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Teleconference.2007.11.07/Minutes
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Contents
- Present
- Achille Fokoue, Alan Ruttenberg, Bijan Parsia, Boris Motik, Carsten Lutz, Carsten Lutz, Conrad Bock, Doug Lenat, Elisa Kendall, Evan Wallace, Fabian Neuhaus, Fabien Gandon, Giorgos Stoilos, Ivan Herman, Jeremy Carroll, Martin Dzbor, Michael Smith, Peter Patel-Schneider, Ratnesh Sahay, Rinke Hoekstra, Uli Sattler, Zhe Wu
- Regrets
- Jim Hendler, Sandro Hawke
- Chair
- Alan Ruttenberg, Ian Horrocks
- Scribe
- Achille Fokoue
Previous Minutes
PROPOSED: Accept the previous minutes
RESOLUTION: minutes accepted
Action item status
Action 4: Send email reminding people to make wiki account (Continued)
Action 5: Sandro to migration of documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action01]
Continued, because the figures from the syntax document still need to be moved over
Issues
Issue 2 No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping
Ian Horrocks: do new properties affect backward compatibility
Alan Ruttenberg: the assumption that there will not be a lot of disjoint is not correct
Ian Horrocks: AllDisjoint does not necessary have a negative impact on implementations
Ian Horrocks: should we make the change in the docs for AllDisjoint
RESOLUTION: Issue 2 AllDisjoint will be added in the docs (modified later)
RESOLUTION: AllDisjoint will be added to the functional syntax and the RDF mapping
Issue 3 (anonymous individuals)
Jeremy Carroll: no anonymous individual in owl 1.1. Is it a bug?
Peter Patel-Schneider: is a bug
Carsten Lutz: related to having a universal property. should we consider adding universal property?
Carsten Lutz: it will allow anonymous individuals
Carsten Lutz: Universal property is more general. It will make anonymous individuals a special case
Boris Motik: arbitrary anonymous individuals could yield to undecideability
Ian Horrocks: we will not be able to resolve it now ... we should continue on emails
Action 11: Boris to send an email on issue 3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action03]
Issue 11 and Issue 28 (datatype facets)
Peter Patel-Schneider: I thought the issue was about the XML serialization
Ian Horrocks: let's move on since we do not understand it
Ian Horrocks: Let's nominate someone to start an email discussion
Boris Motik: it is about having multiple facets.
Boris Motik: we should add them it was a bug in the XML Schema ... no problem either for issue 28
Action 10: Boris to send an email about issue 11 fixed and how to fix issue 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action04]
Issue 13 and 14 (quotation and CURIES)
RESOLVED: Resolved issue 13 by adopting quotation from turtle (\). Resolve 14 by adopting SPARQL syntax for extended qnames. (with checkin one written into the spec)
Second F2F
Ian Horrocks: let's talk about the second f2f
Peter Patel-Schneider: collocate the 2nd f2f with OWLED
Peter Patel-Schneider: Proposed date 1,2,3,4 of April 2008
Ian Horrocks: online poll should be done
Peter Patel-Schneider: any objections for the date?
Ivan Herman: would be happy to help with hosting it in China
... if the group decides to do it in China, we can do it
Peter Patel-Schneider: we also need time to do publicity
Bijan Parsia: please add your name in http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Manchester_F2F f2f if you are coming to the first f2f
Action 12: pfps to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action05]
Action 13: ianh to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action06]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Boris to send an email about issue 11 fixed and how to fix issue 28 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Boris to send an email on issue 3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: ianh to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: pfps to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: 6 to [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]