IRC log of core on 2008-09-17

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+Felix

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ok, r12a; the call is being made

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+Richard

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zakim, drop richard

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Richard is being disconnected

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-Richard

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Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group

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zakim, dial richard-home

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ok, r12a; the call is being made

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Chair: Addison Phillips

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+Richard

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Scribe: Addison Phillips

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ScribeNick: aphillip

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Agenda: http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html aphillip

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Topic: Minutes and Agenda review

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Topic: Action Items

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Andrew to continue work on What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8?

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Addison: write basic outline in wiki for a note on case folding

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all: review powder section on IRI for upcoming call

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Topic: Info Share

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norbert: going to TPAC

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(yay)

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david: yes, addison: no, richard+felix: yes

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kobayashi (jltf): yes

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richard: topics to discuss before we get there

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agenda topics to discuss tpac in next call

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dial-in bridge for tpac?

14:13:14 [andrewc]

yes

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if posisble

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looks like we will

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richard: trying to get junkshik shin to participate; he's busy with chrome

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.... but now we know who to talk to about webkit/chrome :-)

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... planning to work on setting default fonts for specific unicode ranges

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... do it the IE way

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hopefully better than the IE way

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... rather than FF way

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... user cusomtisable: yes, by script

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IE customisable by most scripts not all scripts

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"chinese" vs. "japanese", etc.

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doesn't quite follow the script or the language; it's a mix

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and not a full list

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-??P10

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zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see ??P9, Richard, Addison_Phillips, Felix, Yves_Savourel

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On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, David, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a, andrewc, YvesS

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+??P10

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richard: rewrote the webfonts

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zakim, ??P10 is David

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+David; got it

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... added a note to say "please download the font before running test"

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http://www.w3.org/International/tests/test-webfonts-1

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http://www.w3.org/International/tests/test-webfonts-2

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RRSAgent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html aphillip

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... will publish results soon

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addison: > SVG Tiny 1.2 LC

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... any volunteers to review

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ACTION: Felix: review SVG Tiny 1.2 LC

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addison: > URI Templates

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something that looks like http://example.org/{userid}

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{a}{b}

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a=e

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b=\u0301

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richard: case sensitivity?

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... should that be in charmod-resid

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(addison ponders his case foldeing AI)

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addison: > Membership

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please encourage people to join us

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best if they are member employees

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richard: bohdan might get some people to join

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richard: JLTF document is nearing the point where we will start getting it into better editorial shape; richard may assist in doing that

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... hoping to get another version before TPAC

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felix: plan is to hand it over to richard next week

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... doc consists of intro section, plus two more sectrions

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... section 3 is moribund for now

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... section 3 is about positioning figures (block objects)

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... section 1 is basic concepts

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... section 2 specifics, esp. for vertical text

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... if good outcome, maybe have another phase to do more work next year

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scribe: fsasaki

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topic: Unicode conference review

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addison: Richard and Addison did tutorials and presentations

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.. attendance was a bit down but still good

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-David

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.. did recruting, had presentation about ws-i18n, might lead to more participation here

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.. see my presentations linked from interlocale web site

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addison: one presentation about IDNA and relation to indian languages, was great

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richard: yes. In India lots of characters which look identical

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.. even in the same script

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discussion of the indic presentation on idna problems

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http://jdlh.com/en/doc/2008/unicode_doggerel.html

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http://i18ngal.blogspot.com/

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topic: XML Schema 1.1 comments

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Sep/0002.html

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discussion on renaming of character blocks, with following action as result:

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action: Addison to ask UTC that character blocks names will be made stable.

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After that, Felix will go back to XML Schema people to argue that blocks are now stable, so no need to have a specific version of the UCD, and the benefit of allowing new characters

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on XML 1.0 5th edition comment, XML Schema people refused to drop the reference to XML 1.1

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addison: we come back to them then XML 1.0 5th edition is approved

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topic: font tests

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richard asks for people to help with font testing on various platforms

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-Addison_Phillips

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-Felix

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-Yves_Savourel

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-Richard

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I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Richard, Addison_Phillips, Felix, Yves_Savourel, David

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present: Addison, Dave, Richard, Yves, Felix

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