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Agenda

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Actions

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URI specification

Mark: IBM IETF rep has confiormed that the trust200902 option is the one to go for
... But still waiting for legal approval from IBM

Eric: TIBCO Counsel commented that if there is any content which predates 2008/11 then we need to use the option that says "may include text developed under the older rules and thus this document is still using the older rules"
... TIBCO Counsel is still determining what the legal position is

Phil: Would this hold up the JMS Binding specification
... (If we don't have an RFC describing the JMS URI )

+Amy

Eric: We could possibly publish the URI as a W3C note, but that would be less than ideal
... ...or include in binding specification itself

Phil: There would be a danger that if we don't have an RFC someone else might come up with their own JMS URI scheme

Eric: Agree - there are many URI schemes which have not been registered with the IETF

Specification status

Eric We successfully transitioned to Candidate Rec

Eric: We have an outstanding action to update the FAQ
... Where would we keep that FAQ - currently on W3C Wiki

Action Eric to ask Yves what the best way to record / store the FAQ?

<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Ask Yves what the best way to record / store the FAQ? [on Eric Johnson - due 2009-06-16].

Testing

Eric: Nothing new here

Phil: We need to figure out our testing strategy
... What kind of testing do we need to do to satisfy the W3C requirements to move to full recommendation

Eric: Need two implementations of the specification, and need to be able to demonstrate that to W3C

Phil: WebSphere app. server has implemented parts of the spec., but does not support it all (not the WSDL section for example)
... IBM could develop tests which match the test cases, but what would we need to do to demonstrate this. Is it enough to just assert that a product passes these tests.

Eric: Need to ask Yves about this

Phil: Java EE has a compliance test suite - but obviously nothing so comprehensive here

8. Implementations

Eric: We have mentioned the WebSphere implementation. Plans for TIBCO implementation can't be disclosed

Phil: There is an Axis2 implementation - not sure if this is according to current (or even recent) version of the spec. Will check

<scribe> ACTION: Phil to Find out if Axis 2 has an implementation of the SOAP/JMS Binding spec. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-soap-jms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Find out if Axis 2 has an implementation of the SOAP/JMS Binding spec. [on Phil Adams - due 2009-06-16].

Mark: Axis2 would be an ideal place to make the test suite and test cases public

Eric: Glen was working in this area we should follow up with him to see if WSO2 are involved

Phil: I will check with IBM committers first

9. AOB

None

Next Meeting: Same time next week - we will attempt to get closure on the legal issues

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