W3C

HCLSIG

15 Feb 2007

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Attendees

Present
Vipul_Kashyap, Don_Doherty, EricP, Olivier_Bodenreider, Bill_Bug, chimezie, Eric_Neumann, Jim_Mcgurk, Pam, Joanne, Alan, Susie_Stephens
Regrets
Chair
ericN
Scribe
ericP

Contents


Convene, take roll, review record

PROPOSED: accept minutes from last week as a true record

<jluciano2> second

APPROVED

Propose next HCLS call Feb 22, 2007, nominate a scribe

ericN: will be absent next week
... next meeting will be 22 Feb if Tonya can chair

ericN: pharma and clinical trials folks not engaged with http://DetailedClinicalModels.org

vipul: main player is Stan Huff from Intermountain Healthcare. this person would be a good contact

<BillBug> http://www.detailedclinicalmodels.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

<BillBug> DCM PubMed reference - PMID: 15360974

<BillBug> Integrating detailed clinical models into application development tools.

<BillBug> Huff SM, Rocha RA, Coyle JF, Narus SP

<BillBug> Medinfo. 2004;11(Pt 2):1058-62

<BillBug> VP: Represent in XML Schema now - Partners & Alan Rector working with them on OWL representation

ACTION: vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action01]

Vocabulary Versioning -- input from clinical terminology community (report from caBIG terminology panel with Harold Sobrig and Chris Shute)

ericP: any member of the IG may be an editor

ericN: person needs to be engaged and committed

<BillBug> I'm working directly on this issue with BIRNLex & OBI - working with NCBO, too. I've also got an ongoing discussion with Gilberto Fragoso at NCICB who works on NCIT.

<jluciano2> I'm interested in the Editing work, I've just been busy and not been able to cycle around to getting back on this.

<jluciano2> right, and because at this moment I've not been able to commit...

ericN: [caBIG terminology panel report]
... acknowledged importance of using OWL

<alanr> is this same as earlier call for SWD vocabulary management editor?

<jluciano2> Was anyone able to get an idea of how much time commitment would be necesssary and over what period of time???

ericN: find editor and group for semweb versioning of ontologies
... would like to get Harold ... involved

vipul: what about Daniel Rubin?

ericN: he's already committed

BillBug: what's the role of SKOS here?

ericN: ??? is already connected

alanr: same as earlier call for SWD editor?
... trying to get idea of scope
... suggest someone from OBI (Open Biomedical Initiative)

<BillBug> As AR said, OBI & GO are working together on issues related to version.

alanr: I may have a volunteer depending on scope
... reluctant myself due to growing committments

ericN: You are not satisfied with Ivan's response on this?

<scribe> ACTION: ericN to give a job description of editor's role for ??? document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action02]

<jluciano2> i have to sign off now.
take care everyone.

chimezie: versioning is in the critical path of ontology development work we are doing at CCF

BillBug: this doc is vocab versioning in generral, but you [ericN] want a conduit from HCLS?

Task Update

vipul: 1? 2? 3: will give presentation on brain form ontologies
... docs from AMS meeting: ??? and best practices
... no draft available

ericN: would like everyone to put up their working drafts, no matter how rough

ACTION: all coordinators (ericN, vipul, susie, chen, AJ) to post links to draft wiki pages to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action03]

Demo progress

Susie: vipul and I holding join BioOnt/BioRDF to coordinate demo
... outstanding action to write up scientific side of parkinsons and alzheimers use cases
... action on John Barkley to document advantages of RDF
... after that, can work on connecting the use cases
... propose informal hacking sessions

ericN: F2Fs best informal
... cannot be an [official] HCLS f2f

-> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=38539 HCLS Working Group membership page

ACTION: BillBug to fill out IE form noting Policy for Approval of Invited Experts [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Susie, vipul to organize demo hacking session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action05]

alanr: need to immediately roust other parties from outside of BioOnt/BioRDF

Susie: reallistic demo core likely to be discussed on monday
... more stuff can be added to the demo, reallistically, for after WWW

ericN: pfizer has contributed data

ACTION: EricN will discuss tox data with Alan when we meet [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action06]

vipul: someone from DSC should participate on Monday so that the demo includes this data (above the data simply merging)

<alanr> +1

<alanr> SW gathering is 1 month away. Would be better to meet in next week or two

alanr: [summary or where things are and what's required]

alanr: suggested on Monday that interested parties to look at the galleries on http://perfuse.org/
... am using that toolkit

<eneumann2> also look at ... http://simile.mit.edu/exhibit/

alanr: can link from a gene to all the images for that gene

<eneumann2> Rob Williams has offered to get m-birn mouse gene expression data for us

<eneumann2> .... Mark Ellisman (BIRN) has offered to direct 2 people from BIRN to help us where possible

alanr: access to ontologies, eg. brain anatome, nerve receptors...
... may need to construct small ontology of ...
... bit of the demo can work on communications of synapses

<BillBug> We've been accumulating distilled/structured knolwedge sources for all the domains AR asked for on the BIoONT wiki

alanr: i'll try to post this to the list to the IG list

<BillBug> for Synapses: see PMID 17098931

<BillBug> SynDB: a Synapse protein DataBase based on synapse ontology.

<BillBug> Includes synapse element ontology (SynO)

alanr: would like to log SPARQL queries as the demo progress

ACTION: alanr to mail his grocery list to the IG mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action07]

BillBug: most of those groceries are already in the wiki
... would be compelling to show gensat images

<alanr> the allen data has cross pointers to gensat.

<vipul> Alan: Can you help define the synapse ontology task better?

ACTION: EricN, BB, Alan TC to talk about what to ask from BIRN [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action08]

<vipul> May be some one from BIONT can pick it up?

<alanr> Let's talk on monday

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: alanr to mail his grocery list to the IG mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: all coordinators (ericN, vipul, susie, chen, AJ) to post links to draft wiki pages to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: BillBug to fill out IE form [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: EricN will discuss tox data with Alan when we meet [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: EricN, BB, Alan TC to talk about what to ask from BIRN [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: ericN to give a job description of editor's role for ??? document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Susie, vipul to organize demo hacking session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
 
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