See also: IRC log
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING]
Kai: Robert hasn't got back to me
about that yet
... I've been doing some improvements on the widgets
tests
... namely in the XML Digital Signature stuff
... I've also caught up with the updates to the RelaxNG of the
spec
Wilhelm: I'll talk to Robert about your questions
Dom: WebApps is asking us comments on Widgets Packaging/Configuration
Kai: I've sent comments, but not on behalf of the group
Dom: I don't think we need to
send formal comments, since Kai is already sending
comments
... Kai, can you make sure to copy the comments to the list,
though?
Kai: sure
Wilhelm: Opera has also participants in that group
<dom_scribe> Device INdependent testing guidelines
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
Dom: I've started a general
rewrite of the document, to show what I had in mind
... still need to finish going through my
categories
<scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
Dmitri: I based by comments on the previous version - will send them
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0015.html
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING]
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING]
Dom: started to do that, but didn't really figure out how to make it work properly
Kai: ease of use could be
improved indeed
... The idea is that it is supposed to show the next number in
sequence
Dom: I think it probably didn't work on my palm
Kai: could use a binary search tree
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to implement binary search tree to determin limits of memory test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for the inputmode test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING]
<scribe> ACTION: WIhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING]
Kai: one thing that keeps popping
up for me is bound to SSL tests
... certificate fragmentation
... I've emailed a guy at Verizon to get an extended
certificate for testing, but haven't heard back
Wilhelm: what particular problems?
Kai: variation among certificate
authorities, for instance
... on many devices, you can't inspect the trust roots
... makes it even harder to figure what might be going
wrong
... another aspect is that some devices don't implement
extended validation properly
... the first one seems more important to me, though
s/verizon/versign/
scribe: the SSL story on mobile seems a bit weird
Wilhelm: would probably be hard
to test in our framework, though
... to get the padlock, you need to have all the loaded items
coming through SSL
... at least in Opera
Kai: my bank site gets a padlock
even though they're loading external javascript stuff
... I'll check it with opera
... any rough idea, Wilhelm?
Wilhelm: thinking around Javascript, DOM, ...
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to look into creating test cases for SSL and certificates support on mobile [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
Wilhelm: SSL is not establishing a hierarchy of trust, but a hierarchy of whom to blame
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
<dom_scribe> Welcome message in our blog!
Wilhelm: so you can now publish your post when you want
Kai: will do in a couple of
days
... to space them out
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING]
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING]
Dom: Dmitri, Carmelo, make sure your org re-join the group
<dom_scribe> interface to join the group for AC Reps
Dom: wilhelm not available next week, and I'll be just back from travel
Kai: probably not available either
RESOLUTION: Next call on January 27