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13:57:26 <YvesS> zakim, who is here?
13:57:26 <Zakim> sorry, YvesS, I don't know what conference this is
13:57:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS, trackbot-ng
13:57:42 <fsasaki> zakim, this will be i18n
13:57:42 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:58:22 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
13:58:39 <fsasaki> Meeting: i18n ITS WG
13:58:40 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
13:58:43 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:58:53 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
13:59:23 <YvesS> Hi felix. We have regrets from Jirka (out to a training session I thing)
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13:59:39 <YvesS> s/thing/think/
13:59:41 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0023.html
13:59:48 <fsasaki> Hi Yves, thanks for the notice
13:59:49 <bbogacki> Hi Guys!
14:00:04 <YvesS> Hello Bartosz
14:00:07 <fsasaki> Hi Bartosz
14:00:47 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
14:00:54 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
14:01:23 <Zakim> +Felix
14:02:00 <Zakim> + +40.34.648.aaaa
14:02:02 <Zakim> +ChriLi
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14:02:52 <fsasaki> topic: welcome bartosz
14:02:55 <fsasaki> Yves: welcome!
14:03:04 <fsasaki> Bartosz: workiong for XMLINTL
14:03:16 <fsasaki> .. mainly doing software engineering
14:03:45 <fsasaki> .. working on my PHD
14:04:35 <fsasaki> Yves: meeting is very informal, please don't heasitate to ask
14:04:57 <fsasaki> topic: Action items
14:05:03 <fsasaki> new tool for AIs at http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions/open
14:05:45 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions
14:08:08 <fsasaki> Action-1 due now to 30 Aug
14:08:33 <fsasaki> ACTION-2 due to 18 Sept
14:08:45 <fsasaki> ACTION-3 postponed
14:09:37 <fsasaki> ACTION-4 now due 5 Sept
14:10:03 <fsasaki> ACTION-5 - taken by Felix
14:10:30 <fsasaki> ACTION-6 pending
14:10:39 <fsasaki> ACTION-7 - done
14:10:51 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its-errata.html
14:12:01 <fsasaki> Yves: question in general: got comments from Kara about spec, spelling errors etc., should we put them in the errata?
14:12:13 <fsasaki> Felix: yes
14:12:26 <fsasaki> action: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata
14:12:26 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-14 - Go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
14:13:28 <fsasaki> ACTION-8 
14:13:32 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevRuby
14:13:49 <fsasaki> Yves: implemented Felix' editorial changes
14:14:20 <fsasaki> no input from present people on the section
14:14:24 <fsasaki> close the AI
14:15:25 <fsasaki> ACTION-9 - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html
14:15:47 <fsasaki> Yves: proposal from Felix for a translate rule
14:15:54 <fsasaki> .. some of them should include within text rule
14:18:19 <Zakim> -Bartosz
14:18:22 <fsasaki> Christian proposes to have some ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
14:19:06 <fsasaki> Felix: agree, plan to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus  ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
14:19:18 <bbogacki> I lost the connection
14:19:27 <YvesS> we noticed.
14:19:27 <bbogacki> I'm trying to reconnect
14:19:31 <fsasaki> agreement from Yves and Christiean
14:19:45 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
14:19:45 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-15 - Go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-09-05].
14:20:20 <fsasaki> ACTION-10 - done
14:20:50 <Zakim> +??P3
14:21:16 <fsasaki> ACTION-11 - done
14:21:25 <fsasaki> Yves: sent mail today, no reply yet
14:22:41 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevUniqueID
14:22:44 <fsasaki> ACTION-12
14:23:21 <fsasaki> done, closed
14:23:58 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevITSRules
14:24:06 <fsasaki> ACTION-13 
14:24:40 <fsasaki> Christian: well done, thanks
14:24:56 <Zakim> -??P3
14:25:31 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html
14:25:33 <Zakim> +??P3
14:25:58 <fsasaki> topic: Choice of wording for common paragraph
14:27:28 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html
14:28:08 <fsasaki> preference for 2 from Christian and Felix
14:28:25 <fsasaki> Bartosz: me as well
14:28:46 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll make the changes for the BP doc
14:29:00 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthLang
14:29:16 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0030.html
14:29:26 <fsasaki> topic: BP discussion, no 15
14:33:58 <fsasaki> action: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang
14:33:58 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-16 - Reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
14:35:53 <fsasaki> agreement from Yves and Felix on comment no. 2 from Christian as well
14:36:01 <fsasaki> Bartosz: could you provide an example?
14:36:35 <fsasaki> Christian: a French quote in an English sentence, so you switch from English to French. What should happen to French example during translation?
14:36:54 <fsasaki> Bartosz: what would the attribute indicate?
14:37:15 <fsasaki> Christian: anything, you would use the Translate datacategory
14:37:24 <fsasaki> Bartosz: sounds good
14:37:59 <fsasaki> Yves: need to be careful not to put information on borrowed words
14:39:10 <fsasaki> .. think we should add no 2, I'll do that
14:39:43 <fsasaki> .. on no. 3: agree, but no need to say s.t. about it, the less text we have, the more clear the BP will be
14:39:47 <fsasaki> Christian: ok
14:40:14 <fsasaki> Yves: on 4, agree
14:41:21 <fsasaki> .. also on no 5
14:42:56 <fsasaki> .. we will come back to 6
14:43:18 <fsasaki> topic: BP 21
14:43:27 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthInsText
14:43:57 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0046.html
14:49:21 <fsasaki> Christian proposes to point to Richards article, Yves will make some wording proposals
14:49:44 <fsasaki> (related to proposal 1 from Christian)
14:51:04 <fsasaki> agreement on 2
14:51:09 <fsasaki> agreement on 3
14:52:27 <fsasaki> Yves will make rewording proposals for 4 and 5
14:53:52 <fsasaki> action: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon
14:53:52 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - modify
14:54:00 <fsasaki> action: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon
14:54:00 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-17 - Modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
14:54:05 <fsasaki> topic: review work
14:54:16 <fsasaki> Yves: any news on XLIFF or SRX?
14:54:23 <fsasaki> Christian: nothing on my side
14:54:54 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:02:41 <fsasaki> discussion about relation between XLIFF and ITS
15:06:13 <fsasaki> value of showing XLIFF people how to create XLIFF scelecton files from ITS
15:06:29 <fsasaki> Yves: on f2f meeting
15:07:20 <fsasaki> not all participants confirmed yet
15:08:19 <fsasaki> Yves: Bartosz, could you look at the BP document overall, maybe you will have some generic comments?
15:08:28 <fsasaki> Bartosz: won't be able next week
15:08:46 <fsasaki> Yves: sure, congrats!
15:08:52 <Zakim> -ChriLi
15:08:54 <Zakim> -Felix
15:08:55 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
15:08:59 <Zakim> -??P3
15:09:00 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
15:09:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, ChriLi, Bartosz
15:09:05 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
15:13:21 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-actions.rdf :
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata [1]
15:13:21 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-12-26
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0 [2]
15:13:21 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-19-45
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang [3]
15:13:21 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-33-58
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> ACTION: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [4]
15:13:21 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-53-52
15:13:21 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [5]
15:13:21 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-54-00
15:13:24 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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