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14:57:38 <Ashok> zakim, this will be  RDB2RDF
14:57:38 <Zakim> ok, Ashok, I see INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM already started
14:57:53 <Ashok> chair: Ashok
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14:58:09 <Ashok> meeting: RDB2RDF Telcon
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15:00:28 <Andrew> zakim, who is on the phone
15:00:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Andrew
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15:01:58 <JimM_> zakim, who is here?
15:01:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.509.771.aaaa, +34.91.852.aabb, +1.408.285.aacc, Jim_Melton, Andrew_Eisenberg, Ashok_Malhotra, whalb, +0792123aadd
15:02:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see juansequeda, JimM_, whalb, JennyGreen, Andrew, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, joebetz, dpalmisano, MacTed
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15:07:02 <dpalmisano> 'm in, good evening to all
15:07:05 <Ashok> scrinenick: Andrew
15:07:40 <Andrew> No call July 18
15:07:54 <Andrew> 2. Appointment of minute taker 
15:07:56 <Andrew> Andrew
15:08:25 <Andrew> 4. XG Logistics 
15:08:50 <Andrew> 12 people said the could attend F2F meeting Oct. 31
15:08:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:09:28 <Andrew> Ashok recommends F2F Oct. 30, 31
15:09:37 <Andrew> no objections heard
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15:10:39 <Andrew> Andrew asks for some teleconference arrangements when the time comes
15:11:29 <Andrew> Wolfgang: details in a couple of weeks
15:11:40 <Zakim> +??P7
15:11:47 <Andrew> XG Vacation?
15:12:03 <Andrew> 10 said "yes"
15:12:58 <CGI352> [Microsoft] is satya sahoo
15:13:33 <AxelPolleres> Is that enough run-ahead to get the f2f organized?
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15:14:16 <Andrew> Ashok recommends 4 weeks off starting with Aug. 8, resuming Sept. 5
15:14:51 <Andrew> Ashok will let us know about meeting on Aug. 1
15:15:00 <AxelPolleres> ok, fine.
15:15:38 <Andrew> 3. Approve minutes of June 27, 2008 meeting
15:15:38 <Andrew>       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Jun/0016.html   
15:16:50 <Andrew> Accepted
15:16:55 <Andrew> 7. Comments on XG Deliverables?
15:16:55 <Andrew> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Jun/0006.html
15:17:02 <Andrew> We will discuss this in the future
15:17:13 <Andrew> 8. Presentation by Juan Sequeda
15:17:32 <Andrew> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/W3C_RDBRDF_XG_SEQUEDA.pdf
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15:19:44 <Andrew> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/W3C_RDBRDF_XG_SEQUEDA.pdf
15:25:31 <Andrew> Ashok: How is survey different from our wiki? 
15:25:42 <Andrew> Juan: specific to direct mapping
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15:26:11 <Andrew> Juan: Hopefully ready by end of Auguist
15:27:15 <Ashok> Completeness --> does it cover all pk/fk combinations
15:31:45 <Ashok> Userinput -> naming relationships, inheritance
15:32:16 <Andrew> user has someinput to the "generate" operation on slide 8
15:34:04 <Andrew> This approach is the same as RDB2Onto
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15:35:17 <Andrew> Concern raised that this does not generate a "quality" ontology
15:36:22 <Andrew> Juan agrees, problem shifted to the creation of a higher-level domain ontology
15:46:59 <Andrew> Ashok: What is the status of this work?
15:47:42 <Andrew> Juan: Will create generator of direct mapping.
15:49:25 <Andrew> Juan: Access to database via the mapping has not yet been done.
15:50:02 <Andrew> Juan: Transformation rules written in first order logic
15:50:44 <jsequeda> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/sql2sw.pdf
15:50:54 <Andrew> Juan will send us a link with these rules
15:51:04 <Ashok> The link is above
15:51:20 <Andrew> Juan will update our wiki pages
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15:58:22 <Andrew> 9. Future presentations
15:58:22 <Andrew>  - - Li Ma on IBM work July 25 
15:58:33 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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15:58:49 <Zakim> -Jim_Melton
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15:58:59 <Zakim> INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has ended
15:59:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.509.771.aaaa, +34.91.852.aabb, +1.408.285.aacc, Jim_Melton, Andrew_Eisenberg, Ashok_Malhotra, whalb, +0792123aadd, [Microsoft], AxelPolleres
15:59:11 <Ashok> zakim, list participants
15:59:11 <Zakim> sorry, Ashok, I don't know what conference this is
15:59:30 <Ashok> rrsagent, make logs public
15:59:51 <Ashok> rrsagent, create minutes
15:59:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/11-RDB2RDF-minutes.html Ashok
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