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<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Jan/0019
tom: problem of sun image, alt 'sunny spells' doesn't make much sence
eric: leave the alt empty
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/before/index
shadi: maybe the weather image can be
dynamic
... demo has been presented to the waiage tf
<eric> latest latest version: http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/info/
<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/index/
tom: latest version looks great
wilco: there's a layout bug in the last version on font resizing in IE6
shadi: the background of the tab button makes
the demo page look like a screenshot
... we should save finetuning for later
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Jan/0011
<shadi> http://www.wienfluss.net/BAD/inbetween/inbetween_after.html
wilko: screenreader users got the
extra-elements always on their screen. Any idea?
... sreenreaders focus always on the images how to focus on the title?
shadi: using a poup-box is a better
solution?
... better then jumping to the bottom?
wilco: maybe we can set the focus to the
anchor
... will prepare a proposal with a positioned icon at the annotation
shadi: the icons are to small?
tom: a page full of icons would be a visual desaster
michael: new idea: icon-collection besides the page
shadi: a legend is needed
... we agreed: only two icons per page: "tick" and "information" at
accessible version
... "error" and "information" at the inaccessible version
maik: all updates have been mailed
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/waiage
tom: we should use relative units rather then pt for text size
shadi: which of the wai-age requirements have we not shown yet that we want to show
maik: my idea was to make the before demo to show more problems
<shadi> http://www.mcwiwa.de/bad-tf/waiage_updated.htm
tom: sounds good
<maik_w> newer version: http://www.mcwiwa.de/bad-tf/waiage_updatedII.htm
maik: take the before page and make it worse
shadi: does anybody have comments on the updateed list?
tom: items looked good
shadi: no consence on if we should use font
resize links, he suggests leaving it out
... leave breadcrums and text resize out
tom: sounds like we agree on maik's list
maik: not sure how to demonstrate the problem
of blue/green
... maybe use blue/gree in the before page as a contrast problem
shadi: many of the requirements do not mix with the demo
tom: stick with WCAG 2
... maybe if the table has an column showing bad and good example
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Jan/0007
shadi: some of the problems have been talked about by michael
wilco: can get some things ready for the inbetween pages
maik: will get a list of proposals for worse bad page
shadi: think it will be good to have a meeting next week
<Michael> here is a IE6 screenshot for the minutes: http://www.wienfluss.net/BAD/ie6_screenshot.png