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<trackbot> Date: 16 October 2008
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/11
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2055
<scribe> ACTION: ed to take over the scope-chain removal action from heycam and address ISSUE-2055 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2303 - Take over the scope-chain removal action from heycam and address ISSUE-2055 [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-10-23].
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2141
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2146
RESOLUTION: Remove sentence "If the user agent cannot find a graphics element or SVGElementInstance object to be the target object (e.g., the pointer event occurs over the viewport background), then the user agent must set the target object to be the rootmost 'svg' element." from the interactivity chapter
RATIONALE: This was not in SVG 1.1, and also contradicts the step-by-step instructions below
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/master/interact.html.diff?r1=1.55&r2=1.56&f=h
<scribe> ACTION: DS to remove the sentence "If the user agent cannot find a graphics element or SVGElementInstance object to be the target object (e.g., the pointer event occurs over the viewport background), then the user agent must set the target object to be the rootmost 'svg' element." from the interactivity chapter and respond to LC comment, ISSUE-2146 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2304 - Remove the sentence \"If the user agent cannot find a graphics element or SVGElementInstance object to be the target object (e.g., the pointer event occurs over the viewport background), then the user agent must set the target object to be the rootmost 'svg' element.\" from the interactivity chapter and respond to LC comment, ISSUE-2146 [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-10-23].
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2148
<scribe> ACTION: ed to Clarify script outside rootmost svg element wording in the scripting chapter (ISSUE-2148) and respond to cyril [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2305 - Clarify script outside rootmost svg element wording in the scripting chapter (ISSUE-2148) and respond to cyril [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-10-23].
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2098
Modifying a 'script' element's 'xlink:href' attribute after its "already processed" flag is set to true will not cause any new script content to be fetched or executed.
not exactly it though
<scribe> ACTION: ed to address ISSUE-2098, the script element should be removed but this won't affect script execution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2306 - Address ISSUE-2098, the script element should be removed but this won't affect script execution [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-10-23].
<anthony> ed_work, shepazu, NH, just got back
hey anthony
<anthony> looks like Olaf got back to me about issue 2082
<anthony> I've closed that off
cool
<anthony> we need to discuss 2089
I've just committed what I hope will address ISSUE-2062
so, I think what's left there is to send a response to doh
I'll run make too, and check in the publish version in a moment
<anthony> ok
NH: ping?
trackbot, close ACTION-2285
<trackbot> ACTION-2285 Clarify the second point of Issue-2062 closed
<NH> I'll call in shortly, just got back from lunch
great ok
I think if someone wants to reply to ISSUE-2062 that should be possible now
no more spec editing should be needed
trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 16 October 2008
<scribe> scribe: erik
<scribe> scribeNick: ed_work
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2089
AG: DOH gives an explanation of
underlying values
... makes some conclusions based on the spec wording
... thinks it's just a misunderstand of SMIL
... and animateTranform is in conflict with the SMIL
definitions
... not sure the suggestions are good since I'm not sure how it
affects animations
AG/AE: agree with the paragraph starting "my impression is"
<scribe> ACTION: AG to make changes as suggested by DOH for ISSUE-2089 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2307 - Make changes as suggested by DOH for ISSUE-2089 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-10-23].
AG: the second part should probably be discussed more, but perhaps a later discussion
AE: right, this is not a new problem
<scribe> ACTION: AG to draft an email response for the second half of ISSUE-2089 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2308 - Draft an email response for the second half of ISSUE-2089 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-10-23].
<anthony> ISSUE-2062?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2062 -- foreignObject content and referenced resource -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2062
ED: I have added some clarifying wording to the spec, and chris addressed the first part
<scribe> ACTION: AG to respond to DOH regarding ISSUE-2062 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2309 - Respond to DOH regarding ISSUE-2062 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-10-23].
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2141
AG: looking at cvs log
... changing the example now
<scribe> ACTION: AG to verify that the example prefetch02.svg in the structure chapter is really UTF-16, and fix it if so (ISSUE-2141) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2310 - Verify that the example prefetch02.svg in the structure chapter is really UTF-16, and fix it if so (ISSUE-2141) [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-10-23].
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2139
AE: would like to know what other
ppl thinks about this, but I don't think eRR affects prefetch
much
... I see that there is a relationship, and an informative note
is what he's asking for it seems
<scribe> ACTION: AE to send his opinion on ISSUE-2139 to the svgwg list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2311 - Send his opinion on ISSUE-2139 to the svgwg list [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-10-23].
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2147
AE: he has a response with some suggestions
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008OctDec/0117.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008OctDec/att-0117/single-page.html
AE: don't think he's added anything, just rearranged what was already there
AG: he's rewritten some things
AE: i think the sentence in red
should still be there
... i don't necessarily like how the last paragraph is
done
... maybe we could move the terms around, so that the third
paragraph is the second
... I don't want to make any bigger changes at this point
ED: yeah, I like what he's done, the list for example, but we need to verify that this has not changed what was in there before
<scribe> ACTION: AE to move the third paragraph in 14.1.6 to be the second paragraph and to respond to cyril (ISSUE-2147) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2312 - Move the third paragraph in 14.1.6 to be the second paragraph and to respond to cyril (ISSUE-2147) [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-10-23].
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2143
<scribe> ACTION: ed to respond to cyril regarding ISSUE-2143 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action11]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2313 - Respond to cyril regarding ISSUE-2143 [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-10-23].
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2150
ED: not sure either what 'required' attributes mean here
<scribe> ACTION: AE to verify that the removal of qouted section in ISSUE-2150 would not impact the JSR-226 and 287 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action12]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2314 - Verify that the removal of qouted section in ISSUE-2150 would not impact the JSR-226 and 287 [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-10-23].
ED: I'd be ok with taking it out, it doesn't make sense to me
NH: I have no problem with taking
it out either
... does it affect JSR-226 since it's tiny 1.1?
AE: they've asked us to not break
their specs
... so we need to be a bit careful
NH: I might have to check up on
this first
... will check it today
ED: don't understand his last
question there
... in ISSUE-2150
AE: maybe if you have a script and the script throws an exception would it put the document in error?
ED: right ok, I don't think it would
AE: agreed
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2134
ED: he's misread the spec for the
conceptual g element, it says it doesn't transfer the
x,y,xml:base and xlink:href to the generated g element
... I agree that the broken sentence there is strange
... I'll go through the cvs logs and see if I can find
out
... he's correct about width and height on use, so the example
needs to be fixed
... i'd be happy if someone could take a look at the id:s and
last question about xml:base
<scribe> ACTION: ed to address ISSUE-2134 as indicated in these minutes and respond to cyril [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-svg-minutes.html#action13]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2315 - Address ISSUE-2134 as indicated in these minutes and respond to cyril [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-10-23].
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