IRC log of swd on 2009-06-02

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14:58:27 [TomB]
rrsagent, bookmark
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See http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-irc#T14-58-27
14:58:35 [TomB]
zakim, this will be swd
14:58:35 [Zakim]
ok, TomB, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0001.html
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scribenick: berrueta
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scribe: Diego
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-> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html previous minutes
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Meeting: SWD WG
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Chair: Tom
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rrsagent, please make record public
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+Ralph
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+Tom
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+Diego
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+Antoine
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-> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot ssome history of Zakim
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+Sean
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Hello Tom!
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+Clay
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+Ed
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topic: Admin
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PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon
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RESOLVED to accept minutes of the May 19 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html
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topic: SKOS
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ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
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--done
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0072.html Sean's message
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ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
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--continues
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ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]
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--done
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0000.html PR request
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** SKOS Primer
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TomB: status?
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Antoine: content is ready, nothing to change
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... only thing to change is the status section and the links
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Ralph: this version is intended to be a WD or a Note?
15:11:07 [berrueta]
TomB: last week we proposed to publish SKOS Primer as a Note at the time the final SKOS REC is published
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... we still have a couple of meetings before that
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** SKOS use cases
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TomB: there is a similar resolution for the SKOS UC
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... which is the status?
15:11:54 [Antoine]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html
15:12:03 [berrueta]
Antoine: exactly the same as the Primer from the process perspective
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** SKOS Implementation report
15:12:40 [edsu]
Clay++
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edsu++
15:13:00 [Ralph]
Three cheers for Clay and Ed
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TomB: congrats to edsu and Clay for the lcsh
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:me +1 :-)
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Antoine++
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TomB: any comments on how it was received? any discussion relevant to the WG?
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Clay: getting a lot of feedback on the UI
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... also on concept coordination
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edsu: I talked to ralph about the details of moving to new domain
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... right now URLs are redirecting permanently to the new ones
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Antoine++
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Clay: thank you also to Antoine
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[I'm not seeing http://id.loc.gov/authorities/ cited yet from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Congress_Subject_Headings ]
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s/talked to/would like to talk with
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ACTION: Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]
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--done
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SKOS Implementation report -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0070.html
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topic: SKOS collaterals
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TomB: redirection pages
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Ralph: I asked Ian Jacobs about the preferred term: superseeded version
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TomB: redirections for the SKOS Mapping vocab spec and Quick guide
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Antoine: the only issue to deal with is branding, see agenda
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PROPOSED change references to "SKOS 2008" to read "SKOS 2009" in the redirection pages in legacy SKOS core specifications
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TomB: any discussion? (no objections)
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RESOLVED: change references to "SKOS 2008" to read "SKOS 2009" in the redirection pages in legacy SKOS core specifications
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Ralph: I'm already changing the references
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TomB: wikipedia page on SKOS is outdated
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... i don't think we can assign actions to do anything about that
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... this is one of the last telecons of the group, no time to track an action on this
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** SKOS community after SWD
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Ralph: allow access for Alistair
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... Antoine also has access
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TomB: what happens if they cannot update it?
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Ralph: we don't have any special process for this
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... if there is someone else in the community that volunteers to help, how we proceed?
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... usually decision by the team and the editors
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Antoine: maybe we should add a note at the bottom
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Ralph: I don't like adding a note at the bottom at the page, candidates must ping us instead
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... anyway if the current maintainers cannot update it anymore, a note can be added then asking for help
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TomB: scope of that page mainly on activities under w3c umbrella, with external links to the community
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+Guus
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Ralph: will fix the typo with the mailing list in the status section
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berrueta: maybe someone sent messages to the wrong mailing list?
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Ralph: will double check the archives
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topic: RDFa
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ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
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--continues
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Ralph: reports on last week telecons, see minutes -> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html
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... TF discussing whether lauching a XG or IG to carry on the technical discussion and being a forum to answer questions from the community on RDFa deployment
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... discussing priorities for technical work
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topic: Recipes
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15:34:56 [Ralph]
zakim, who's on the phone?
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sorry, Ralph, I don't know what conference this is
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On IRC I see Guus, Clay, edsu, Ralph, seanb, RRSAgent, TomB, berrueta, Antoine
15:35:00 [Ralph]
zakim, this is swd
15:35:00 [Zakim]
ok, Ralph; that matches SW_SWD()11:00AM
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zakim, who's on the phone?
15:35:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Tom, Diego, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed
15:35:09 [berrueta]
TomB: we should have this published as a Note
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+??P18
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-??P18
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+??P18
15:36:14 [berrueta]
... we need to move http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ to W3C space
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TomB: which are the changes?
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berrueta: slight change on the Apache directives
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-> http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/diff.html diffs from editor's draft
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TomB: the change is small enough without a new review
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PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
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RESOLVED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
15:38:59 [berrueta]
Guus: I agree
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ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
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--drop
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ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note
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Ralph: (about action on Wordnet) we don't want to miss it, but it is not realistic to expect it done
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ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in
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http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
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--dropped
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TomB: we have it in the minutes notes anyway
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TomB: there was some discussion on the list about content negotiation
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... any comments? (no)
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topic: RDFa metadata note
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TomB: we have an ED, it was our intention to publish a Note
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with apologies -- another irc bot restart needed to recover a bridge connection
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... there are some issues and notes in the text
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15:44:10 [Ralph]
zakim, this is swd
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ok, Ralph; that matches SW_SWD()11:00AM
15:46:02 [berrueta]
berrueta: i suggest to get it published as WD, even without fixing the open issues
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TomB: we should try to publish it in W3C space
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... can Ralph move it out of the wiki into WG space
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... ?
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Ralph: strange to publish an initial draft at the end of the WG
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+1 for input to RDFa outreach
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... we can move it to WG space as a ED
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edsu: +1
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ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
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--dropped
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Guus: how we make it officially?
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Ralph: no special process is required (WG space is not /TR space)
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... just removing it from the wiki attachment
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Guus: fine with that
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ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space
15:53:29 [berrueta]
Guus: we need some telecons to get testimonials and feedback from AC reps
15:53:30 [Ralph]
regrets for 16 June
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... I'm at risk for next telecon
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TomB: proposed next telecon Jun 23
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Ralph: chapter extension for a couple of weeks
15:55:06 [edsu]
seanb++
15:55:13 [Ralph]
Three cheers for Sean !
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s/chapter/charter
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Guus: thanks to seanb for impl report
15:55:56 [Ralph]
zakim, ??p18 is Guus
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+Guus; got it
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+Diego
15:56:57 [berrueta]
Ralph: thank you to Tom and guus for leading us forward
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html Ralph
15:57:25 [TomB]
Meeting is adjourned.
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[adjourned]
15:57:57 [Ralph]
zakim, list attendees
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As of this point the attendees have been Tom, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed, Guus
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-Sean
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-Tom
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-Clay
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-Guus
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-Antoine
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-Ed
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-Ralph
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SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Tom, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed, Guus
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html Ralph
15:59:43 [Ralph]
zakim, bye
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