IRC log of RDB2RDF on 2008-07-11
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/11-RDB2RDF-irc
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- zakim, this will be RDB2RDF
- 14:57:38 [Zakim]
- ok, Ashok, I see INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM already started
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- chair: Ashok
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- meeting: RDB2RDF Telcon
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- zakim, who is on the phone
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- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Andrew
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- +Ashok_Malhotra
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see +1.509.771.aaaa, +34.91.852.aabb, +1.408.285.aacc, Jim_Melton, Andrew_Eisenberg, Ashok_Malhotra, whalb, +0792123aadd
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- On IRC I see juansequeda, JimM_, whalb, JennyGreen, Andrew, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, joebetz, dpalmisano, MacTed
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- +??P10
- 15:07:02 [dpalmisano]
- 'm in, good evening to all
- 15:07:05 [Ashok]
- scrinenick: Andrew
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- No call July 18
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- 2. Appointment of minute taker
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- Andrew
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- 4. XG Logistics
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- 12 people said the could attend F2F meeting Oct. 31
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- +[Microsoft]
- 15:09:28 [Andrew]
- Ashok recommends F2F Oct. 30, 31
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- no objections heard
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- Andrew asks for some teleconference arrangements when the time comes
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- Wolfgang: details in a couple of weeks
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- +??P7
- 15:11:47 [Andrew]
- XG Vacation?
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- 10 said "yes"
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- [Microsoft] is satya sahoo
- 15:13:33 [AxelPolleres]
- Is that enough run-ahead to get the f2f organized?
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- 15:14:16 [Andrew]
- Ashok recommends 4 weeks off starting with Aug. 8, resuming Sept. 5
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- Ashok will let us know about meeting on Aug. 1
- 15:15:00 [AxelPolleres]
- ok, fine.
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- 3. Approve minutes of June 27, 2008 meeting
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Jun/0016.html
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- Accepted
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- 7. Comments on XG Deliverables?
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Jun/0006.html
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- We will discuss this in the future
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- 8. Presentation by Juan Sequeda
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- http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/W3C_RDBRDF_XG_SEQUEDA.pdf
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- http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/W3C_RDBRDF_XG_SEQUEDA.pdf
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- Ashok: How is survey different from our wiki?
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- Juan: specific to direct mapping
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- 15:26:11 [Andrew]
- Juan: Hopefully ready by end of Auguist
- 15:27:15 [Ashok]
- Completeness --> does it cover all pk/fk combinations
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- Userinput -> naming relationships, inheritance
- 15:32:16 [Andrew]
- user has someinput to the "generate" operation on slide 8
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- This approach is the same as RDB2Onto
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- Concern raised that this does not generate a "quality" ontology
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- Juan agrees, problem shifted to the creation of a higher-level domain ontology
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- Ashok: What is the status of this work?
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- Juan: Will create generator of direct mapping.
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- Juan: Access to database via the mapping has not yet been done.
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- Juan: Transformation rules written in first order logic
- 15:50:44 [jsequeda]
- http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/pub/sql2sw.pdf
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- Juan will send us a link with these rules
- 15:51:04 [Ashok]
- The link is above
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- Juan will update our wiki pages
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- 9. Future presentations
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- - - Li Ma on IBM work July 25
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- -[Microsoft]
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- INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.509.771.aaaa, +34.91.852.aabb, +1.408.285.aacc, Jim_Melton, Andrew_Eisenberg, Ashok_Malhotra, whalb, +0792123aadd, [Microsoft], AxelPolleres
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- zakim, list participants
- 15:59:11 [Zakim]
- sorry, Ashok, I don't know what conference this is
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- rrsagent, make logs public
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- rrsagent, create minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/11-RDB2RDF-minutes.html Ashok
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