W3C

RDF-in-XHTML Task Force

31 Jan 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2008-01-24

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Ben Adida, Manu Sporny, Mark Birbeck, Shane McCarron
Regrets
Michael Hausenblas
Chair
Ben
Scribe
Ralph

Contents


Manu: 3 test cases that need to be reviewed and 2 old ones (34 and 38) need to be updated

Action Review

<benadida> ActionSummary

ACTION: Ben to update tracker with todays resolutions. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

Ralph: The SWD WG asked me to confirm that the Syntax WD we just handed over is our Last Call candidate

Ben: we can still tweak it based on review comments

Mark: there are some corrections
... e.g. a glaring omission in the processing rules where I forgot to set the parent node

Ralph: just make sure there's an email trail for any technical changes
... SWD WG plans to have the Last Call resolution on the agenda for the 12 Feb telecon

Ben: I'm away for 12 and 19 Feb

Manu: I'll try to make it to the 12-Feb SWD WG telecon

Ralph: the SWD chairs also want to remind the XHTML2 WG to make the same Last Call transition resolution

Mark: we'd planned for 2 weeks in XHTML2 WG
... we plan to vote before 12 Feb
... oops, Steven and I will miss next week's XHTML2 WG meeting
... I'll discuss with Shane

Test Cases

<msporny> rdfa-test-harness

-- test 34 (simple img[@src])

-> Mark's comments on test 34

<benadida> Mark wrote:

<benadida> <div about="http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i" rel="foaf:img">

<benadida> <img src="http://sw-app.org/img/mic_2007_01.jpg"

<benadida> alt="A photo depicting Michael" />

<benadida> </div>

<msporny> <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> foaf:img <http://sw-app.org/img/mic_2007_01.jpg>

Manu: we agree this triple is the intended triple with Mark's revised markup?
... the test was using @src as the @rel target

RESOLUTION: test 34 triple to be updated as Manu indicated

-- test 38; @rev - img[@src]

Ben: looks pretty much the same
... Hey! I haven't really thought through a hanging @rev issue :)

Mark: it'll keep you awake :)

<msporny> <div about="http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i" rev="foaf:depicts">

<msporny> <img src="http://sw-app.org/img/mic_2007_01.jpg"

<msporny> alt="A photo depicting Michael" />

<msporny> </div>

<msporny> <http://sw-app.org/img/mic_2007_01.jpg> foaf:depicts <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>

RESOLUTION: correct test 38 markup per Manu's typescript

Mark: we need some new tests
... we changed these tests in one way; to move @about to DIV
... we need 2 new tests to test @src as subject

ACTION: Manu write 2 new tests for img[@src] as subject [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

-- test 73; Relative URI in @resource (with XHTML base in head)

Manu: test 73 gives the creator of the document using @base

Ben: but @base changes the default subject
... note that the N3 and RDF are currently correct

Ralph: so let's keep this test for exactly that reason and make a new one
... unless we already have tests that show @about overriding @base

<msporny> ASK WHERE {

<msporny> <http://www.example.org/> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> <http://www.example.org/jane> .

Ben: test 74 is the same with @href

RESOLUTION: Test 73 approved with correction to SPARQL

-- test 74; Relative URI in @href (with XHTML base in head)

RESOLUTION: Test 74 approved with correction to SPARQL

-- test 75; Reserved word 'license' in @rel with no explizit @about

Manu: the N3 and RDF have been generated from Ivan's pyrdf so they're not up to date

<msporny> ASK WHERE {

<msporny> <http://www.example.org/> <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#license> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/> .

<msporny> }

RESOLUTION: Test 75 approved with correction to SPARQL

Manu: there were questions about tests 63 and 66
... were changes proposed?

[Shane joins]

Mark: I was explaining the current rules to Ivan
... I agree 63 is still fine
... test 66 is fine but the document doesn't fully explain @about="" and I need to fix this
... are people really happy with test 66?
... I'm not sure people's expectations are matched

Ben: let's stick with our decision

Mark: it's a corner case anyway
... [considering the interpretation if we hadn't made @about="" the default in HEAD]

-> RDFa issues tracker

ACTION: Ralph ask if tracker can also track public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

Ben: I still have the open action to update tracker

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Manu write 2 new tests for img[@src] as subject [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph ask if tracker can also track public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to update tracker with todays resolutions. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
 
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