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13:54:51 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, this will be sparql
Axel Polleres: Zakim, this will be sparql ←
13:54:51 <Zakim> ok, AxelPolleres, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AxelPolleres, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM already started ←
13:55:03 <AndyS> bglimm, APIs may let you build queries in other ways.
Andy Seaborne: bglimm, APIs may let you build queries in other ways. ←
13:55:30 <kasei> bglimm, early
Gregory Williams: bglimm, early ←
13:55:39 <bglimm> ah, ok, but I don't care about that ;-) I only care about what the spec says
Birte Glimm: ah, ok, but I don't care about that ;-) I only care about what the spec says ←
13:56:24 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-05-25
13:56:29 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
13:56:39 <NicholasHumfrey> zakim, who's muted?
Nicholas Humfrey: zakim, who's muted? ←
13:56:39 <Zakim> I see NickHumfrey muted
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13:56:56 <AxelPolleres> regrets: Sandro, chime
13:57:09 <Zakim> + +86528aaaa
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13:57:11 <AxelPolleres> at risk: Alex, Paul
Axel Polleres: at risk: Alex, Paul ←
13:57:18 <bglimm> Zakim, +86528aaaa is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, +86528aaaa is me ←
13:57:18 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
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13:57:26 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
13:57:26 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
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13:58:12 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres
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13:58:22 <Zakim> +pgearon
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13:58:28 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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13:58:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickHumfrey (muted), AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickHumfrey (muted), AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon ←
13:58:39 <AxelPolleres> welcome, Nick!
Axel Polleres: welcome, Nick! ←
13:59:01 <Zakim> +kasei
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13:59:13 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
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13:59:13 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
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14:00:04 <Zakim> +MattPerry
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14:00:27 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickHumfrey, AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon, kasei (muted), MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickHumfrey, AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon, kasei (muted), MattPerry ←
14:00:33 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby
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14:00:41 <Zakim> +dcharbon2
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14:01:19 <Zakim> +mischat
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14:01:29 <SteveH> Zakim, mischat is [Garlik]
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14:01:29 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it
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14:01:38 <SteveH> Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily SteveH
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14:01:38 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
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14:01:43 <AndyS> I can scribe.
Andy Seaborne: I can scribe. ←
14:02:06 <AndyS> but I'll let Steve if he wants to :-)
Andy Seaborne: but I'll let Steve if he wants to :-) ←
14:02:14 <AndyS> scribe: Andy Seaborne
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
14:02:20 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
14:02:21 <AxelPolleres> scribe: AndyS
14:02:37 <Zakim> +souri
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14:02:43 <AxelPolleres> scribe next tim sandro
Axel Polleres: scribe next tim sandro ←
14:02:50 <AndyS> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-05-25
14:03:01 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see NicholasHumfrey, AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon, kasei (muted), MattPerry, OlivierCorby, dcharbon2, SteveH, souri
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NicholasHumfrey, AndyS, Ivan, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, pgearon, kasei (muted), MattPerry, OlivierCorby, dcharbon2, SteveH, souri ←
14:03:05 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:03:07 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-18
PROPOSED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-18 ←
14:03:22 <AndyS> Regrets: chimezie, sandro, alex
14:03:41 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-18
RESOLVED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-18 ←
14:03:56 <AndyS> Next meeting: 1 June
Next meeting: 1 June ←
14:03:41 <AxelPolleres> Who's gonna be at SemTech?
Axel Polleres: Who's gonna be at SemTech? ←
14:04:08 <ivan> me
Ivan Herman: me ←
14:04:08 <pgearon> I'll be there
Paul Gearon: I'll be there ←
14:04:10 <LeeF> me
Lee Feigenbaum: me ←
14:04:11 <MattPerry> I will be there
Matthew Perry: I will be there ←
14:04:12 <SteveH> I'm not going
Steve Harris: I'm not going ←
14:04:16 <AndyS> Regrets for next time: AndyS (unless it's raining a lot)
Regrets for next time: AndyS (unless it's raining a lot) ←
14:04:16 <LeeF> Would like to know who can make the panel, in particular
Lee Feigenbaum: Would like to know who can make the panel, in particular ←
14:04:23 <souri> me too
Souripriya Das: me too ←
14:04:23 <bglimm> I'm not going
Birte Glimm: I'm not going ←
14:04:24 <AndyS> AndyS @semtech
AndyS @semtech ←
14:04:24 <AxelPolleres> me unfotrunately not going
Axel Polleres: me unfotrunately not going ←
14:05:24 <LeeF> 2pm on Wednesday
Lee Feigenbaum: 2pm on Wednesday ←
14:05:31 <AxelPolleres> must be somewhere tthere: http://www.semantic-conference.com/2010/
Axel Polleres: must be somewhere tthere: http://www.semantic-conference.com/2010/ ←
14:05:36 <LeeF> Right now it says:
Lee Feigenbaum: Right now it says: ←
14:05:37 <LeeF> Lee Feigenbaum, Cambridge Semantics Inc
Lee Feigenbaum: Lee Feigenbaum, Cambridge Semantics Inc ←
14:05:37 <LeeF> Andy Seaborne, Talis
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy Seaborne, Talis ←
14:05:37 <LeeF> David S. Newman, Wells Fargo
Lee Feigenbaum: David S. Newman, Wells Fargo ←
14:05:37 <LeeF> Ivan Herman, World Wide Web Consortium
Lee Feigenbaum: Ivan Herman, World Wide Web Consortium ←
14:05:37 <LeeF> Paul Gearon, Fedora Commons, Inc
Lee Feigenbaum: Paul Gearon, Fedora Commons, Inc ←
14:05:47 <LeeF> I'll check with David, who hasn't participated in a while
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll check with David, who hasn't participated in a while ←
14:06:10 <LeeF> I'll add Souri & Matt if you'd like to join the panel?
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll add Souri & Matt if you'd like to join the panel? ←
14:06:30 <MattPerry> Sure. Thanks Lee
Matthew Perry: Sure. Thanks Lee ←
14:06:31 <souri> sure
Souripriya Das: sure ←
14:06:37 <LeeF> thanks
Lee Feigenbaum: thanks ←
14:06:53 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:07:21 <AxelPolleres> topic: liaisons
14:07:57 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/use-cases/
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/use-cases/ ←
14:08:05 <AxelPolleres> RDB2RDF docs probably next week published
Axel Polleres: RDB2RDF docs probably next week published ←
14:08:35 <AndyS> Topic:Publishing documents
14:09:02 <LeeF> I'll let people know if I need anything from them
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll let people know if I need anything from them ←
14:09:03 <AndyS> LeeF: working on publishing docs
Lee Feigenbaum: working on publishing docs ←
14:09:08 <LeeF> ack me
Lee Feigenbaum: ack me ←
14:09:40 <bglimm> We also didn't decide on the entailments doc yet if I remeber correctly
Birte Glimm: We also didn't decide on the entailments doc yet if I remeber correctly ←
14:09:42 <AndyS> LeeF: need to resolve to publish the update doc as there have been changes
Lee Feigenbaum: need to resolve to publish the update doc as there have been changes ←
14:09:57 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:09:58 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:10:05 <AndyS> s/update doc/update language doc/
s/update doc/update language doc/ ←
14:10:14 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:10:14 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:10:35 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Update as a Working Draft
PROPOSED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Update as a Working Draft ←
14:10:45 <LeeF> Seconded
Lee Feigenbaum: Seconded ←
14:10:46 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:10:46 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:10:47 <ivan> 1
Ivan Herman: 1 ←
14:10:53 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:10:53 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:10:54 <OlivierCorby> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:10:59 <AndyS> +1
+1 ←
14:11:13 <NicholasHumfrey> +1
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 ←
14:11:31 <pgearon> SPARQL 1.1 Update Revision 1.47
Paul Gearon: SPARQL 1.1 Update Revision 1.47 ←
14:11:33 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Update as a Working Draft
RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Update as a Working Draft ←
14:11:46 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:11:46 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:11:49 <AndyS> Entailment doc.
Entailment doc. ←
14:12:07 <AndyS> bglimm: some changes this week, ready to go
Birte Glimm: some changes this week, ready to go ←
14:12:10 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:12:10 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:12:10 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Entailment as a Working Draft
PROPOSED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Entailment as a Working Draft ←
14:12:14 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:12:18 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:12:19 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:12:21 <OlivierCorby> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:12:22 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:12:24 <NicholasHumfrey> +1
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 ←
14:12:26 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:12:31 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:12:39 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Entailment as a Working Draft
RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Entailment as a Working Draft ←
14:13:58 <AndyS> Topic: More Admin
14:14:20 <AndyS> AxelPolleres: Welcome to Nick Humfrey of the BBC
Axel Polleres: Welcome to Nick Humfrey of the BBC ←
14:14:49 <AndyS> NicholasHumfrey: music, /progammes, DBPedia.
Nicholas Humfrey: music, /progammes, DBPedia. ←
14:15:15 <AndyS> ... here to see what the WG is up and how it would fit in the BBC.
... here to see what the WG is up and how it would fit in the BBC. ←
14:15:37 <AndyS> Topic: Lee's Initial Issues List
14:15:41 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0166.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0166.html ←
14:16:21 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries. ←
14:16:35 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:16:41 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/8
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/8 ←
14:17:36 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:17:44 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:17:46 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:17:46 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:17:46 <AndyS> +1
+1 ←
14:17:47 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:17:52 <OlivierCorby> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:18:00 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:18:02 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries.
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries. ←
14:18:12 <LeeF> trackbot, close ISSUE-8
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ISSUE-8 ←
14:18:12 <trackbot> ISSUE-8 What determines the RDF dataset for subqueries? closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-8 What determines the RDF dataset for subqueries? closed ←
14:18:29 <LeeF> ISSUE-8 : RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries.
Lee Feigenbaum: ISSUE-8 : RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-8 with the consensus that subqueries share the same RDF dataset as their parent query, and that FROM and FROM NAMED clauses are not permitted in subqueries. ←
14:18:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-8 What determines the RDF dataset for subqueries? notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-8 What determines the RDF dataset for subqueries? notes added ←
14:18:44 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE. ←
14:19:00 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:19:01 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:19:04 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:19:05 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:19:08 <OlivierCorby> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:19:10 <dcharbon2> +1
David Charboneau: +1 ←
14:19:12 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:19:13 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:19:17 <ivan> 1
Ivan Herman: 1 ←
14:19:20 <AndyS> (and custom aggregates)
(and custom aggregates) ←
14:19:24 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:19:56 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE ←
14:20:04 <LeeF> ISSUE-14 : RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE
Lee Feigenbaum: ISSUE-14 : RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-14 with the consensus that SPARQL 1.1 defines the following aggregates: COUNT, SUM, MIN, MAX, AVG, GROUP_CONCAT, and SAMPLE ←
14:20:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 Which aggregates to include notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-14 Which aggregates to include notes added ←
14:20:08 <LeeF> trackbot, close ISSUE-14
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ISSUE-14 ←
14:20:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 Which aggregates to include closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-14 Which aggregates to include closed ←
14:21:01 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/1
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/1 ←
14:22:02 <AxelPolleres> ISSUE-15 -- I think we have consensus here around custom aggregate
Axel Polleres: ISSUE-15 -- I think we have consensus here around custom aggregate ←
14:22:03 <AxelPolleres> snamed with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and
Axel Polleres: snamed with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and ←
14:22:03 <AxelPolleres> allowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT, but I'm
Axel Polleres: allowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT, but I'm ←
14:22:03 <AxelPolleres> not positve and don't see this spelled out yet in the editor's draft, so
Axel Polleres: not positve and don't see this spelled out yet in the editor's draft, so ←
14:22:03 <AxelPolleres> didn't want to propose to resolve the issue yet.
Axel Polleres: didn't want to propose to resolve the issue yet. ←
14:22:35 <AndyS> q+
q+ ←
14:22:54 <kasei> I think that was Nicholas when he joined the call.
Gregory Williams: I think that was Nicholas when he joined the call. ←
14:22:59 <AxelPolleres> ack AndyS
Axel Polleres: ack AndyS ←
14:23:41 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:23:45 <LeeF> ack ??P0
Lee Feigenbaum: ack ??P0 ←
14:24:29 <NicholasHumfrey> queue-
Nicholas Humfrey: queue- ←
14:24:35 <AxelPolleres> AndyS: rather would go for simple spolution not allowing parameterised syntax in custom aggregates
Andy Seaborne: rather would go for simple spolution not allowing parameterised syntax in custom aggregates [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:24:44 <NicholasHumfrey> queue- ?P0
Nicholas Humfrey: queue- ?P0 ←
14:24:44 <AxelPolleres> ack SteveH
Axel Polleres: ack SteveH ←
14:25:09 <AxelPolleres> SteveH: seconded what Steve said
Steve Harris: seconded what Steve said [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:25:10 <SteveH> loud typing noise
Steve Harris: loud typing noise ←
14:25:11 <AndyS> SteveH: agree - complexity is not justified
Steve Harris: agree - complexity is not justified ←
14:25:18 <NicholasHumfrey> arg - sorry. Yes, P0 was me. Trying to learn all this!
Nicholas Humfrey: arg - sorry. Yes, P0 was me. Trying to learn all this! ←
14:25:36 <LeeF> not me!
Lee Feigenbaum: not me! ←
14:26:00 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: prohibit parameterised syntax for custom aggregates?
STRAWPOLL: prohibit parameterised syntax for custom aggregates? ←
14:26:07 <kasei> 0
14:26:09 <AndyS> AxelPolleres: anyone in favour of named parameters to custom aggregates?
Axel Polleres: anyone in favour of named parameters to custom aggregates? ←
14:26:13 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:26:20 <AndyS> prohibit
prohibit ←
14:26:23 <OlivierCorby> 0
Olivier Corby: 0 ←
14:26:25 <pgearon> prohibit
Paul Gearon: prohibit ←
14:26:29 <SteveH> prohibit
Steve Harris: prohibit ←
14:26:31 <MattPerry> prohibit
Matthew Perry: prohibit ←
14:26:36 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:26:37 <NicholasHumfrey> prohibit
Nicholas Humfrey: prohibit ←
14:26:38 <souri> prohibit
Souripriya Das: prohibit ←
14:26:40 <bglimm> prohibit
Birte Glimm: prohibit ←
14:28:16 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: close ISSUE-15 with consensus around custom aggregates named with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and disallowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT for custom aggregates
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-15 with consensus around custom aggregates named with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and disallowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT for custom aggregates ←
14:28:34 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:28:38 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:28:43 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:28:46 <AndyS> +1
+1 ←
14:28:50 <OlivierCorby> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:28:55 <NicholasHumfrey> +1
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 ←
14:28:56 <dcharbon2> +1
David Charboneau: +1 ←
14:28:57 <souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
14:28:59 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:29:17 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-15 with consensus around custom aggregates named with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and disallowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT for custom aggregates
RESOLVED: close ISSUE-15 with consensus around custom aggregates named with URIs, with no keywords, allowing the DISTINCT modifier, and disallowing the parameterized syntax introduced for GROUP_CONCAT for custom aggregates ←
14:29:27 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, close ISSUE-15
Axel Polleres: trackbot, close ISSUE-15 ←
14:29:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-15 Extensibility of aggregate functions closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-15 Extensibility of aggregate functions closed ←
14:30:03 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/16
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/16 ←
14:30:04 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/16 : Dealing with aggregates over mixed datatypes
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/16 : Dealing with aggregates over mixed datatypes ←
14:31:44 <kasei> so what is the current status right now?
Gregory Williams: so what is the current status right now? ←
14:31:50 <kasei> undefined over mixed datatypes?
Gregory Williams: undefined over mixed datatypes? ←
14:32:11 <LeeF> I want to close this, but I would like to understand what's in the document currently, too
Lee Feigenbaum: I want to close this, but I would like to understand what's in the document currently, too ←
14:33:09 <SteveH> +1 to AndyS
Steve Harris: +1 to AndyS ←
14:33:12 <AxelPolleres> may be safer to keep the issue open until steve went over the last f2f resolutions with scrutinity
Axel Polleres: may be safer to keep the issue open until steve went over the last f2f resolutions with scrutinity ←
14:33:31 <AndyS> AndyS: will want to discuss presentation of design *after* the next publication.
Andy Seaborne: will want to discuss presentation of design *after* the next publication. ←
14:34:18 <AndyS> LeeF: Next step is what?
Lee Feigenbaum: Next step is what? ←
14:34:29 <AndyS> SteveH: examples to add
Steve Harris: examples to add ←
14:35:22 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: steveh to give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16
ACTION: steveh to give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 ←
14:35:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-247 - Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 [on Steve Harris - due 2010-06-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-247 - Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 [on Steve Harris - due 2010-06-01]. ←
14:36:01 <AndyS> Topic: Issues and Scedule
14:36:08 <AndyS> Topic: Issues and Schedule
14:36:24 <AndyS> Property path telecon on Thursday
Property path telecon on Thursday ←
14:37:03 <AndyS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0243.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0243.html ←
14:37:16 <LeeF> I need to reserve zakim
Lee Feigenbaum: I need to reserve zakim ←
14:37:21 <LeeF> ivan, can you help with that?
Lee Feigenbaum: ivan, can you help with that? ←
14:37:28 <AndyS> scheduled at 10:00am EDT / 15:00 GMTDT for up to 2 hours
scheduled at 10:00am EDT / 15:00 GMTDT for up to 2 hours ←
14:37:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: leef to reserve zakim for property path TC
ACTION: leef to reserve zakim for property path TC ←
14:37:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-248 - Reserve zakim for property path TC [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-06-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-248 - Reserve zakim for property path TC [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-06-01]. ←
14:37:43 <ivan> you can do it ad hoc, but I can also send a request if you want
Ivan Herman: you can do it ad hoc, but I can also send a request if you want ←
14:37:43 <AndyS> Can we just use this channel?
Can we just use this channel? ←
14:37:57 <LeeF> yes, let's use #sparql like normal
Lee Feigenbaum: yes, let's use #sparql like normal ←
14:38:14 <ivan> '' /invite zakim; zakim, space for 10? "
Ivan Herman: '' /invite zakim; zakim, space for 10? " ←
14:39:10 <AxelPolleres> + "/invite rrsagent"
Axel Polleres: + "/invite rrsagent" ←
14:40:24 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs
ACTION: axel to check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs ←
14:40:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-249 - Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-06-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-249 - Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-06-01]. ←
14:41:20 <AxelPolleres> topic: http-update-protocol issue
14:41:23 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0238.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0238.html ←
14:41:27 <AndyS> Topic: discussion on http-update-protocol.
14:41:44 <AndyS> AxelPolleres: issue is base URI in updates
Axel Polleres: issue is base URI in updates ←
14:42:28 <AxelPolleres> "In situations where there is no Base URI in the payload and a graph IRI is
Axel Polleres: "In situations where there is no Base URI in the payload and a graph IRI is ←
14:42:28 <AxelPolleres> embedded, the RDF document that represents [AWWW] the networked RDF
Axel Polleres: embedded, the RDF document that represents [AWWW] the networked RDF ←
14:42:28 <AxelPolleres> knowledge identified by the embedded graph IRI SHOULD be considered the
Axel Polleres: knowledge identified by the embedded graph IRI SHOULD be considered the ←
14:42:28 <AxelPolleres> retrieval context (5.1.2) [RFC3986]. Thus, the default base URI is the base
Axel Polleres: retrieval context (5.1.2) [RFC3986]. Thus, the default base URI is the base ←
14:42:29 <AxelPolleres> URI of that RDF document."
Axel Polleres: URI of that RDF document." ←
14:43:10 <AndyS> I would need examples to understand that.
I would need examples to understand that. ←
14:43:15 <SteveH> me too
Steve Harris: me too ←
14:44:29 <pgearon> +q
Paul Gearon: +q ←
14:44:42 <pgearon> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/37
Paul Gearon: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/37 ←
14:44:46 <AndyS> pgearon: Issue 37
14:45:02 <AndyS> Issue 37 : How does basic federated query interact with SPARQL/Update?
ISSUE-37 : How does basic federated query interact with SPARQL/Update? ←
14:45:03 <AxelPolleres> "How does basic federated query interact with SPARQL/Update?"
Axel Polleres: "How does basic federated query interact with SPARQL/Update?" ←
14:45:39 <pgearon> "SPARQL/Update allows the use of SERVICE in the WHERE clause"
Paul Gearon: "SPARQL/Update allows the use of SERVICE in the WHERE clause" ←
14:45:48 <SteveH> typing noise
Steve Harris: typing noise ←
14:45:49 <AndyS> pgearon: can allow in the graph pattern, but should not also do federated change
Paul Gearon: can allow in the graph pattern, but should not also do federated change ←
14:46:22 <AndyS> Fine in intent.
Fine in intent. ←
14:46:29 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:46:33 <AndyS> But not in DELETE WHERE please :-)
But not in DELETE WHERE please :-) ←
14:46:36 <pgearon> q-
Paul Gearon: q- ←
14:48:22 <AndyS> SteveH: complicated case : update calls back to same service
Steve Harris: complicated case : update calls back to same service ←
14:49:29 <pgearon> +1 to allow everything in the WHERE clause that is allowed in SPARQL 1.1
Paul Gearon: +1 to allow everything in the WHERE clause that is allowed in SPARQL 1.1 ←
14:50:24 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: steveh to take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases
ACTION: steveh to take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases ←
14:50:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - Take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases [on Steve Harris - due 2010-06-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-250 - Take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases [on Steve Harris - due 2010-06-01]. ←
14:51:11 <AndyS> topic: Any other business?
14:51:26 <AndyS> Adjourned
Adjourned ←
14:51:32 <Zakim> -SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH ←
14:51:32 <bglimm> bye
Birte Glimm: bye ←
14:51:33 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
14:51:33 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
14:51:33 <Zakim> -dcharbon2
Zakim IRC Bot: -dcharbon2 ←
14:51:35 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
14:51:36 <MattPerry> bye
Matthew Perry: bye ←
14:51:37 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres ←
14:51:38 <Zakim> -souri
Zakim IRC Bot: -souri ←
14:51:40 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:51:41 <Zakim> -pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon ←
14:51:42 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby
Zakim IRC Bot: -OlivierCorby ←
14:51:43 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
14:51:47 <AndyS> Please remember the property path call on Thursday.
Please remember the property path call on Thursday. ←
14:51:47 <Zakim> -NicholasHumfrey
Zakim IRC Bot: -NicholasHumfrey ←
14:51:53 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
14:51:56 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: -Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:52:07 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
14:52:14 <AxelPolleres> andyS, minutes magic... u or me do it? :-)
Axel Polleres: andyS, minutes magic... u or me do it? :-) ←
14:57:19 <AndyS> I may not be able to do it until Thursday - travelling tomorrow and no way am I trying using 3G
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I may not be able to do it until Thursday - travelling tomorrow and no way am I trying using 3G ←
15:01:00 <LeeF> RRSAgent, pointer?
Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, pointer? ←
15:01:00 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/05/25-sparql-irc#T15-01-00
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2010/05/25-sparql-irc#T15-01-00 ←
15:03:13 <LeeF> pgearon_, AlexPassant -- I'm going to work on getting SPARQL 1.1 Update pubrlues compliant now -- is what's checked in OK to go?
Lee Feigenbaum: pgearon_, AlexPassant -- I'm going to work on getting SPARQL 1.1 Update pubrlues compliant now -- is what's checked in OK to go? ←
15:05:45 <AxelPolleres> no worries, will do the minutes
Axel Polleres: no worries, will do the minutes ←
15:06:26 <kasei> LeeF: should I remove the old SD doc diff paragraph and commit the new one in its place?
Lee Feigenbaum: should I remove the old SD doc diff paragraph and commit the new one in its place? [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Williams ] ←
15:07:11 <LeeF> yes, please
Lee Feigenbaum: yes, please ←
15:07:15 <kasei> also, (unrelated), my ACTION-235 can be closed.
Gregory Williams: also, (unrelated), my ACTION-235 can be closed. ←
15:10:20 <kasei> LeeF, ok, the new changes section is committed. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with the publication.
Gregory Williams: LeeF, ok, the new changes section is committed. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with the publication. ←
15:10:48 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, how to I get CommonScribe to recognise Nick?
Axel Polleres: hmmm, how to I get CommonScribe to recognise Nick? ←
15:13:05 <LeeF> i'm not sure, AxelPolleres - ask sandro
Lee Feigenbaum: i'm not sure, AxelPolleres - ask sandro ←
15:13:12 <LeeF> kasei, ok, I will when I get to the SD doc
Lee Feigenbaum: kasei, ok, I will when I get to the SD doc ←
15:13:14 <LeeF> thanks
Lee Feigenbaum: thanks ←
15:13:18 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-235
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-235 ←
15:13:18 <trackbot> ACTION-235 Review HTTP Uniform Protocol for Managing RDF Graphs closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-235 Review HTTP Uniform Protocol for Managing RDF Graphs closed ←
15:13:23 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-250
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-250 ←
15:13:23 <trackbot> ACTION-250 Take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-250 Take the discussion on SERVICE in Update to email, highlighting potential problem cases closed ←
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