See also: IRC log
<dsinger> so, questions about the mapping: we need to identify for which of these properties would a query expect to return one result, and for which we could get multiple results
<dsinger> we also need to work out whether the API is supposed to deliver what is in the file, verbatim, or whether it is supposed to try to manipulate the data into some kind of canonical form?
<dsinger> for example, dates into ISO or RFC 3339 date format?
<dsinger> identifiers into URNs, that identify the scheme and the identifier in that scheme?
<dsinger> keywords from a defined set or open?
<dsinger> we're also trying to define which elements are technical properties (e.g. frame size) and which are annotations
In Wikipedia: Media Object is a portion of one or two elements that may contain video and/or audio. Media objects with audio are normally synchronized with the video when used at the same time.
annotation naming: ma:title (dc:title), ma:creator(dc:creator), ma:rights(dc:rights), ma:contributor(dc:contributor), ma:description(dc:description), ma:keyword (dc:subject)
ma: identifier (A URI identifies an entity which can be either a Resource (abstract concept) or a Prpresentation (instance/file). Refer to 4.4
refer to 4.4 Annotating Media Fragments http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#uc4
Type: either MIME type or file format ?
ma: type (genre of the entity) and genre is removed
createdate: create the film (1800 war) in 1999 => create date is 1800 or 1999 ?
ma: createdate can be createdate, releasedate, etc...
dc: type is The nature or genre of the resource, but genre is well used and understood in contents today...which might be better word ? *Type* or *Genre* ?
copyright is an identification holder, and what rights means ?
dc: rights => Information about rights held in and over the resource
<dsinger> suggest we select 'copyright' and identify it as possibly matching dc:rights, and not have a separate 'rights
DRM and Right Managements are not in-scope of MAWG...keeping *Copyright* and removing *Rights* from the properties
W3C does not have its own DRM and just trying to reuse them
ma: language (used in resource such as english, franch, spanish, korean, etc...) reference: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt
*
dc: relation, what relation and how to express these relationship ? such as a URI
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<scribe> ACTION: Soohong Daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].
ma: compression (compression of
type used, such as codec: H.264, etc...), reference to
:http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt
... ShotLocation (location associated with the entity. Can be
the depicted location or shot location) reference to: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-geolocation-API-20081222/
... targetAudience (is newly added): for example: parental
guide (kids lock), targeting geographical, etc...)
<joakim> felix re you there?
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)
<vrodrgue> Hi Felix, we are dialed-in...
<fsasaki> hi vrodruge, I will dial in later, see above
<veroniquemalaise> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags
<wonsuk> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Format_mapping_review
make minutes
<fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to provide information about language identification, in addition to RFC 4646 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Provide information about language identification, in addition to RFC 4646 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-04-24].
<fsasaki> sorry for giving myself an action ...
<scribe> ACTION: Soohong Daniel to ask members for the definition of contributor types [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - Daniel to ask members for the definition of contributor types [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].
zamik, who is here
<scribe> ACTION: Wonsuk (and editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology document by April 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-106 - (and editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology document by April 28 [on WonSuk Lee - due 2009-04-24].
who is here?
<joakim> An identifier can adress either a "Resource" (abstract concept) or a "Representation" (instance/file).
<joakim> It can be a singel object or composed of fragments
a new selected mappilg table: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags
<scribe> ACTION: Joakim to update the all excel format files according to the new initial MAWG attributes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Update the all excel format files according to the new initial MAWG attributes [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].
<veroniquemalaise> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html
3 major parts: introduction, definition and mapping table.
Raphael, we are now trying to shut down the meeting by 5 PM wihtout break
<vrodrgue> .
<scribe> ACTION: Joakim to make a *call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of mapping table [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Make a *call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of mapping table [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].
Attribution and description might be elaborated. Each Attribute has a clear meaning and explanation.
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Dave
who is here?
<scribe> ACTION: dsinger to elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - dsinger
<scribe> ACTION: David to elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [on David Singer - due 2009-04-24].
<scribe> ACTION: Joakim to double check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated things [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Double check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated things [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].
<scribe> done
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