IRC log of au on 2008-07-14
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-irc
- 19:52:43 [Jan]
- Zakim, this will be AUWG
- 19:52:43 [Zakim]
- ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
- 19:52:49 [Jan]
- Meeting: WAI AU
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
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- Hi Jan
- 19:57:20 [jeanne]
- zakim, code?
- 19:57:20 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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- +Jeanne
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- -Jeanne
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Jeanne
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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- +Jeanne
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- +??P2
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- zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
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- +Jan; got it
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- + +2
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- zakim, +2 is really AnnM
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- +AnnM; got it
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- +Greg_Pisocky
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- +??P14
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- zakim, ??P14 is really AndrewR
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- +AndrewR; got it
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, [IBM] is really MikeS
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- +MikeS; got it
- 20:05:27 [jeanne]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
- 20:07:11 [jeanne]
- scribe: jeanne
- 20:07:31 [jeanne]
- ACTION: JS creates a scribe schedule and send out scribing instructions
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- chair: jan
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
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- rrsagent, set logs public
- 20:11:28 [Zakim]
- + +1.301.987.aabb
- 20:12:04 [jeanne]
- zakim +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
- 20:12:18 [jeanne]
- zakim, +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
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- +TimB; got it
- 20:12:45 [jeanne]
- topic: Next Face to Face Scheduling
- 20:13:18 [jeanne]
- Next meeting in Technical Plenary in France in October
- 20:13:28 [jeanne]
- JR: Conflicts?
- 20:14:35 [jeanne]
- AR and AM: France is better than Seattle.
- 20:14:53 [jeanne]
- MS: when is our time slot?
- 20:15:24 [jeanne]
- JR: Thursday Friday time. Protocols and Formats is meeting those days, too. UAAG is meeting Monday Tuesday.
- 20:17:03 [jeanne]
- JR: Will probably need the time anyway, given the number of issues coming in on ATAG.
- 20:17:19 [jeanne]
- JR: Looks positive for October F2F.
- 20:17:45 [jeanne]
- Topic: F2F in Seattle
- 20:18:02 [jeanne]
- TB: WIll there be a phone number to call in?
- 20:18:27 [jeanne]
- Topic: Review of Action Items
- 20:18:41 [jeanne]
- AM: May not be able to attend next week's meeting.
- 20:20:30 [jeanne]
- GP: Has gotten through 2.4.1 of WCAG with corresponding items. I am about half way done.
- 20:21:36 [jeanne]
- JR: Sent out the new Editor's Draft with some of the harmonization changes and editorial changes from Reed.
- 20:21:47 [jeanne]
- ACTION: JS set up issues tracking
- 20:23:29 [jeanne]
- JR: Postpone action item on WCAG harmonization until after the Face to Face.
- 20:24:04 [jeanne]
- ACTION: JS and JR will make sure that all comments are in place for the Face to Face meeting.
- 20:26:45 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
- 20:26:53 [jeanne]
- Topic: Simplify and harmonize "Content Display" vs. "Chrome"
- 20:30:12 [jeanne]
- JR: Background of chrome and content display
- 20:30:29 [jeanne]
- JR: Has thought about other terms and came up with "
- 20:31:21 [jeanne]
- ..."content views and "user interface controls excluding content views"
- 20:32:41 [jeanne]
- JR: WYSIWYG in interesting because if the author is sighted and the user is not, then what the Author sees is not what the user gets.
- 20:33:16 [Zakim]
- -TimB
- 20:33:41 [jeanne]
- s/"user interface controls excluding content views"/"user interface excluding content views"
- 20:34:43 [jeanne]
- JR: review email of Jul 7 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
- 20:37:32 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0018.html
- 20:37:52 [jeanne]
- JR: Al sent the response - link above.
- 20:43:07 [jeanne]
- JS: Suggest it be divided for responsibility for creation, either the author tool or the user generated content.
- 20:44:17 [jeanne]
- JR: We know it when we see it, the trouble is capturing it. Responsibility might be a useful way forward.
- 20:44:38 [jeanne]
- JR: The problem is areas of mixed responsibility.
- 20:44:59 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0022.html
- 20:49:33 [jeanne]
- JS: Withdraw objection to chrome, as long as it is used without quotes. Also shouldn't be used with user interface as that is redundent.
- 20:50:09 [jeanne]
- JS: Content would be user-generated content.
- 20:50:28 [jeanne]
- AM: Would rather have user-genereated content.
- 20:52:59 [jeanne]
- JR: In the case of Dreamweaver and split-screen displays, is the image in the rendered WSYWYG Chrome?
- 20:53:13 [jeanne]
- JS: No, it is user-generated content.
- 20:53:33 [jeanne]
- MS: Don't like chrome, it makes me think about user agent chrome.
- 20:55:38 [jeanne]
- AM: Authoring tool functionality or Authoring tool interface
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- -AnnM
- 20:56:39 [jeanne]
- JR: Authoring Tool's own user interface
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- +??P3
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- zakim, ??P3 is really AnnM
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- +AnnM; got it
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- JR: Want to get a direction of where people are going.
- 20:57:28 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0021.html
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- -MikeS
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- ACTION: Everyone send ideas to JS and JR for choices of words to describe the topic.
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- -Greg_Pisocky
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- Next meeting, next week.
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- -AnnM
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- -Jeanne
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- -Jan
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- -AndrewR
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, AnnM, Greg_Pisocky, AndrewR, MikeS, TimB
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
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- zakim, please part
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