IRC log of bpwg on 2008-05-08
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be BPWG
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- ok, trackbot-ng, I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM already started
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- Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 08 May 2008
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, +0774762aaaa
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- zakim, +0774762aaaa is Scott
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- +Scott; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, Scott
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- On IRC I see hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- +hgerlach
- 14:02:26 [hgerlach]
- hi
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- +jeffs
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- Regrets: +Bryan
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- +adam
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- Regrets: +robert, +martin, +sean, +magnus, +andrew
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs, adam
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- On IRC I see manrique, achuter, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +berrueta
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs, adam, [IPcaller], berrueta
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- On IRC I see adam, manrique, achuter, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- zakim, [ipcaller] is Alan
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- +Alan; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
- 14:05:37 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs, adam, Alan, berrueta
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- On IRC I see adam, manrique, achuter, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- Scribe: Alan
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- ScribeNick: Achuter
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- zakim berrueta is me
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs, adam, Alan, berrueta
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- On IRC I see jo, achuter, adam, manrique, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- zakim, berrueta is me
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- +manrique; got it
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- zakim, code?
- 14:06:55 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
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- zakim, Alan is me
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- +achuter; got it
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- +jo
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- zakim, miguel is with me
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- +miguel; got it
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- zakim, nacho is with me
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- +nacho; got it
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- zakim, abel is with me
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- +abel; got it
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- rrsagent, pointer
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- See http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-bpwg-irc#T14-07-42
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- topic Mobile OK Pro
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- s/topic Mobile OK Pro/Topic: Mobile OK Pro
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- zakim, mute me
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- achuter was already muted, achuter
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- topic MobileOK Pro
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- No report, as Kai not present
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- This is Seungyun, sorry late join
- 14:10:03 [jo]
- s/topic MobileOK Pro//
- 14:10:30 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
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- achuter should no longer be muted
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- scribe: jo
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- topic: Introductions
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs (muted), adam, achuter, manrique, jo
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- manrique has manrique, miguel, nacho, abel
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- On IRC I see abel_, Seungyun, achuter, abel, nacho, jo, adam, manrique, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
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- +Ed_Mitukiewicz
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- dka: Scott Hughes has joined from Vodafone
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- scott: Interested in Ajax etc ...
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- topic: BP 2.0
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- dka: Adam has volunteered to join Bryan as editor and we are very grateful
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- adam: Have similar interests to Scott ...
- 14:13:03 [Kai]
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- Topic: Accessibility doc
- 14:13:30 [Kai]
- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Kai
- 14:13:44 [achuter]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20080506/mwbp-wcag20.html
- 14:13:52 [jo]
- achuter: we got in a bit of a muddle during the restructuring, but now I have got round to doing the restructure
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- +Kai_Dietrich
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- ... how Mobile Best Practices help Accessibility
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- ... should be much easier to understand, this is half of the original doc the other half is:
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- ... in another doc
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- ... [alan discusses structure of the document]
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20080506/mwbp-wcag20_helps.html
- 14:15:34 [jo]
- ... and the other half is arranged under the best practices and how they help users with disabilities
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- ... we still have WCAG1 -> Mobile to work trhough and also the WCAG2 -Yeliz is doing that
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- ... not ready for group review yet
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- dka: do we need 2 docs for this?
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- achuter: yes, they are differently structured
- 14:17:16 [jo]
- ... complexity should not be a problem though their are more pages
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- dka: as a developer, is this difficult to use?
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- achuter: there is an overview which will explain which one you should use
- 14:18:16 [jo]
- dka: is this in line with EOWG wants to do it?
- 14:18:20 [jo]
- achuter: yes
- 14:18:33 [jo]
- dka: what should we target for the F2F on this doc
- 14:19:07 [jo]
- ... should we put on the agenda ... 6 weeks till F2F ... when should we target PWD?
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- achuter: Shaun drew up a timetable which I can't find ...
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- ... [scrabble scrabble]
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-mwbp-wcag#publication
- 14:20:05 [jo]
- ... [scrabbling stops]
- 14:20:22 [jo]
- ... that link takes you to the schedule
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- ... restreucturing should have been done by 30th Apr is running 2 weeks behind
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- s/restreucturing/restructuring
- 14:21:21 [Kai]
- abel_WsP&)l WsP&)l
- 14:22:09 [jo]
- dka: like to review this for the F2F
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- -Scott
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- achuter: should be ready at the beginning of the week after next
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- +Scott
- 14:23:20 [jo]
- dka: sounds like a good plan, you won't be on call next week, if you can email before the next call after that then that would be goodf
- 14:23:27 [jo]
- s/goodf/good/
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- zakim, mute
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- I don't understand 'mute', achuter
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- zakim, mute me
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- achuter should now be muted
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- zakim, mute me
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- achuter was already muted, achuter
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- Topic: MobileOK Pro (bis)
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- Kai: we didn't get it all done ...
- 14:24:25 [DKA]
- zakim, who is here?
- 14:24:25 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see DKA, hgerlach, jeffs (muted), adam, achuter (muted), manrique, jo, Ed_Mitukiewicz, Kai_Dietrich, Scott
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- manrique has manrique, miguel, nacho, abel
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- On IRC I see abel, abel_, Kai, edm, Seungyun, achuter, nacho, jo, adam, manrique, hgerlach, jeffs, Zakim, RRSAgent, Scott, DKA, trackbot-ng, dom
- 14:24:49 [jo]
- manrique: working on the tests today so should be ready soon
- 14:25:00 [jo]
- dka: let's put time on next week's agenda then
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- ... can you publish a couple of days in advance of the call
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- kai: I won't be able to work on this stuff
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- ... next week may not happen
- 14:26:03 [jo]
- dka: let's see what happens ... and we'll ... see if the doc is in a shape to review on Thursday and if not then we'll discuss the following week
- 14:26:29 [jo]
- kai: I have to wait on Manrique and then everyone waits on me
- 14:26:39 [jo]
- ... looking for any guidance from anyone on this
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- Topic: CT Task Force Report
- 14:27:18 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
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- achuter should no longer be muted
- 14:27:23 [jo]
- scribe: achuter
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- scribe: Alan
- 14:27:37 [jo]
- scribenick: achuter
- 14:28:08 [achuter]
- Jo: Progress is slow
- 14:28:38 [achuter]
- Jo: working toward new draft. Should be ready by next week. Last call WD in time for F2F.
- 14:29:20 [achuter]
- Jo: Hope to be redy for approval of LCWD at F2F.
- 14:29:33 [achuter]
- Jo: No further news about it today.
- 14:29:50 [achuter]
- topic: BP2 document
- 14:29:54 [hgerlach]
- sorry, have to leave for the next meeting, bye
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- -hgerlach
- 14:30:35 [jo]
- issue-245?
- 14:30:35 [trackbot-ng]
- ISSUE-245 -- ADC, A Wooden Stake and Some Garlic Needed -- OPEN
- 14:30:35 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/245
- 14:31:50 [achuter]
- Long ago we decided not to define an advanced delivery context
- 14:32:20 [abel]
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- 14:32:21 [achuter]
- Dan: The idea is that if a more advanced device is detected, then exploit its capabilities
- 14:32:40 [jeffs]
- real-world ADC in common practice will slide naturally over time, and document should reflect that reality
- 14:32:53 [jo]
- q+
- 14:32:58 [DKA]
- ack jo
- 14:32:59 [achuter]
- Dan: We made that decision, but for some reason the debate has been resurrected again
- 14:33:20 [achuter]
- Dan: We made that decision, but for some reason the debate has been resurrected again
- 14:33:25 [jo]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0090.html
- 14:33:38 [jo]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: ISSUE-245 ADC goes back in coffin and close ISSUE-245
- 14:33:58 [achuter]
- Dan: Last time, in April, we didn't take a resolution because (Kai?) was not present.
- 14:34:30 [achuter]
- s/Dan: Last/Jo: Last
- 14:35:00 [jeffs]
- IMHO we are saying "find out at runtime what the client can do"
- 14:35:07 [achuter]
- Jo: Think that an ADC definition would be out of date before the ink dry.
- 14:35:40 [achuter]
- Jo: Better to think in terms of low-tier, medium and high-tier devices
- 14:36:21 [achuter]
- Jo: Idea of ADC is counter-productive to the idea of taking advantage of all capabilities a device has to offer.
- 14:36:29 [Kai]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0061.html
- 14:36:33 [jo]
- [low tier mid tier and high tier being determined by the needs of the application]
- 14:36:58 [achuter]
- Kai: Not wedded to the ADC concept, but think it is a mistake to kill it. So I will drop the idea now.
- 14:37:09 [jo]
- [not by some arbitrary categorization that makes no reference to particular application needs]
- 14:38:07 [jo]
- close ISSUE-245
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- scribe: jo
- 14:38:50 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
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- achuter should no longer be muted
- 14:38:53 [jo]
- RESOLUTION: ISSUE-245 ADC goes back in coffin and close ISSUE-245
- 14:39:03 [jo]
- scribe: achuter
- 14:39:35 [achuter]
- issue-235?
- 14:39:35 [trackbot-ng]
- ISSUE-235 -- Co Editor for Mobile Web Applications Best Practices (i.e. BP2) -- OPEN
- 14:39:35 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/235
- 14:40:34 [achuter]
- close ISSUE-235
- 14:41:01 [achuter]
- issue-246?
- 14:41:01 [trackbot-ng]
- ISSUE-246 -- Name of BP2 / Relationship to BP1 -- OPEN
- 14:41:01 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/246
- 14:41:29 [achuter]
- Jo: Has been discussed on list
- 14:41:53 [achuter]
- Jo: Agreed that it would be "BP for mobile applications"
- 14:42:43 [jeffs]
- +1
- 14:42:59 [jeffs]
- "Mobile Web Applications"
- 14:43:01 [achuter]
- s/mobile applications/mobile Web applications
- 14:43:50 [jo]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Name of BP2 remains formally speaking Best Practices for Mobile Web Applications and not BP2 because the latter would give the wrong impression about relationship with BP1 - but we will carry on calling it BP2 anyway
- 14:44:32 [jo]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Name of BP2 remains formally speaking Best Practices for Mobile Web Applications and not BP2 because the latter would give the wrong impression about relationship with BP1 - but we will carry on calling it BP2 anyway - and close ISSUE-246
- 14:45:47 [jo]
- scribe: jo
- 14:45:54 [jo]
- RESOLUTION: Name of BP2 remains formally speaking Best Practices for Mobile Web Applications and not BP2 because the latter would give the wrong impression about relationship with BP1 - but we will carry on calling it BP2 anyway - and close ISSUE-246
- 14:45:59 [jo]
- scribe: achuter
- 14:46:17 [jo]
- issue-247?
- 14:46:17 [trackbot-ng]
- ISSUE-247 -- Proposed Topics for BP2 -- OPEN
- 14:46:17 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/247
- 14:47:56 [jo]
- q+
- 14:48:06 [DKA]
- ack jo
- 14:48:08 [jeffs]
- I think we are talking about "location" and "identities" here
- 14:49:07 [edm]
- I wonder if we would mention (and elaborate) on potential uses of DCCI to deal with dynamic properties/context...
- 14:50:40 [achuter]
- ACTION: Jo to contact Tom Hume of Future Platforms about use of microformats
- 14:50:40 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-753 - Contact Tom Hume of Future Platforms about use of microformats [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-05-15].
- 14:50:41 [abel_]
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- 14:51:34 [nacho]
- zakim, who is noisy?
- 14:51:45 [Zakim]
- nacho, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DKA (52%), adam (24%), jo (23%)
- 14:52:00 [adam]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:52:00 [Zakim]
- adam should now be muted
- 14:52:01 [achuter]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:52:02 [Zakim]
- achuter should now be muted
- 14:52:45 [adam]
- It's on the HTML5 roadmap I think.
- 14:52:50 [adam]
- zakim, unmute me
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- adam should no longer be muted
- 14:54:04 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
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- achuter should no longer be muted
- 14:54:05 [jeffs]
- given this doc is in the mobile context, it seems important that we address location issues
- 14:54:24 [achuter]
- scribe: achuter
- 14:55:19 [achuter]
- Adam: Google Gears API HTML 5
- 14:56:00 [achuter]
- Dan: Upcoming versions of browsers should have it as they are geared up for HTML 5
- 14:56:12 [achuter]
- [about location]
- 14:56:30 [achuter]
- ACTION: Adam to get back to teh group with text about location
- 14:56:30 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-754 - Get back to teh group with text about location [on Adam Connors - due 2008-05-15].
- 14:56:38 [DKA]
- q?
- 14:56:51 [adam]
- zakim, mute me
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- adam should now be muted
- 14:56:56 [jeffs]
- agree identity sep
- 14:57:22 [DKA]
- zakim, unmute jeffs
- 14:57:23 [Zakim]
- jeffs was not muted, DKA
- 14:58:04 [achuter]
- Jeffs: Need to address identity and location in this document
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- 14:59:34 [achuter]
- Dan: concerened about the scope of the document, as these are such complex issues
- 14:59:45 [jeffs]
- issue would be my suggestion
- 15:00:04 [achuter]
- s/concerened/concerned
- 15:00:12 [jo]
- Regrets: Rob, Martin, SeanP
- 15:00:37 [achuter]
- Ed: Suggest dynamic properties. Supported in common browser.
- 15:00:42 [jo]
- q+ to ask whether this is current good practice?
- 15:01:20 [achuter]
- Jo: If there are no other implementations can not be best practice.
- 15:01:27 [achuter]
- Ed: There is another
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- 15:03:19 [Kai]
- Are we loosening the meaning of "best practice"?
- 15:03:50 [DKA]
- q?
- 15:03:56 [DKA]
- ack jo
- 15:03:57 [Zakim]
- jo, you wanted to ask whether this is current good practice?
- 15:04:06 [adam]
- zakim, unmute me
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- adam should no longer be muted
- 15:04:10 [adam]
- q+
- 15:04:15 [DKA]
- ack adam
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- abel has left #bpwg
- 15:07:08 [adam]
- zakim, unmute me
- 15:07:09 [Zakim]
- adam was not muted, adam
- 15:07:35 [achuter]
- Dan: would like to wait until Bryan is here
- 15:07:59 [jo]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:07:59 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-bpwg-minutes.html jo
- 15:08:17 [achuter]
- Adam: Persistent storage. What happens when installing.
- 15:08:43 [achuter]
- Adam: Cases where content is HTML+CSS but still has install step.
- 15:09:02 [achuter]
- Adam: Looks like Bryan has removed section on declaring install size.
- 15:09:28 [jeffs]
- given widgets are based on the same techs (html/css/javascript-based) as browser-based thingies and operate in same context (mobile), seems to me they fit here
- 15:10:24 [achuter]
- Dan: While we discussed widgets in Seoul, but decided there were too many platforms to be able to write BPs
- 15:10:38 [achuter]
- Dan: But can cover use of individual technologies.
- 15:11:03 [achuter]
- Dan: Can talk about it when Bryan is back, maybe next week.
- 15:11:16 [jo]
- chair: DKA
- 15:11:22 [edm]
- logistics for next f2f?
- 15:11:50 [jo]
- Topic: Logisitics for F2F
- 15:12:13 [Zakim]
- -jeffs
- 15:12:45 [Kai]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Meetings/Sophia/logistics.html
- 15:13:52 [achuter]
- Dan: Logisitcs for next F2F
- 15:14:16 [achuter]
- Dan: François is putting together an email with logistics
- 15:15:19 [achuter]
- Dan: Two and half days or three?
- 15:16:16 [Zakim]
- -DKA
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- -Kai_Dietrich
- 15:16:18 [Zakim]
- -adam
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- -jo
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- -Scott
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- -Ed_Mitukiewicz
- 15:16:27 [Zakim]
- -manrique
- 15:16:28 [Zakim]
- -achuter
- 15:16:29 [Zakim]
- MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
- 15:16:29 [DKA]
- trackbot-ng, make log minutes something whatever
- 15:16:30 [Zakim]
- Attendees were DKA, Scott, hgerlach, jeffs, adam, manrique, achuter, jo, miguel, nacho, abel, Ed_Mitukiewicz, Kai_Dietrich
- 15:16:33 [Scott]
- bye
- 15:16:40 [nacho_]
- bye everyone
- 15:16:46 [jo]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 15:16:53 [Scott]
- Scott has left #bpwg
- 15:16:53 [jo]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 15:16:53 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-bpwg-minutes.html jo
- 15:19:06 [nacho_]
- nacho_ has left #bpwg
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- Zakim has left #bpwg