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18:59:01 <ginny> zakim, ??P1 is me
18:59:01 <Zakim> +ginny; got it
18:59:21 <Zakim> +Jim
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19:03:01 <Jim> Chair: John
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19:03:24 <pratul> Zakim, Microsoft is me
19:03:24 <Zakim> +pratul; got it
19:03:31 <johnarwe> zakim, who's here?
19:03:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see ginny, Jim, ??P5, Jordan, Kirk, pratul
19:03:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see pratul, johnarwe, Kirk, Jordan, RRSAgent, Zakim, Sandy, ginny, Jim, trackbot-ng
19:03:39 <johnarwe> zakim, ??P5 is me
19:03:40 <Zakim> +johnarwe; got it
19:03:44 <Zakim> +Sandy
19:08:51 <Jim> Topic: Approval of minutes from 8 Nov
19:09:03 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:09:16 <Jim> Resolution: 8 Nov minutes approved
19:09:47 <Jim> Topic: Upcoming Meetings
19:10:19 <Jim> Schedule remains unchanged.
19:12:10 <Jim> Topic: FYI from CG on XML 1.0
19:12:43 <Jim> John: Don't believe this affects us directly.
19:13:39 <Jim> CG will issue proposal to modigy XML 1.0 with an erratum allowing XML 1.1 names and characters to be valid.
19:14:49 <Jim> Topic: Review bugs with no keywords
19:15:34 <Zakim> +Zulah_Eckert
19:16:28 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4775
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19:17:53 <Jim> Resolution: Removing dependencies, accepting Kumar's proposal (#2), and moving to editorial.
19:18:12 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4894
19:23:12 <Jim> Resolution: Accept proposal in Comment #3 and mark as editorial.
19:23:24 <Jim> Topic: Bug 5421
19:25:17 <Jim> s/5421/5241/
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19:27:25 <Jim> Resolution: Accept proposal with URI changed to URI-reference and in 2a say 'scheme instance is unresolved'. Mark as editorial.
19:27:40 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4994
19:29:53 <Jim> Resolution: Change to Won't Fix.
19:30:08 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4992
19:42:36 <johnarwe> zakim, who is making noise?
19:42:46 <Zakim> johnarwe, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: pratul (9%), Sandy (34%), [Microsoft] (56%)
19:47:07 <Jim> Still not settled on proposals in Comment #6 and #5. Will continue discussion in email .
19:47:22 <Jim> Topic: Bug 5247
19:52:11 <Jim> This Bug relates to Bug 5047 where it is allowed for <data> to have no content.
19:53:59 <Jim> Kumar: Changing this to disallow this case requires an implementation change for me.
19:56:22 <Zakim> + +1.416.386.aaaa
19:58:53 <johnarwe> current def: The SML-IF interchange set is the set of documents that constitute the SML model to be interchanged.
20:00:18 <Jim> Proposal: Leave things as they are but add clarification on its use. If metadata is empty then it is not part of the document.
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20:11:02 <Jim> Resolution: Agreed to empty <data> element. Mark as editorial, needsReview. Kumar will take this and create appropriate wording.
20:14:42 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4788
20:23:40 <Jim> Resolution: This Bug can be changed to Fixed as is.
20:24:36 <Jim> Action: Jim to open similar Bug for SML-IF.
20:24:36 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jim
20:25:57 <Jim> Action 1 = James to open similar Bug for SML-IF.
20:36:35 <Jim> Topic: Bug 5069
20:37:09 <Jim> s/5069/5095
20:40:51 <Jim> Resolution: Mark as Fixed.
20:43:26 <Jim> Topic: Bug 4675
20:44:52 <Jim> Levels of conformance are on the document not the producer or consumer.
20:45:20 <Jim> Ginny: Is a conformant producer one which produces a level 1 document?
20:45:42 <Sandy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Oct/0261.html
20:46:12 <Sandy> - All producers MUST be able to produce IF documents using URI scheme  
20:46:12 <Sandy> - All consumers MUST be able to process IF documents using URI scheme  
20:46:12 <Sandy> - IF documents using URI scheme for all SML references (and satisfy all  
20:46:12 <Sandy> other IF requirements) are level 2 conformant  
20:46:12 <Sandy> - IF documents containing at least one SML reference that doesn't use URI  
20:46:13 <Sandy> scheme (and satisfy all other IF requirements) are level 1 conformant 
20:47:49 <Jim> Will edit according to the wording above, adding that this is for non-null references only.
20:52:36 <Jim> Topic: Bug 5024
20:54:01 <Jim> Will review offline due to extensive nature of changes.
21:00:20 <Jim> Action: James to open bug for use of URI scheme term to be changed to SML URI scheme.
21:00:20 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-153 - Open bug for use of URI scheme term to be changed to SML URI scheme. [on James Lynn - due 2007-11-22].
21:01:20 <Zakim> -pratul
21:01:21 <Jim> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:01:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-sml-minutes.html Jim
21:01:21 <Zakim> -Zulah_Eckert
21:01:22 <Zakim> -Sandy
21:01:24 <Zakim> -Jordan
21:01:24 <Zakim> -ginny
21:01:25 <Zakim> -johnarwe
21:01:26 <Zakim> - +1.416.386.aaaa
21:01:26 <Zakim> -Kirk
21:01:28 <Zakim> -Jim
21:01:30 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
21:01:31 <Zakim> XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
21:01:33 <Zakim> Attendees were ginny, Jim, Jordan, Kirk, pratul, johnarwe, Sandy, [Microsoft], Zulah_Eckert, +1.416.386.aaaa
21:02:14 <johnarwe> rrsagent, make minutes public
21:02:14 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', johnarwe.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
21:02:25 <Jim> already done
21:02:48 <Jim> or at least I thought so
21:03:43 <Jim> that's what I'm getting
21:03:56 <Sandy> rrsagent, make log public
21:04:23 <Sandy> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:04:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-sml-minutes.html Sandy
21:04:42 <Jim> They are there now.
21:38:33 <Jim> They are there now.
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