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14:59:44 <Ashok> chair: Ashok
15:04:24 <Ashok> zakim, whi is on the phone?
15:04:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Ashok.
15:04:37 <Ashok> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:37 <Zakim> sorry, Ashok, I don't know what conference this is
15:04:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, ssahoo2, chimezie, whalb, MacTed, iv_an_ru
15:08:44 <Ashok> scribenick: chimezie
15:11:15 <Ashok> RESOLVED:  Accept lat week's minutes -- add Ahmed to the Roll
15:11:24 <Ashok> s/lat/last/
15:12:51 <chimezie> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Apr/att-0003/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html Last Weeks Minutes
15:13:09 <chimezie> Wolfgang: micheal proposed to have f2f is iswc in October
15:13:45 <chimezie> speaker: the date might be too late
15:14:12 <chimezie> Ashok: willing to host before or after the conference
15:14:21 <chimezie> wolfgang: could be arranged
15:14:46 <chimezie> Ashok: I might have difficulty before but should be okay doing it afterwards
15:14:53 <chimezie> ... could you get back that to us on this?
15:15:06 <chimezie> speaker: how about STC '07 in May in San Jose
15:15:32 <chimezie> Ashok: we could possibly do both 
15:16:09 <chimezie> ... dates are May 18 - 22nd
15:16:22 <chimezie> DavidOrchard: will not be available, but that shouldn't hold up that as an option
15:16:48 <chimezie> Ahmed: will investigate if we can host and confirm the dates
15:16:57 <chimezie> s/speaker/Ahmed
15:17:04 <chimezie> Ashok: we now have a wiki
15:17:11 <Ashok> Wiki: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG
15:17:20 <ssahoo2> URL for the presentation: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=RDB2RDF-Knoesis.pps
15:18:00 <chimezie> Ashok: there was a request to do a state of the art or literature survey
15:18:12 <chimezie> ... this is what we are supposed to be doing
15:18:36 <chimezie> [ agreement that we should do this ]
15:18:54 <chimezie> Ashok: we need volunteers
15:19:30 <chimezie> ssahoo2: i'll volunteer
15:20:12 <chimezie> Wolfgang: i'll volunteer as well
15:20:39 <chimezie> DavidOrchard: will this go on the wiki?
15:20:41 <chimezie> Ashok: yes
15:22:48 <ssahoo2> URL for the presentation: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=RDB2RDF-Knoesis.pps
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15:25:04 <chimezie> ssahoo2: in biomedical domain. large dataset (entrez genes)
15:25:43 <chimezie> ... two approaches (one without an ontology and another without)
15:26:58 <chimezie> Ashok: was OWL used as well?
15:27:13 <chimezie> ssahoo2: in the first case, OWL was not used
15:28:32 <chimezie> ... on Entrez gene screens, implicit relationships are shown
15:29:04 <chimezie> Ashok: where did you specify what you were looking for
15:29:22 <chimezie> ssahoo2: each gene corresponds to a record in the DB
15:30:35 <chimezie> ssahoo2: we are trying to model the relationships explicitely in RDF
15:30:50 <chimezie> ... we started with the XML representation of the source data
15:32:19 <chimezie> ... a very large XML file
15:33:16 <chimezie> ... starting from the XML representation made the mapping effort much easier than via SQL calls against the original database
15:34:52 <chimezie> ssahoo2: the data was from 2 database and we were able to use named entities to make the links
15:35:11 <chimezie> DavidOrchard: were these new relationship or previously known?
15:39:57 <chimezie> ssahoo2: in method 2, the instances extracted conform to a created OWL-DL model for the data source
15:40:22 <chimezie> ... it spanned information model and domain concepts
15:40:54 <chimezie> Ashok: how were the connections made (via what analysis)?
15:41:08 <chimezie> ssahoo2: the diagram demonstrates the result of a query (SPARQL)
15:41:27 <chimezie> ... then some post-processing was done to derive the diagram
15:43:23 <chimezie> ssahoo2: this was an application-driven approach
15:44:49 <chimezie> Ashok: you were able to get pretty good performance from the queries dispatched on the dataset?
15:45:35 <chimezie> ssahoo2: yes
15:46:03 <chimezie> ssahoo2: in the first method, inference was used
15:46:14 <chimezie> ... in the second case inferencing was not used
15:46:30 <chimezie> Jenni: what is the next step?
15:46:41 <chimezie> ssahoo2: we have started work on integrating uniprot data
15:46:54 <chimezie> ... requires extending the ECOM schema
15:47:18 <chimezie> Jenni: what is the current usage pattern
15:47:29 <chimezie> ssahoo2: we gave the result back to the biological researchers
15:47:44 <chimezie> ... after confirmation we will make this available for their queries, however they are not familiar with SPARQL
15:48:21 <chimezie> ssahoo2: creating the XSLT was a recursive process (10 days initially)
15:50:14 <chimezie> speaker: did the dataset change much and was subsequent work needed to hange the XSLT?
15:50:49 <chimezie> ssahoo2: not much work was needed beyond the original formulation of the XSLT
15:51:35 <Ashok> Question was from Orri Erling
15:52:09 <chimezie> Orri: I would like to reserve a slot to speak 2 weeks hence
15:53:46 <whalb> wolfgang.halb@joanneum.at
15:54:13 <chimezie> Meeting: Second meeting for RDB2RDF
15:54:36 <chimezie> rssagent, create the minutes
15:54:37 <Ashok> rrsagent, make logs public
15:55:01 <Ashok> Chimezie,  thank you for taking minutes!
15:55:06 <chimezie> no problem :)
15:55:09 <ssahoo2> Chemezie could you please use satya instead of ssahoo?
15:55:22 <chimezie> will do.  sorry about that
15:55:23 <ssahoo2> for the minutes - thanks:)
15:55:45 <chimezie> s/ssahoo2/satya
15:56:21 <ssahoo2> just satya or satyasahoo
15:56:28 <chimezie> okay
15:56:33 <ssahoo2> thanks
15:56:53 <ssahoo2> bye
15:57:06 <Ashok> rrsagent, create minutes
15:57:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html Ashok
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17:16:37 <chimezie> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:16:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html chimezie