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dan: charter 2 has been approved, when do we start running the new charter?
jo: we are already running under new charter.
dan: referring to dominiques
email.
... in order to remain in the group your rep must renominate
you.
... jo and dan will write follow up email to remain reps to
renominate.
<jo> ACTION: Dan to work with Jo and Mike to figure out rejoining the group under new charter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-573 - Work with Jo and Mike to figure out rejoining the group under new charter [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2007-10-11].
dan: as part of new charter we should make our member page public, etc.
jo: ed has an action on working our which parts need to be made public.
<jo> Ed's Action on Public vs Private
dan: reminds that we will be
running in public from now on, please be aware.
... Don't expect this to significantly affect how we work.
jo: we don't have one.
dan: We said we would have one.
Have had requests. Tabled until next F2F meeting.
... Looking for who will chair the HTML5 taskforce.
jo: Put this on the agenda for the F2F to reinvigorate it.
Dan: Went very well, workshop
report coming out soon. Will be published to the W3C page for
the workshop.
... What can we take out of the report and minutes which could
inform our work around rich mobile applications?
... Definitely some call for best-practices in this area. e.g.
Scripting usage.
Sean: Thought it was a good
workshop, but not much feedback on Content
Transformation.
... Basic scripting thing makes sense to me.
Dan: Also take a look at CSS that works across a range of browsers.
Shah: Interesting discussions
around device-side APIs. Enough +1s to doing some BP work
around this area, but no specific suggestions.
... John Ferraiolo's paper indicated that Open Ajax Alliance also
interested in this area so we should coordinate with
them.
... We need to define our "deep-dive" areas because the field
is broad.
Dan: Need to find consensus on what to look at. Suggests getting a lot of ideas on the table and whittling down.
adam: asking about BP ajax to improve performance.
<SeanPatterson> Adam,, you've got the quotes from Sean and Shah reversed.
Dan: Is a possible candidate...
There was a presentation on Google Gears, but not clear whether
we will address that or not because not currently supported on
mobile devices.
... Answers won't come from workshop, but use workshop to
inform our own prioritisations and discussions.
... OAA also wants to do some work in that space. Lets make
sure that there's alignment between the two groups.
Jo: Can we address: MobileOK stuff, and Content Transformation Problem Statement document afterwards.
Dan: We have a draft proposal for the F2F agenda...
<jo> Jo's suggested topics for F2F
I'm afraid I can't hear Dan very well anymore.
Dan: Item 2 on agenda, CT
taskforce.
... Would like to agree output form TF at F2F.
Jo: Aim to progress guidelines to
first public working draft.
... We won't have guidelines in time for the publication
moratorium (next week), but we could public first working draft
in the week following the F2F... And we'll need a resolution to
do that.
Dan: We don't need a group resolution before the F2F then?
Jo: Hoping to get agreement from group to request... But haven't published this to group yet.
Dan: We need to make request by
Thursday 11th.
... So we should make sure we get agreement to do this at next
Thurday's meeting.
Jo: Will send a pointer to the document to the whole group before then.
Dan: Where will we be with checker taskforce by F2F
Jo: We'll be at Beta.
Dan: We should schedule a demo of Checker. And try and get a lightening talk at technical plenary.
Jo: Lightning talk decision is up to Sean.
Dan: Will look into whether
that's a possibility.
... Accessibility Taskforce.
Jo: Will be at first public working draft.
Dan: Item 8 (charter 2 timescales and del) -- hoping that we can also brainstorm things that could go into the phase 2 bp document.
Jo: Agreed.
Dan: Adding brainstorm phase 2 bp document to the agenda.
adam: won't be able to attend, will there be other opportunities to contribute?
Dan: Yes. Will be ongoing
discussion, and also possible to IRC / call into meeting.
... Next face-to-face: week of 3rd March is best week for Seoul
F2F has been proposed.
Jo: Need to fix on this and get
some input on who will attend.
... Opened poll yesterday.
... Definitely will visit Seoul for liaison but a lot of people
can't come then we might have to have a separate F2F
<jo> Action on poll
<jo> ACTION: DKA to edit the poll re attendance at spring 2008 F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - DKA
Jo: People won't have had time to review now, so just sent it out for next week.
<edm> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/ProblemStatement/071002
Dan: AOB?
... Asking Ed about the public/private question?
Ed: Will summarise from the minutes our agreement and send it out.
Dan: Discussion included requirement for a members list mainly for logistical discussion.
Jo: Essence of last week’s conversation was: Charter 1 remains private since it happened under charter 1. But starting afresh now.
Ed: Asks about the F2F agenda, to discuss impact of Ajax workshop?
Dan: Yes, on F2F agenda is to brainstorm what's in the group's remit, and the Ajax workshop will form the basis for that.
<jo> BPWG Page
Dan: AOB?
Jo: Mobile-OK LC-3
... Outstanding issue on question of accept header point... We
need to make a resolution at some point as discussed on email
that document won't be updated.
Dan: Need to ask Mike to get
those comments into the comment tracker.
... Will add this to next week's agenda.
... AOB?
<jo> [thanks for scribing Adam!]
<edm> bye