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19:52:43 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG 
19:52:43 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
19:52:49 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU 
19:53:19 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
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19:55:43 <jeanne> Hi Jan
19:57:20 <jeanne> zakim, code?
19:57:20 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne
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19:57:49 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne
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19:58:10 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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19:58:57 <Jan> zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
19:58:57 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
20:01:37 <Zakim> + +2
20:01:53 <Jan> zakim, +2 is really AnnM
20:01:53 <Zakim> +AnnM; got it
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20:03:57 <Jan> zakim, ??P14 is really AndrewR
20:03:57 <Zakim> +AndrewR; got it
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20:05:16 <Jan> zakim, [IBM] is really MikeS
20:05:16 <Zakim> +MikeS; got it
20:05:27 <jeanne> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
20:07:11 <jeanne> scribe: jeanne
20:07:31 <jeanne> ACTION: JS creates a scribe schedule and send out scribing instructions
20:07:43 <jeanne> chair: jan
20:08:10 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:08:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:08:18 <jeanne> rrsagent, set logs public
20:11:28 <Zakim> + +1.301.987.aabb
20:12:04 <jeanne> zakim +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
20:12:18 <jeanne>  zakim, +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
20:12:18 <Zakim> +TimB; got it
20:12:45 <jeanne> topic: Next Face to Face Scheduling
20:13:18 <jeanne> Next meeting in Technical Plenary in France in October
20:13:28 <jeanne> JR: Conflicts?
20:14:35 <jeanne> AR and AM: France is better than Seattle.
20:14:53 <jeanne> MS: when is our time slot? 
20:15:24 <jeanne> JR: Thursday Friday time.  Protocols and Formats is meeting those days, too. UAAG is meeting Monday Tuesday. 
20:17:03 <jeanne> JR: Will probably need the time anyway, given the number of issues coming in on ATAG. 
20:17:19 <jeanne> JR: Looks positive for October F2F.
20:17:45 <jeanne> Topic: F2F in Seattle
20:18:02 <jeanne> TB: WIll there be a phone number to call in?
20:18:27 <jeanne> Topic: Review of Action Items
20:18:41 <jeanne> AM: May not be able to attend next week's meeting. 
20:20:30 <jeanne> GP: Has gotten through 2.4.1 of WCAG with corresponding items.  I am about half way done. 
20:21:36 <jeanne> JR: Sent out the new Editor's Draft with some of the harmonization changes and editorial changes from Reed. 
20:21:47 <jeanne> ACTION: JS set up issues tracking 
20:23:29 <jeanne> JR: Postpone action item on WCAG harmonization until after the Face to Face. 
20:24:04 <jeanne> ACTION: JS and JR will make sure that all comments are in place for the Face to Face meeting. 
20:26:45 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
20:26:53 <jeanne> Topic: Simplify and harmonize "Content Display" vs. "Chrome"
20:30:12 <jeanne> JR: Background of chrome and content display
20:30:29 <jeanne> JR: Has thought about other terms and came up with "
20:31:21 <jeanne> ..."content views and "user interface controls excluding content views"
20:32:41 <jeanne> JR: WYSIWYG in interesting because if the author is sighted and the user is not, then what the Author sees is not what the user gets. 
20:33:16 <Zakim> -TimB
20:33:41 <jeanne> s/"user interface controls excluding content views"/"user interface excluding content views"
20:34:43 <jeanne> JR: review email of Jul 7 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
20:37:32 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0018.html
20:37:52 <jeanne> JR: Al sent the response - link above. 
20:43:07 <jeanne> JS: Suggest it be divided for responsibility for creation, either the author tool or the user generated content. 
20:44:17 <jeanne> JR: We know it when we see it, the trouble is capturing it. Responsibility might be a useful way forward.
20:44:38 <jeanne> JR: The problem is areas of mixed responsibility.
20:44:59 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0022.html
20:49:33 <jeanne> JS: Withdraw objection to chrome, as long as it is used without quotes. Also shouldn't be used with user interface as that is redundent.
20:50:09 <jeanne> JS: Content would be user-generated content.  
20:50:28 <jeanne> AM: Would rather have user-genereated content.  
20:52:59 <jeanne> JR: In the case of Dreamweaver and split-screen displays, is the image in the rendered WSYWYG Chrome? 
20:53:13 <jeanne> JS: No, it is user-generated content. 
20:53:33 <jeanne> MS: Don't like chrome, it makes me think about user agent chrome. 
20:55:38 <jeanne> AM: Authoring tool functionality or Authoring tool interface
20:56:14 <Zakim> -AnnM
20:56:39 <jeanne> JR: Authoring Tool's own user interface
20:56:43 <Zakim> +??P3
20:57:02 <jeanne> zakim, ??P3 is really AnnM
20:57:02 <Zakim> +AnnM; got it
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20:57:27 <jeanne> JR: Want to get a direction of where people are going. 
20:57:28 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0021.html
20:59:13 <Zakim> -MikeS
20:59:14 <jeanne> ACTION: Everyone send ideas to JS and JR for choices of words to describe the topic.
20:59:19 <Zakim> -Greg_Pisocky
20:59:24 <jeanne> Next meeting, next week. 
20:59:30 <Zakim> -AnnM
20:59:48 <Zakim> -Jeanne
20:59:50 <Zakim> -Jan
20:59:57 <Zakim> -AndrewR
20:59:58 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
20:59:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, AnnM, Greg_Pisocky, AndrewR, MikeS, TimB
21:00:05 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
21:00:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
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21:03:08 <jeanne> zakim, please part
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