, but not the update tests ←
14:53:14 <kasei> might take some coaxing, but close...
Gregory Williams: might take some coaxing, but close... ←
14:53:17 <AndyS> I'm not able to run update tests yet.
Andy Seaborne: I'm not able to run update tests yet. ←
14:53:19 <chimezie> the only implentation contribution to the test process i will be able to give will be with SPARQL entailment probably
Chimezie Ogbuji: the only implentation contribution to the test process i will be able to give will be with SPARQL entailment probably ←
14:53:28 <pgearon> but I don't have much of SPARQL 1.1 implemented
Paul Gearon: but I don't have much of SPARQL 1.1 implemented ←
14:53:40 <AlexPassant> ... want to start gathering the UDPATE tasks
... want to start gathering the UDPATE tasks ←
14:54:17 <LeeF> topic: reset operation in Update?
14:55:46 <AlexPassant> question is should DROP ALL include only named graphs or also the default one
question is should DROP ALL include only named graphs or also the default one ←
14:56:40 <pgearon> I wouldn't mind knowing what people would prefer
Paul Gearon: I wouldn't mind knowing what people would prefer ←
14:57:33 <mperry> I would say drop everything named and default
Matthew Perry: I would say drop everything named and default ←
14:57:55 <chimezie> if there is already a way to specifically drop the default graph, I would prefer DROP ALL only deletes named graphs
Chimezie Ogbuji: if there is already a way to specifically drop the default graph, I would prefer DROP ALL only deletes named graphs ←
14:58:13 <AlexPassant> what about DROP NAMED ?
what about DROP NAMED ? ←
14:58:45 <LeeF> DROP DEFAULT / DROP NAMED / DROP ALL seems reasonably elegant
Lee Feigenbaum: DROP DEFAULT / DROP NAMED / DROP ALL seems reasonably elegant ←
14:58:46 <AlexPassant> DROP DEFAULT / DROP NAMED / DROP ALL ?
DROP DEFAULT / DROP NAMED / DROP ALL ? ←
15:00:19 <AlexPassant> Ill followup with these 3 options on the list
Ill followup with these 3 options on the list ←
15:00:37 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
15:00:37 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
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15:00:39 <Zakim> -Ivan
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15:00:40 <Zakim> -chimezie
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15:00:41 <bglimm> bye
Birte Glimm: bye ←
15:00:44 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
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15:00:46 <Zakim> -bglimm
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15:00:48 <Zakim> -pgearon
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15:00:52 <Zakim> -mperry
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15:01:04 <LeeF> action-266?
15:01:04 <trackbot> ACTION-266 -- Gregory Williams to write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options -- due 2010-07-06 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-266 -- Gregory Williams to write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options -- due 2010-07-06 -- OPEN ←
15:01:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/266
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15:01:08 <Zakim> -SteveH_
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15:01:12 <LeeF> trackbot, close action-266
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-266 ←
15:01:12 <trackbot> ACTION-266 Write a mail to the list on the issue of DS-1 and what are the options closed
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15:01:22 <LeeF> action-251?
15:01:22 <trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Gregory Williams to send test cases for 0-length paths to mailing list -- due 2010-06-03 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-251 -- Gregory Williams to send test cases for 0-length paths to mailing list -- due 2010-06-03 -- OPEN ←
15:01:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/251
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15:01:23 <Zakim> -Souri
Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri ←
15:01:32 <Zakim> -AndyS
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15:01:35 <AlexPassant> RRSAgent: make minutes
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15:01:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/13-sparql-minutes.html AlexPassant
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15:01:40 <SteveH_> ther's a lot of delay in zakim
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15:01:44 <Zakim> -kasei
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15:01:48 <LeeF> trackbot, close action-251
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-251 ←
15:01:48 <trackbot> ACTION-251 Send test cases for 0-length paths to mailing list closed
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15:01:50 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby
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15:02:05 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum
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15:02:07 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
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15:02:08 <Zakim> Attendees were bglimm, kasei, +33.4.92.38.aabb, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, +44.208.439.aadd, mperry, +1.603.897.aaee, SteveH_, Souri,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were bglimm, kasei, +33.4.92.38.aabb, OlivierCorby, Ivan, AlexPassant, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, +44.208.439.aadd, mperry, +1.603.897.aaee, SteveH_, Souri, ←
15:02:10 <Zakim> ... chimezie, pgearon
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15:03:27 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs public
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