IRC log of rdfa on 2007-06-14

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-irc

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14:41:35 [mhausenblas]

zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)

14:41:35 [Zakim]

ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes

14:44:09 [mhausenblas]

Meeting: W3C RDF-in-XHTML TF - Telecon 2007-06-14, 15:00 UTC

14:47:52 [mhausenblas]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jun/0025.html

14:49:32 [mhausenblas]

Present: Mark_Birbeck, Steven_Pemberton, Keith_Alexander, Simone_Onofri, Michael_Hausenblas

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14:49:53 [Steven]

I am only present remotely (at a FtF)

14:50:23 [mhausenblas]

Steven, ack ;)

14:50:36 [mhausenblas]

present+ Shane_McCarron

14:50:48 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

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RRSAgent, make logs public

14:51:43 [ShaneM]

we dont start for another 8 minutes right?

14:52:02 [mhausenblas]

right.

14:56:20 [ShaneM]

I have a house full o children this morning; might not be wise

14:59:49 [markbirbeck]

I am remotely attending the XForms FtF, but am breaking of to attend the call.

15:00:14 [markbirbeck]

Will be a couple of minutes late though. (Need a drink. :))

15:00:17 [Zakim]

SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

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+ShaneM

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ScribeNick: mhausenblas

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+ +043316876aaaa

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-ShaneM

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+ShaneM

15:01:17 [mhausenblas]

Zakim, aaaa is me

15:01:18 [Zakim]

+mhausenblas; got it

15:01:34 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

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+??P5

15:03:49 [Simone]

Zakim, ??P5 is me

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+Simone; got it

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+Elias_Torres

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Zakim, Elias_Torres is me

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+EliasT; got it

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present+ Elias_Torres

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having trouble dialing in.

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+Ben_Adida

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present+ Ben_Adida

15:05:22 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

15:05:39 [benadida]

zakim, who is on the call?

15:05:39 [Zakim]

On the phone I see ShaneM, mhausenblas, Simone, EliasT, Ben_Adida

15:06:26 [mhausenblas]

Chair: Ben

15:07:22 [mhausenblas]

Topic: 1. Action Item Review

15:07:34 [mhausenblas]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007May/0073 meeting record: 2007-05-31 RDFa telecon

15:07:45 [mhausenblas]

[NEW] ACTION: Ben send email to SWD WG list summarizing RDFa document status [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]

15:07:49 [mhausenblas]

- continues

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-- continues

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to review tracker issues and add @resource, @href, @src, profile if not there already [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]

15:08:13 [mhausenblas]

-- done

15:08:27 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]

15:08:45 [Zakim]

+Mark_Birbeck

15:08:45 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

15:09:07 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]

15:09:17 [mhausenblas]

-- done

15:09:24 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for everyone's approval next week. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

15:09:49 [mhausenblas]

-- done

15:10:07 [mhausenblas]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule

15:10:27 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

15:10:32 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

15:10:45 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

15:10:53 [mhausenblas]

-- done

15:11:00 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

15:11:11 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

15:11:22 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]

15:11:28 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

15:11:36 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

15:12:12 [EliasT]

Zakim, mute me

15:12:12 [Zakim]

EliasT should now be muted

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-- continues

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-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/ProposedStructure

15:13:34 [mhausenblas]

Mark: Two issues 'Not agreed, but on the table'

15:15:21 [ShaneM]

I note that even HTML5 is no longer imputing semantics on class

15:15:46 [mhausenblas]

... will write up proposal for @src

15:21:10 [EliasT]

Zakim, unmute me

15:21:10 [Zakim]

EliasT should no longer be muted

15:21:22 [Simone]

Zakim, mute me

15:21:22 [Zakim]

Simone should now be muted

15:22:16 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]

15:22:20 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

15:23:48 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]

15:24:04 [mhausenblas]

-- continues

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

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-> http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit Exhibit

15:25:28 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

15:25:39 [Steven]

--continues

15:26:06 [mhausenblas]

[PENDING] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

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-- continues

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Topic: 2. Issues Review

15:26:52 [mhausenblas]

Ben: My plan ws to go over the issues

15:26:58 [mhausenblas]

s/ws/was

15:27:17 [mhausenblas]

... but without ralph and Steven on the call hard to do

15:27:29 [Steven]

(sorry)

15:27:33 [mhausenblas]

s/ralph/Ralph

15:27:55 [mhausenblas]

... we do it via mail

15:28:09 [mhausenblas]

Ben: One issue I'd like to tackle

15:28:16 [mhausenblas]

... GRDDL profile

15:28:53 [benadida]

my thoughts: if you control the head of the doc, and you want to be nice, put a GRDDL profile for RDFa, but if you're a consumer, don't rely on it always being there, because the DTD is already there to point you back to the RDFa.

15:29:26 [mhausenblas]

Ben: Any comments?

15:29:43 [benadida]

this is ISSUE-28, btw

15:30:59 [mhausenblas]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28 ISSUE-28

15:32:03 [mhausenblas]

Mark: Should ensure that we are able to handle other formats

15:32:21 [mhausenblas]

... that might also around in the page

15:34:30 [mhausenblas]

http://ns.inria.fr/grddl/rdfa/

15:35:57 [mhausenblas]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jun/0010.html

15:37:56 [ShaneM]

suggestion: proile URI should be a profile URI space.... e.g. w3.org/grddl/rdfa/*

15:38:03 [mhausenblas]

ACTION: Ben to figure out the RDFa-GRDDL-profile URI (at w3.org)

15:40:57 [mhausenblas]

ACTION: Ben to take care of issues 2, 5, 25,28, 29 via list

15:41:03 [benadida]

Steven: any update on RDFa syntax doc?

15:41:23 [mhausenblas]

Topic: 3. Schedule and Document Status

15:41:24 [Steven]

Not publicly

15:41:39 [Steven]

I need to talk to you about integrating it into the XHTML pubs system

15:41:49 [Steven]

But maybe Shane can talk about that since he's on the call

15:42:05 [Steven]

(how committed are you to using XMLSpec?)

15:44:15 [mhausenblas]

Ben: I'm happy to put some time into it

15:46:29 [mhausenblas]

Mark: I am also willing to heavily contribute

15:48:41 [mhausenblas]

Shane: Stumbled over it when reading the -> http://www.w3.org/2006/11/XHTML2-WG-charter.html XHTML 2 charter

15:51:26 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

15:52:24 [mhausenblas]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule Schedule

15:54:16 [ShaneM]

Note that I am on holiday from 14 -> 22 July, but we can have my bits done long before then.

15:54:29 [mhausenblas]

Ben: Let's beat the schedule

15:56:09 [ShaneM]

Steven is not aware of any upcoming publication moratoria

15:56:31 [mhausenblas]

Michael: I'm very likely not available round August (3rd baby approaching :)

15:58:07 [mhausenblas]

Mark: A bit worried about upcoming issues during this period

15:58:33 [mhausenblas]

... but when we set a dealine, this should be o.k.

16:00:24 [mhausenblas]

Ben: We need to be able to point people to answers

16:00:49 [mhausenblas]

... a good documentation is viable

16:01:05 [mhausenblas]

... lot of issue then fade away

16:01:28 [mhausenblas]

... SWD tracker can help us here

16:03:21 [mhausenblas]

Ben: Should resolve all objections till end of June

16:05:12 [mhausenblas]

Topic: 4. The @RESOURCE and @HREF situation

16:05:26 [mhausenblas]

adjourned

16:05:36 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

16:05:39 [EliasT]

+1 again

16:05:52 [Zakim]

-ShaneM

16:06:26 [mhausenblas]

ACTION: Ben to add @RESOURCE and @HREF to his task list

16:06:39 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

16:06:39 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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-Mark_Birbeck

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-EliasT

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-mhausenblas

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-Ben_Adida

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-Simone

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SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were ShaneM, +043316876aaaa, mhausenblas, Simone, EliasT, Ben_Adida, Mark_Birbeck

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16:08:19 [Steven]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

16:08:31 [Steven]

(you must make minutes after Zakim says it is over)

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