IRC log of forms on 2007-06-27
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc
- 14:51:42 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 14:52:20 [Steven]
- Regrets: Mark
- 14:52:44 [John_Boyer]
- a few others as well...
- 14:52:52 [John_Boyer]
- Did you mean MarkS or MarkB
- 14:52:53 [John_Boyer]
- ?
- 14:53:11 [John_Boyer]
- Oh, forgot to say... Steven
- 14:53:16 [John_Boyer]
- ruff
- 14:53:20 [Steven]
- lol
- 14:53:37 [Steven]
- MarkB, I forgot MarkS was back :-)
- 14:53:48 [Schnitz]
- Mark Seaborne is back?
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- markseaborne has joined #forms
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- s/Regrets: Mark/Regrets: MarkB/
- 14:54:07 [Schnitz]
- speaking of him... :-)
- 14:54:10 [Schnitz]
- Mark, hi!
- 14:54:15 [Steven]
- Regrets+Joern
- 14:54:15 [markseaborne]
- Hello there :-)
- 14:54:23 [Schnitz]
- welcome back! :-)
- 14:54:25 [Steven]
- Regrets:Uli
- 14:54:29 [markseaborne]
- ta very much
- 14:54:37 [Steven]
- s/:/+/
- 14:54:39 [Schnitz]
- we missed you!
- 14:54:50 [John_Boyer]
- Yes, esp. with Leigh being out today :-)
- 14:54:53 [markseaborne]
- well, you should take aim more carefully then!
- 14:54:59 [John_Boyer]
- wink, wink, nudge, nudge
- 14:54:59 [markseaborne]
- hmmmm
- 14:55:10 [Schnitz]
- markseaborne, are u replacing david landwehr?
- 14:55:11 [markseaborne]
- I don't know!
- 14:55:15 [markseaborne]
- yes
- 14:55:25 [markseaborne]
- though only on the WG :-)
- 14:55:31 [Schnitz]
- sure :-)
- 14:55:44 [markseaborne]
- he wanted to spend more time with his family ;-)
- 14:55:49 [Steven]
- lol
- 14:56:00 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets+Nick
- 14:56:07 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets+Leigh
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- ok...
- 14:57:11 [Zakim]
- HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
- 14:57:12 [Schnitz]
- switching laptops
- 14:57:17 [Schnitz]
- mom
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- +John_Boyer
- 14:57:40 [markseaborne]
- I thought sebastian didn't like laptops?
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- i bought him one :}
- 14:57:52 [John_Boyer]
- He seems to like IBM thinkpads...
- 14:58:06 [Charlie]
- (well, he paid for it...)
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- zakim, code?
- 14:58:27 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Schnitz
- 14:58:38 [markseaborne]
- fair enough
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- Charlie, hi, the X40 is so great, thanks so much :-)
- 14:58:57 [Steven]
- You see that there is a UK Zakim now MarkS
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- +??P30
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- -John_Boyer
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- +John_Boyer
- 14:59:27 [Schnitz]
- zakim, ??p30 is me
- 14:59:27 [Zakim]
- +Schnitz; got it
- 14:59:29 [markseaborne]
- goodness
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- zakim, who is here?
- 14:59:37 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see John_Boyer, Schnitz
- 14:59:38 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see wellsk, ebruchez, Schnitz, Roger, Charlie, markseaborne, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven
- 14:59:42 [Zakim]
- +[IBM]
- 14:59:57 [Charlie]
- zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
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- +Charlie; got it
- 15:00:08 [Zakim]
- +Raman
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- +[IBM]
- 15:00:26 [Steven]
- zakim, dial steven-617
- 15:00:26 [Zakim]
- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven
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- +??P48
- 15:01:30 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:01:30 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see John_Boyer, Schnitz, Charlie, Raman, [IBM], Steven, ??P48
- 15:01:33 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see lars, wellsk, ebruchez, Schnitz, Roger, Charlie, markseaborne, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven
- 15:01:34 [Roger]
- zakim, ??p48 is roger
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- +roger; got it
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- +??P53
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- +??P51
- 15:02:35 [John_Boyer]
- Chair: John
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- raman, ping
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- -??P53
- 15:03:34 [ebruchez]
- well, I was ??P53
- 15:03:43 [ebruchez]
- so I guess Lars was 51
- 15:03:47 [lars]
- zakim, I am ??P51
- 15:03:57 [John_Boyer]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0083.html
- 15:04:00 [Zakim]
- +lars; got it
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- +[IPcaller]
- 15:04:06 [John_Boyer]
- John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0083.html
- 15:04:11 [ebruchez]
- zakim, ebruchez is [IP
- 15:04:12 [Steven]
- Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0083.html
- 15:04:14 [Zakim]
- sorry, ebruchez, I do not recognize a party named 'ebruchez'
- 15:04:25 [ebruchez]
- zkim, [IP is ebruchez
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- +??P57
- 15:05:07 [raman]
- raman has joined #forms
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- Scribe: raman
- 15:05:08 [markseaborne]
- me
- 15:05:15 [raman]
- Scribe: Raman
- 15:05:29 [markseaborne]
- it is MarkS
- 15:05:32 [Steven]
- zakim, [IP is ebruchez
- 15:05:32 [Zakim]
- +ebruchez; got it
- 15:05:40 [markseaborne]
- but you can't hear me for some reason
- 15:05:54 [Steven]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:05:54 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see John_Boyer, Schnitz, Charlie, Raman, [IBM], Steven, roger, lars, ebruchez, ??P57
- 15:05:54 [markseaborne]
- MEEEEE!!!!!!
- 15:05:56 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see raman, lars, wellsk, ebruchez, Schnitz, Roger, Charlie, markseaborne, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven
- 15:06:09 [wellsk]
- zakim, IBM is wellsk
- 15:06:09 [Zakim]
- +wellsk; got it
- 15:06:23 [Steven]
- zakim, ??P57 is markseaborne
- 15:06:23 [Zakim]
- +markseaborne; got it
- 15:06:32 [markseaborne]
- I am having problems with speech
- 15:06:35 [markseaborne]
- don't know why
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- I'm shouting as loud as I can
- 15:06:46 [Steven]
- zakim, ack markseaborne
- 15:06:46 [Zakim]
- I see no one on the speaker queue
- 15:06:50 [markseaborne]
- IS THAT BETTER!!!!!!
- 15:06:53 [John_Boyer]
- no
- 15:06:55 [Steven]
- nope
- 15:07:15 [markseaborne]
- yes
- 15:07:16 [lars]
- zakim, unmute markseaborne, PLEASE!
- 15:07:16 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'unmute markseaborne, PLEASE!', lars
- 15:07:23 [markseaborne]
- It is a hardware problem at this end
- 15:07:27 [lars]
- mpf
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- my mic isn't working
- 15:07:42 [Steven]
- scribe: raman
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-minutes.html Steven
- 15:08:04 [ebruchez]
- congratulations
- 15:08:06 [markseaborne]
- Thanks :-)
- 15:08:13 [Schnitz]
- yeah, great to have you back
- 15:08:14 [markseaborne]
- nice to be back
- 15:08:15 [Charlie]
- welcome!
- 15:08:18 [markseaborne]
- :-)
- 15:08:25 [John_Boyer]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0084.html
- 15:08:32 [Steven]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- http://www.w3.org/2007/06/forms-diffs-1.7-1.14.txt
- 15:09:07 [Steven]
- Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
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- Topic: Charter
- 15:10:02 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/06/forms-diffs-1.7-1.14.txt
- 15:10:16 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/03/forms-charter.html
- 15:10:59 [Schnitz]
- zakim, mute me
- 15:10:59 [Zakim]
- Schnitz should now be muted
- 15:12:13 [Schnitz]
- zakim, unmute me
- 15:12:13 [Zakim]
- Schnitz should no longer be muted
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- steven, +1
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- scribe: Sebastian
- 15:15:23 [Steven]
- scribenick: schnitz
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- ACTION: John to respond to Chris Lilley about the relationship between XHTML Transitional and the Forms & HTML WGs
- 15:15:53 [Zakim]
- -roger
- 15:16:00 [Schnitz]
- Topic: Coming Calls
- 15:16:22 [Schnitz]
- John: Regrets for next week?
- 15:16:24 [Schnitz]
- Charlie: YES
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- John: +Leigh
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- +Raman
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- Raman: regrets next week
- 15:16:52 [Zakim]
- + +03491211aaaa
- 15:16:57 [Schnitz]
- John: we habe enough people
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- RESOLUTION: Next call will take place as planned
- 15:17:09 [Roger]
- zakim, 211aaa is roger
- 15:17:09 [Zakim]
- sorry, Roger, I do not recognize a party named '211aaa'
- 15:17:20 [Schnitz]
- Topic: Questionaire for the summer period
- 15:17:27 [Steven]
- zakim, aaaa is Roger
- 15:17:27 [Zakim]
- +Roger; got it
- 15:17:30 [Schnitz]
- John: Steven, status?
- 15:17:39 [Schnitz]
- Steven: On my to-do list
- 15:17:54 [Schnitz]
- Topic: XForms evening at XML conference
- 15:18:04 [Schnitz]
- John: We have thumbs up from Dave Steinhard
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- John: conflict on Dec 4
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- John: affects Steven
- 15:18:44 [Schnitz]
- Steven, cannot do much, unfortunately
- 15:18:54 [Schnitz]
- s/Steven,/Steven:
- 15:19:15 [Schnitz]
- RESOLUTION: We will continue with Dec 4, w/o Steven
- 15:19:16 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0081.html
- 15:19:47 [Schnitz]
- John: We need a copy for a call for papers
- 15:19:57 [Schnitz]
- John: we should have an invited speaker
- 15:20:07 [Schnitz]
- John: I propose Michael Kay
- 15:20:16 [Schnitz]
- Raman: possible
- 15:20:39 [Schnitz]
- Raman: That focus is XML though, I rather see Jacob Nielson, focus on Usabilityt
- 15:20:55 [Schnitz]
- s/Usabilityt/Usability
- 15:21:10 [Schnitz]
- John: Would Jacob attract the audience?
- 15:21:14 [Schnitz]
- Raman: YES
- 15:21:46 [Schnitz]
- ACTION: Steven to provide contact details for Jacob
- 15:22:23 [Schnitz]
- Charlie: That would warm people up
- 15:22:38 [Steven]
- rrsagent, pointer?
- 15:22:38 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-22-38
- 15:22:42 [Schnitz]
- John: other ideas?
- 15:22:49 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Kurt Cagle
- 15:22:54 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: +1
- 15:23:02 [Schnitz]
- Raman: +1
- 15:23:13 [Schnitz]
- ACTION: John to invite Kurt Cagle
- 15:23:23 [Schnitz]
- Topic: Joint Forms Task Force
- 15:23:33 [Schnitz]
- John: Pushed it up to the HCG
- 15:23:43 [Schnitz]
- John: Agreed about equal membership
- 15:23:52 [Schnitz]
- John: Then push it back down to chairs
- 15:23:59 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0070.html
- 15:24:03 [Schnitz]
- John: Letter is out, no response yet
- 15:24:13 [Schnitz]
- John: Problem is, Dave is not here
- 15:25:08 [Schnitz]
- Raman: Don't rush, the TF could be quickly smashed
- 15:25:23 [Schnitz]
- Raman: IMHO, won't go anywhere
- 15:25:36 [Schnitz]
- Raman: Its a mess, I have no idea what to do
- 15:25:47 [Schnitz]
- John: 12 people on the HTML WG side have interest
- 15:26:39 [Schnitz]
- Raman: They won't allow wiggle room
- 15:29:54 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian, Raman: Not rushing it is a good idea
- 15:30:26 [Schnitz]
- John: Those interested from other side could in the meanwhile could be looking into ease of authoring
- 15:30:35 [Schnitz]
- Raman: Just do it.
- 15:30:46 [Schnitz]
- s/other side/our side
- 15:31:01 [Schnitz]
- Topic: Action Item List
- 15:31:13 [Schnitz]
- John: Issue Tracking is important
- 15:31:31 [Schnitz]
- John: The Action Item List grows, but we need more folks take on work on a weekly basis
- 15:31:46 [Schnitz]
- Raman: I have not been doing much
- 15:32:14 [Schnitz]
- John: The Wiki needs more work
- 15:32:42 [Schnitz]
- ACTION: WG members look into their Action Items, and start working on them on the Wiki
- 15:33:10 [Schnitz]
- Raman: ciao
- 15:33:12 [Zakim]
- -Raman
- 15:33:22 [Schnitz]
- Topic: LC Issues
- 15:33:39 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=72;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
- 15:34:26 [Steven]
- Issue Controls/72
- 15:34:35 [Schnitz]
- John: Issue from Steven
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- John: Do we have an ETA on this?
- 15:35:05 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Did we accept it?
- 15:35:14 [Schnitz]
- John: Classified as still needing work
- 15:35:42 [Schnitz]
- Steven: trying to work this out...
- 15:35:54 [Schnitz]
- John: It needs approval
- 15:36:28 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Somebody things this is a solution, but the group need to discuss this, but it doesn't say what the resolution is
- 15:36:40 [Schnitz]
- Steven: the first thing is that the wording should be different
- 15:37:04 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Then, very few controls says what the default styling should be
- 15:37:15 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: UA CSS?
- 15:37:21 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Possibly
- 15:37:36 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: Display property?
- 15:38:05 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: inline for trigger
- 15:38:36 [Schnitz]
- Steven: ah default UA CSS would be fine
- 15:38:49 [Schnitz]
- John: things like relevant go beyond, though
- 15:39:16 [Schnitz]
- Steven: relevant is display: none for irrelevant
- 15:39:30 [Schnitz]
- John: Is this a informative appendix?
- 15:39:36 [Schnitz]
- Steven: should be stronger
- 15:40:02 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Maybe not MUST, but in case of validity, it SHOULD always be visible as being invalid, e.g.
- 15:40:42 [Schnitz]
- Steven: I do not require a particular presentation but we should require that something needs to be done
- 15:40:59 [Schnitz]
- John: this seems like for ALL form controls, not particular ones
- 15:41:31 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Select1 inline as a drop-down, block as radio?
- 15:41:40 [Schnitz]
- Lars: Radios could be inline
- 15:41:48 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Maybe, maybe all inline
- 15:42:06 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: Radio button themselves could be inline-block
- 15:43:05 [Schnitz]
- Steven: That is CSS3
- 15:43:16 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: Right
- 15:44:01 [Schnitz]
- Erik: It is diffcult, in can be both vertial and horizontal
- 15:44:07 [Roger]
- I agree with Erik
- 15:44:16 [Schnitz]
- John: don't know whether we should go down that route
- 15:44:30 [Schnitz]
- Steven: There is a certain level that has to be normative
- 15:44:41 [Schnitz]
- Steven: you should expect certain things to happen
- 15:44:54 [Schnitz]
- Steven: So you know what to put in a User CSS
- 15:45:09 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Establishing Basic Expectations
- 15:45:18 [Schnitz]
- Lars: Default UA CSS?
- 15:45:27 [Schnitz]
- Steven: Just say all controls are default inline
- 15:45:42 [Schnitz]
- Steven: and all MIPS are all perceivable by the user
- 15:45:44 [markseaborne]
- Isn't presentation more down to the host language?
- 15:45:48 [Schnitz]
- John: what about read-onlu?
- 15:45:55 [Charlie]
- i'd suggest whatever language we specify clarify that this is just for visual UIs
- 15:45:56 [markseaborne]
- You really need some context before you can make assumptions
- 15:46:02 [Schnitz]
- s/read-onlu/read-only
- 15:46:16 [Schnitz]
- Steven: No, read-only also could have a hint, like being grey
- 15:46:53 [Schnitz]
- Steven: disabled, the label is greyed out, read-only, the value is greyed out
- 15:47:01 [Schnitz]
- Erik: its the way it behaves
- 15:47:09 [Schnitz]
- s/Erik/Lars
- 15:47:26 [Schnitz]
- Lars: I also find it more convenient to see what to expect
- 15:48:00 [Schnitz]
- John: in other langauges read-only e.g. is not shown
- 15:48:12 [Schnitz]
- Steven: you can control that, we are talking about the default
- 15:48:31 [Schnitz]
- Erik: we would just say its an indication, not e.g. being grey
- 15:48:45 [Schnitz]
- John: someone needs to write the text
- 15:48:52 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: Steven is the one
- 15:48:58 [Schnitz]
- ACTION: Steven to write something up
- 15:50:10 [Schnitz]
- Sebastian: It would be good to have a mapping into CSS 3 UI syntax
- 15:50:31 [Steven]
- PROPOSED: all controls should be default inline, and that all MIP properties should be visible on attached controls
- 15:50:42 [Schnitz]
- s/something up/text for Issue Controls 72
- 15:50:49 [Charlie]
- for visual interfaces
- 15:50:55 [Steven]
- s/visible/perceivable
- 15:51:08 [Charlie]
- don't think inline has an equivalent in voicexml
- 15:52:10 [Roger_]
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- 15:52:16 [Steven]
- PROPOSED: all controls should be default inline, and all MIP properties should be preceivable on attached controls
- 15:52:41 [Charlie]
- for visual interfaces...
- 15:54:31 [Schnitz]
- Charlie: OK, I'm happy
- 15:54:45 [Steven]
- POPOSAL: all controls should be default inline, and all MIP properties should be perceivable on attached controls without interaction
- 15:54:57 [Schnitz]
- Lars: From an XForms perspective, controls should be more abstract
- 15:55:00 [Steven]
- r/POP/PROP/
- 15:55:07 [Steven]
- s/POP/PRO/
- 15:55:11 [Schnitz]
- Charlie: I think its OK since inline is not only for visual medias
- 15:55:22 [Steven]
- RESOLUTION: all controls should be default inline, and all MIP properties should be perceivable on attached controls without interaction
- 15:55:24 [Schnitz]
- John: works for me, any objection
- 15:55:29 [Schnitz]
- No objections
- 15:55:39 [Schnitz]
- Steven, thanks
- 15:55:45 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=73;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
- 15:55:47 [Schnitz]
- Topic: Issue 73
- 15:55:57 [Schnitz]
- Controls/73
- 15:56:09 [Schnitz]
- John: We already agreed on a resolution see the notes
- 15:56:22 [Schnitz]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 15:56:34 [Zakim]
- Schnitz, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
- 15:56:40 [Schnitz]
- John: Steven, you raised a media type issue
- 15:57:06 [Schnitz]
- John: use @value instead of @ref, and we modified to say "in addition to"
- 15:57:18 [Schnitz]
- Erik: why do you actually need the ref attribute?
- 15:57:25 [Schnitz]
- John: we discussed that
- 15:57:42 [Schnitz]
- John: we tried to mirror with the xforms output the things you can with the xforms upload
- 15:58:23 [Schnitz]
- Erik: I you have an output the media type will be chosen by the author, as to opposed to the upload, probably
- 15:59:02 [Schnitz]
- John: upload the media type attibute constrains, output picks that up to feed to rendering engine
- 15:59:50 [Schnitz]
- John: ref attribute was added to easy sync between output and upload
- 15:59:59 [Schnitz]
- Erik: I am skeptical
- 16:00:19 [Schnitz]
- Steven: We tried to be consistent with upload
- 16:00:38 [Schnitz]
- Steven: when we do not want to be consistent, because they are different, fine, then never mind
- 16:01:09 [Schnitz]
- Erik: The media type value is a string, not a single node, don't confuse that
- 16:01:20 [Schnitz]
- John: we need an action item to make the change
- 16:01:28 [Schnitz]
- John: the value attribute will be added
- 16:01:37 [Schnitz]
- John: the question is whether we throw out ref
- 16:01:55 [Schnitz]
- Erik: we are generally working around not having attribute value template
- 16:02:12 [Schnitz]
- Erik: I don't really see why we would use ref attribute, only for symmetry, is not enough
- 16:02:24 [Schnitz]
- John: Top of the hour
- 16:02:29 [Roger_]
- thx
- 16:02:30 [markseaborne]
- bye bye
- 16:02:33 [Zakim]
- -Charlie
- 16:02:39 [Zakim]
- -ebruchez
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- HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were John_Boyer, Schnitz, Charlie, Raman, Steven, roger, lars, [IPcaller], ebruchez, wellsk, markseaborne, +03491211aaaa
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-minutes.html Steven
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- Steven, thanks
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: John to respond to Chris Lilley about the relationship between XHTML Transitional and the Forms & HTML WGs [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-15-43
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- ACTION: Steven to provide contact details for Jacob [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-21-46
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- ACTION: John to invite Kurt Cagle [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-23-13
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- ACTION: WG members look into their Action Items, and start working on them on the Wiki [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-32-42
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- ACTION: Steven to write something up [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-forms-irc#T15-48-58
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