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<trackbot-ng> Date: 28 August 2007
<Andrew> Zarkim, who is on the call?
i can scribe if u like
<jo> scribenick: rob
<jo> Scribe: Rob
<Rhys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0007.html
rhys: additions to agenda?
<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Pro-1.0-Tests/20070716
<jo> oops
rhys: more from Magnus at the appropriate time
<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/ProblemStatement/070823
<jo> (latest draft of Problem statement posted after the agenda was sent out)
<jo> worked up from andrew's draft plus actions from last telecon to update with additional items from the F2F
<jo> thinks that jo speaking is a waste of time -
<jo> on wlan and skype a bad combo
<jo> will see if there is a fixed phone somewhere
andrew: suggests discuss not mobile-specific but generic delivery-context
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically
Rhys: isn't a problem that we are a mobile group
+1
<kemp> +1
<jo> RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery context in general rather than mobile specifically
Rhys: Q about sec 2, 1st bullet: Identify what representations are available for a resource.
jo: summarises next 4 sub-bullets
... eg HTTP 305 return code
Rhys: understood
<jo> np!
Andrew: thanks Jo for completing the action!
Magnus: the following comments are based on Andrews email, not Jo's write-up...
... would be unfortunate if intermediate proxy messed with some MIME-types for certain apps
... reducing size of ad-banners often makes them ineffective or unreadable... does this make replacing them or removing them acceptable?
<Rhys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0012.html
jo: these are good additions
... advertising point might be kicked to "Society" domain
... would rather we note the point, don't try to answer it
Rhys: this is a guidelines doc, so may be worth guiding the authors that there may be unexpected outcomes with adverts
Sean: any examples on type of app for point 1?
Magnus: J2ME app requesting an image - don't want size/colour depth altering for the phone's browser
Rhys: also AJAX apps - this would even come from the browser's User-Agent
Magnus: indeed. AJAX can request anything
... Will this doc lead to statements of what to do for each actor in the chain?
Rhys: Yes, eg what the origin-server should do, what the adaptation proxies should do all along the chain
<jo> ACTION: [ctf] Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - [ctf]
<jo> ACTION: Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten Transformation] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-539 - Weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten Transformation] [on Jo Rabin - due 2007-09-04].
Topic 2. Review Guidelines W3C Working Draft
<jo> is happy with structure of doc as stands
Rhys: who'd like to voulenteer info for sections?
Sean: sec 2.3 to start with
<rhys> ACTION: SeanP to write initial material for section 2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
Aaron: want to contribute to 2.3, maybe 2.2 maybe others
<rhys> ACTION: Aaron to write initial material for section 2.2/2.3 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
Andrew: 2.3 and 2.4 please
<rhys> ACTION: Andrew to write initial material for section 2.1/2.3/3.1/3.2 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
Magnus: 2.1 please
<rhys> ACTION: Magnus to write initial material for section 2.1 for 10th Sept [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]
Andrew: is 2.1 a general intro?
Magnus: it's about HTTP protocol
Sean: and 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 are more detail
Jo: contributors could start with this ToC and we can adjust the structure later
Rhys: OK, start with this structure then
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-540 - Make contribution nominally against 2.1 [on Magnus Lönnroth - due 2007-09-04].
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Patterson
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - SeanP
Magnus: prefer due-date of draft for 10 Sept
Sean: same here, just a draft
<Andrew> I will contribute to 2.1, 2.3, 3.1 & 3.2 by 10 September
Jo: will assign actions later, trackbot's not co-operating at moment.
Rhys: will be on vacation on a bike next call
... so Jo will chair next
<jo> request that each person taking action is noted as having done so
Rhys: thanks everyone
<jo> othewise we will have no record