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18:10:14 <Kumar> pratul: do you have any questions on the last meeting?
18:10:50 <Kumar> pratul: since no questions from anyone, we should approve minutes from the last meeting.
18:11:13 <Kumar> scribe: Kumar Pandit
18:11:20 <Kumar> ScribeNick: Kumar
18:12:03 <Kumar> pratul: please register for f2f meeting.
18:12:19 <Kumar> pratul: what is PCATS?
18:14:42 <Kumar> msm: describes PCATS and its advantages
18:16:01 <Kumar> topic: post-october f2f dates / location proposed last week.
18:16:03 <MSM> PCATS meeting page: http://cms.pcats.org/node/633
18:16:48 <Kumar> virginia: do they have telephone access in PCATS conf rooms?
18:17:38 <Kumar> msm: they probably do but we need to make sure that it does not involve exorbitant hotel dial-out charges.
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18:18:27 <Kumar> pratul: michael can you find out from PCATS if they have these facilities (phone, broadbad, access, etc.)
18:18:28 <zulah> Not virginia, Zulah
18:18:45 <Kumar> s/virginia/Zulah/
18:20:03 <Kumar> pratul: apart from the queries about phone/broadbad, does anyone have objections to location (Orlando) or dates?
18:20:06 <Kumar> Kumar: no
18:20:44 <Zakim> +??P0
18:21:10 <MSM> zakim, ??P0 is Marv
18:21:10 <Zakim> +Marv; got it
18:21:56 <Kumar> pratul: explains PCATS discussion to Marv
18:22:31 <Kumar> Marv: ok with me
18:23:56 <Kumar> pratul: I think we have a decision to hold Jan meeting with PCATS. this is subject to the questions about phone/internet/conf room raised earlier. If they do not have facilities, we may have to revisit the decision.
18:24:23 <Kumar> topic: f2f meeting in CA
18:24:34 <Kumar> pratul: anyone have problems with the dates?
18:25:46 <Kumar> pratul: no objections heard. 
18:26:23 <Kumar> pratul: some other WG (xsl/xquery) are also meeting during this time.
18:27:17 <Kumar> pratul: we agree to meet in CA (oracle campus) for the march 08 meeting.
18:27:34 <Kumar> topic: bug/AI process
18:28:28 <Kumar> marv: explains the AI/bug process proposal (details in agenda email).
18:30:30 <Kumar> kirk: some issues come up during the meeting discussions. how will they be handled?
18:30:52 <Kumar> marv: if we do not know immediately if the issues is an editorial item, it would go to AI
18:31:18 <Kumar> pratul: any concerns? suggestions?
18:31:31 <Paul_L> Regarding Agenda Item 5: I personally have a strong preference for SML to meet the later half of the week. Thanks. 
18:31:53 <Paul_L> I am referring to the meeting in Orlando (week of January 21st)
18:32:09 <MSM> q+
18:32:39 <MSM> q-
18:33:14 <Kumar> kirk: if there is a big discussion there are many people involved. however, an AI is assigned to a single person.
18:33:51 <Kumar> paul: I personally have a strong preference for SML to meet the later half of the week. 
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18:35:26 <Kumar> topic: #7 how to recognize bug states?
18:35:46 <Kumar> pratul: we are not discuss this much. if you have proposals, please send them by email.
18:36:03 <Kumar> topic: #8 overdue AIs
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18:36:53 <Kumar> I will be back in a minute (need to pick up printout)
18:40:19 <Kumar> pratul: 1 AI for plh. is he in?
18:40:29 <Kumar> he is ill
18:42:19 <Kumar> plh: I sent email about this. IRI is supported in Java. we can close this AI.
18:42:27 <Kumar> pratul: Bassam?
18:42:51 <Kumar> not present. He sent me email about his AIs. I will go through the email and act appropriately.
18:43:06 <Kumar> topic: triage new bugs
18:46:30 <Kumar> pratul: 4876 ok for FPWD?
18:46:39 <Kumar> kumar: yes. it is a simple change.
18:49:17 <Kumar> kumar: re 4877, unless the text is to be inserted verbatim it would be better to postpone it post FPWD.
18:49:47 <Kumar> pratul: some parts of the abstract need to be changed.
18:50:54 <Kumar> marv: the word 
18:51:18 <Kumar> marv: the work profile appears a number of times and it will need bigger change to fix it.
18:51:33 <Kirk> s/marv/Kirk 
18:51:37 <Kumar> pratul: can we just change version to 1.1 ?
18:52:13 <Kirk> s/work/word
18:54:27 <Kumar> pratul: for now, we can use the suggested abstract as-is and then change the spec and the abstract later.
18:55:45 <Kumar> kirk: the current editorial version omits the workd IT.
18:56:32 <Kumar> s/workd/word/
18:57:30 <Kumar> pratul: from the proposed abstract, remove the word IT. other part remains intact.
18:57:54 <Kumar> pratul: agreement for the above.
19:02:39 <Sandy> +1 to P1 for 4884
19:03:07 <Kumar> pratul: propose milestone for 4884 to be second draft
19:05:44 <Kumar> pratul: marv to be scribe for the next meeting.
19:06:31 <Zakim> -Zulah_Eckert
19:06:36 <Zakim> - +1.267.987.aadd
19:06:38 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
19:06:39 <Zakim> -Kirk
19:06:40 <Zakim> -Sandy
19:06:41 <Zakim> -Brian
19:06:42 <Zakim> - +1.303.495.aacc
19:06:47 <Zakim> -Marv
19:06:49 <Zakim> -MSM
19:07:01 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
19:07:46 <Kumar> zakim, bye
19:07:46 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.603.823.aaaa, +1.610.277.aabb, MSM, [Microsoft], Kirk, Sandy, Brian, James, +1.303.495.aacc, +1.267.987.aadd, Zulah_Eckert, Marv
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19:08:04 <Kumar> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:08:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-sml-minutes.html Kumar
19:08:17 <Kumar> rrsagent, bye
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