IRC log of au on 2008-07-14

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19:52:43 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:52:43 [Zakim]
ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
19:52:49 [Jan]
Meeting: WAI AU
19:53:19 [Jan]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
19:55:20 [jeanne]
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Hi Jan
19:57:20 [jeanne]
zakim, code?
19:57:20 [Zakim]
the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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-Jeanne
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jeanne
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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+??P2
19:58:57 [Jan]
zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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+ +2
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zakim, +2 is really AnnM
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+AnnM; got it
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+Greg_Pisocky
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+??P14
20:03:57 [Jan]
zakim, ??P14 is really AndrewR
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+AndrewR; got it
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+[IBM]
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zakim, [IBM] is really MikeS
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+MikeS; got it
20:05:27 [jeanne]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0023.html
20:07:11 [jeanne]
scribe: jeanne
20:07:31 [jeanne]
ACTION: JS creates a scribe schedule and send out scribing instructions
20:07:43 [jeanne]
chair: jan
20:08:10 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:08:18 [jeanne]
rrsagent, set logs public
20:11:28 [Zakim]
+ +1.301.987.aabb
20:12:04 [jeanne]
zakim +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
20:12:18 [jeanne]
zakim, +1.301.987.aabb is really TimB
20:12:18 [Zakim]
+TimB; got it
20:12:45 [jeanne]
topic: Next Face to Face Scheduling
20:13:18 [jeanne]
Next meeting in Technical Plenary in France in October
20:13:28 [jeanne]
JR: Conflicts?
20:14:35 [jeanne]
AR and AM: France is better than Seattle.
20:14:53 [jeanne]
MS: when is our time slot?
20:15:24 [jeanne]
JR: Thursday Friday time. Protocols and Formats is meeting those days, too. UAAG is meeting Monday Tuesday.
20:17:03 [jeanne]
JR: Will probably need the time anyway, given the number of issues coming in on ATAG.
20:17:19 [jeanne]
JR: Looks positive for October F2F.
20:17:45 [jeanne]
Topic: F2F in Seattle
20:18:02 [jeanne]
TB: WIll there be a phone number to call in?
20:18:27 [jeanne]
Topic: Review of Action Items
20:18:41 [jeanne]
AM: May not be able to attend next week's meeting.
20:20:30 [jeanne]
GP: Has gotten through 2.4.1 of WCAG with corresponding items. I am about half way done.
20:21:36 [jeanne]
JR: Sent out the new Editor's Draft with some of the harmonization changes and editorial changes from Reed.
20:21:47 [jeanne]
ACTION: JS set up issues tracking
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JR: Postpone action item on WCAG harmonization until after the Face to Face.
20:24:04 [jeanne]
ACTION: JS and JR will make sure that all comments are in place for the Face to Face meeting.
20:26:45 [Jan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
20:26:53 [jeanne]
Topic: Simplify and harmonize "Content Display" vs. "Chrome"
20:30:12 [jeanne]
JR: Background of chrome and content display
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JR: Has thought about other terms and came up with "
20:31:21 [jeanne]
..."content views and "user interface controls excluding content views"
20:32:41 [jeanne]
JR: WYSIWYG in interesting because if the author is sighted and the user is not, then what the Author sees is not what the user gets.
20:33:16 [Zakim]
-TimB
20:33:41 [jeanne]
s/"user interface controls excluding content views"/"user interface excluding content views"
20:34:43 [jeanne]
JR: review email of Jul 7 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0005.html
20:37:32 [Jan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0018.html
20:37:52 [jeanne]
JR: Al sent the response - link above.
20:43:07 [jeanne]
JS: Suggest it be divided for responsibility for creation, either the author tool or the user generated content.
20:44:17 [jeanne]
JR: We know it when we see it, the trouble is capturing it. Responsibility might be a useful way forward.
20:44:38 [jeanne]
JR: The problem is areas of mixed responsibility.
20:44:59 [Jan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0022.html
20:49:33 [jeanne]
JS: Withdraw objection to chrome, as long as it is used without quotes. Also shouldn't be used with user interface as that is redundent.
20:50:09 [jeanne]
JS: Content would be user-generated content.
20:50:28 [jeanne]
AM: Would rather have user-genereated content.
20:52:59 [jeanne]
JR: In the case of Dreamweaver and split-screen displays, is the image in the rendered WSYWYG Chrome?
20:53:13 [jeanne]
JS: No, it is user-generated content.
20:53:33 [jeanne]
MS: Don't like chrome, it makes me think about user agent chrome.
20:55:38 [jeanne]
AM: Authoring tool functionality or Authoring tool interface
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-AnnM
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JR: Authoring Tool's own user interface
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+??P3
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zakim, ??P3 is really AnnM
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+AnnM; got it
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JR: Want to get a direction of where people are going.
20:57:28 [Jan]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0021.html
20:59:13 [Zakim]
-MikeS
20:59:14 [jeanne]
ACTION: Everyone send ideas to JS and JR for choices of words to describe the topic.
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-Greg_Pisocky
20:59:24 [jeanne]
Next meeting, next week.
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-AnnM
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-Jeanne
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-Jan
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-AndrewR
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, AnnM, Greg_Pisocky, AndrewR, MikeS, TimB
21:00:05 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/14-au-minutes.html jeanne
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zakim, please part
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