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14:54:53 <Ashok> meeting RDB2RDF 2008-4-18
14:55:16 <Ashok>  meeting: RDB2RDF 2008-4-18
14:55:36 <Ashok> chair: Ashok
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15:02:31 <AxelPolleres> no zakim????
15:02:36 <Ashok> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:02:36 <Zakim> sorry, Ashok, I don't know what conference this is
15:02:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see lma, AxelPolleres, whalb, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, MacTed, iv_an_ru
15:02:51 <Ashok> zakim, this is rdb2rdf
15:02:51 <Zakim> ok, Ashok; that matches INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM
15:02:58 <Zakim> +DOrchard
15:03:29 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aabb
15:04:11 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aadd
15:04:59 <Zakim> +??P16
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15:06:12 <Zakim> + +1.817.357.aaee
15:06:34 <Zakim> + +1.408.285.aaff
15:08:24 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is speaking?
15:08:34 <Zakim> AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ashok_Malhotra (54%), ??P6 (5%), +1.937.775.aadd (25%)
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15:10:32 <AxelPolleres> Ashok, are you calling over IP? you have a suboptimal connection it seems.
15:11:49 <Ashok> scribenick: Ashok
15:12:35 <AxelPolleres> shall I scribe again? you might find it difficult to moderate & scribe?
15:12:55 <Ashok> Thank yoiu Axel!
15:13:00 <AxelPolleres> scribenick: AxelPolleres
15:13:06 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Axel Polleres
15:13:12 <Ashok> scribenick: AxelPolleres
15:13:39 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: next week difficult, many people non-available, many people at WWW in Beijing.
15:14:08 <AxelPolleres> ... I may not be able to join, someone shall moderate the meeting as backup. Volunteers?
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15:14:46 <AxelPolleres> TOPIC: Face-2-Face
15:15:32 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: We can maybe meet during technical plenary.
15:16:00 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
15:16:35 <Zakim> +??P6
15:16:52 <Ashok> Wolfgang -- we can host Oct 27, 28, 29
15:17:21 <Ashok> Or possibly 15, 16, 17 October?
15:17:33 <AxelPolleres> Wolfgang: we can host Oct 27, 28, 29 around ISWC
15:17:48 <AxelPolleres> ...  Or possibly 15, 16, 17 October?
15:18:43 <AxelPolleres> Wolfgang: we can send out possible dates.
15:19:26 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: Other offer mid may meeting in San Jose. Offered by HP. Co-located with SemTech
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15:20:59 <AxelPolleres> ???: conference is 18-22.
15:21:17 <AxelPolleres> Wolfgang: Michael and me won't be able to join then.
15:21:37 <AxelPolleres> Axel: for me also difficult before seconfd half of June.
15:22:27 <AxelPolleres> ... ESWC beginning of June could also be an option? http://www.eswc2008.org
15:23:14 <AxelPolleres> ... I can ask.
15:23:47 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: I can ask Oracle or IBM to host.
15:25:26 <AxelPolleres> ... Why don't we collect mails with possible with proposals?
15:25:40 <AxelPolleres> Axel: We could also use a wiki page.
15:26:17 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: let's start by people sending in possible locations and then we collect preferences by a questionnaire or on a wiki page, whichever is easier.
15:26:37 <AxelPolleres> Topic: Literature survey
15:26:51 <juansequeda> We would be able to host a F2F at The University of Texas at Austin. It is a midpoint int the US
15:26:54 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: Satya and wolfgang started to collect input.
15:27:17 <juansequeda> sorry for not being on the phone. I just got the invited expert acceptance and I called in quickly from my cellphone and it died
15:28:32 <AxelPolleres> Wolfgang: we collected input on a wiki page and structured it http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt/
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15:28:49 <AxelPolleres> ... everybody is encouraged to add info!
15:29:47 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: I was looking for a bit more. Can you work out basic principles/ideas/directions of how we should go forward?
15:29:58 <AxelPolleres> Satya: we try to classify the approaches.
15:30:22 <AxelPolleres> ... we already have a preliminary table of criteria.
15:30:37 <AxelPolleres> Wolfgang: will take at least a week more.
15:30:48 <AxelPolleres> ... in two weeks we should havve most of it.
15:31:20 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: That is about all we have today.
15:31:43 <AxelPolleres> ...  I wanted to get a technical presentation for next time.
15:32:50 <AxelPolleres> ... I asked Catherine Dolbear for next week.
15:33:02 <AxelPolleres> ... Orri in two weeks.
15:33:40 <AxelPolleres> Catherine: maybe I will not be able to present, but Jenny.
15:34:32 <Zakim> + +1.817.357.aagg
15:34:35 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to ask Richard whether he can give a presentation on D2R
15:35:12 <AxelPolleres> KAte: I sent a question to the list, but it didn't get through.
15:35:29 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: yes it was an essay, but it was bounced.
15:35:43 <AxelPolleres> ... cna you try to send again and cc: me personally?
15:35:53 <AxelPolleres> Ashok: AOB?
15:36:00 <Zakim> -DOrchard
15:36:01 <Zakim> - +0238033aacc
15:36:01 <Zakim> - +1.408.285.aaff
15:36:03 <Zakim> -Andrew_Eisenberg
15:36:06 <Zakim> - +00436991238aaaa
15:36:06 <AxelPolleres> adjourning...
15:36:08 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
15:36:11 <Zakim> -??P16
15:36:14 <Zakim> -[IBM_Watson]
15:36:16 <Zakim> - +1.817.357.aagg
15:36:21 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aadd
15:36:29 <AxelPolleres> Ashok, still there?
15:36:40 <Ashok> Yes, on IRC
15:36:52 <Ashok> Should I dial back in?
15:36:55 <AxelPolleres> How again can I convince RRSAgent to create the minutes and ask who where the attendees?
15:37:12 <Ashok> I will add the attendees
15:37:14 <AxelPolleres> RRSAgent, create minutes
15:37:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/18-RDB2RDF-minutes.html AxelPolleres
15:37:16 <Zakim> ... +1.817.357.aaee, +1.408.285.aaff, AxelPolleres, +1.817.357.aagg
15:37:39 <Ashok> Thank you, Axel
15:37:54 <juansequeda> Alex, are you still there?
15:37:58 <AxelPolleres> THat's weird
15:37:58 <Ashok> I will edit minutes and send them out
15:38:07 <AxelPolleres> when I type:   http://www.w3.org/2008/04/18-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
15:38:09 <Ashok> Hi Juan ... Welcome!
15:38:12 <AxelPolleres> I get:
15:38:22 <AxelPolleres> Sorry, Insufficient Access Privileges
15:38:29 <juansequeda> is there a wiki where people are posting the proposal places for the f2f?
15:38:36 <AxelPolleres> Can you access them?
15:38:39 <Ashok> rrsagent, make logs public
15:38:41 <AxelPolleres> from that URL?
15:38:53 <Ashok> rrsagent, create minutes
15:38:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/18-RDB2RDF-minutes.html Ashok
15:39:05 <AxelPolleres> otherwise, I can maybe save the IRC-log in my client... but it doesn't look that nice ;-)
15:39:12 <Ashok> OK, now it works
15:39:23 <AxelPolleres> ah, now it works!
15:39:43 <AxelPolleres> One more thing, which I already noticed ladst time:
15:40:08 <AxelPolleres> the list of attendees should be generated automatically in the draft minutes, but it doesn't seem to work.
15:40:37 <AxelPolleres> ok, so no more actions for me in context with the meinutes? you will take them from the URL?
15:40:50 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
15:40:51 <Zakim> INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has ended
15:40:53 <Zakim> Attendees were +00436991238aaaa, [IBM_Watson], Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, +1.937.775.aabb, +0238033aacc, DOrchard, +1.937.775.aadd, +1.817.357.aaee, +1.408.285.aaff,
15:40:55 <Zakim> ... AxelPolleres, +1.817.357.aagg
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