IRC log of mwts on 2007-01-30

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15:39:48 [dom]
Meeting: Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconference
15:39:51 [dom]
Chair: carmelo
15:40:05 [dom]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2007Jan/0013.html
15:45:09 [dom]
Zakim, this will be TS
15:45:09 [Zakim]
ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 15 minutes
15:45:18 [dom]
RRSAgent, make log public
15:48:29 [Carmelo]
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15:53:14 [Allen]
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15:53:29 [Allen]
Hello
15:54:10 [dom]
hi all
15:55:30 [Zakim]
MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
15:55:37 [Zakim]
+Allen
15:56:25 [Allen]
dom, i thought you are not going to attend this.
15:56:55 [dom]
I am attending today; I won't be attending in two weeks from now; that said, I wasn't available to prepare the agenda since I was travelling yesterday
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15:59:00 [Allen]
Meeting: Mobile Web TS Teleconference 2006-01-30
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Chair: Carmelo
15:59:48 [Zakim]
+Carmelo
15:59:52 [dom]
ScribeNick: Allen
16:00:17 [Carmelo]
Hi
16:00:38 [Zakim]
+ +33.9.52.51.aaaa
16:00:45 [dom]
Zakim, aaaa is dom
16:00:45 [Zakim]
+dom; got it
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16:02:14 [dom]
Zakim, who's on the call?
16:02:14 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Allen, Carmelo, dom
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+??P13
16:02:29 [dom]
Zakim, ??P13 is dmitri
16:02:33 [Zakim]
+dmitri; got it
16:02:50 [Zakim]
+ +1.301.975.aabb
16:03:02 [dom]
Zakim, aabb is Janice
16:03:04 [Zakim]
+Janice; got it
16:03:16 [dom]
Till, are you planning to join the call?
16:03:44 [Till]
i was rejected twice, one moment
16:03:50 [dom]
ok, we'll wait for you
16:05:36 [Till]
sorry - isn't passcode the same as conference key?
16:05:42 [dom]
8794
16:05:50 [Till]
that's it
16:05:53 [dom]
followed by the # key
16:06:06 [Till]
i guess it's the phone
16:06:16 [Till]
doesn't recognize what i type
16:06:20 [dom]
if you can't get in, maybe try *0 to get added manually
16:06:21 [Till]
i suggest you start
16:06:23 [dom]
are you using VOIP?
16:06:34 [Till]
no, normal phone
16:06:36 [dom]
weird
16:07:25 [Zakim]
+??P33
16:07:40 [dom]
Zakim, ??P33 is Till
16:07:40 [Zakim]
+Till; got it
16:07:45 [dom]
Zakim, list attendees
16:07:45 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been Allen, Carmelo, +33.9.52.51.aaaa, dom, dmitri, +1.301.975.aabb, Janice, Till
16:08:06 [Allen]
Presents: Dom, Allen, Carmelo, Dmitri, Till
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i/Till/Till, Janice
16:09:21 [Allen]
Topic: approval of the F2F meeting minutes
16:09:28 [Allen]
dom: too ealy to do that
16:09:41 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html Draft minutes of our last week F2F
16:10:26 [dom]
[ONGOING] ACTION: Carmelo to look if NIST has a test cases/results submission system [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
16:10:40 [Allen]
Topic: framework facilities at their work place that may be suitable for maintenance of documents and tests.
16:12:17 [Allen]
carmelo: will get more details, need to get permission from supervisor
16:12:44 [Allen]
dom: two possible deliverable for the group discussed in the F2F meeting
16:12:58 [Allen]
... existing tests
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... Test submission system, tests similar to ACID tests
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... need to find existing software solution for submission of tests
16:14:55 [Allen]
Allen: no submission system in Sun and JCP
16:14:58 [dom]
[DONE] ACTION: Allen to check if there is any test case submission system/process as part of the JCP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
16:16:48 [Allen]
carmelo: can use cvs as the interface
16:17:47 [Allen]
carmelo: will get more info this afternoon
16:18:21 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/QA/TheMatrix QA Matrix
16:18:36 [Allen]
dom: everybody reviews set of test suite
16:19:16 [dom]
Technologies we need to look at: CSS Mobile Profile 1.0, DOM LEvel 1 (?), SVG Tiny, XHTML Basic, WICD Mobile
16:19:52 [Allen]
carmelo: looks about right
16:20:00 [dom]
Zakim, list attendees?
16:20:00 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, dom.
16:20:02 [dom]
Zakim, list attendees
16:20:02 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been Allen, Carmelo, +33.9.52.51.aaaa, dom, dmitri, +1.301.975.aabb, Janice, Till
16:20:37 [Allen]
dom: review and gather as many data as possible
16:20:48 [Allen]
... each person takes one
16:21:22 [dom]
ACTION: dom to survey data on XHTML Basic Test suites
16:21:46 [Allen]
dom: will take XHTML
16:21:54 [Allen]
carmelo: will take DOM
16:22:22 [Allen]
ACTION: Carmelo to take DOM
16:22:54 [Allen]
ACTION: Dmitri to take SVG
16:23:12 [Allen]
ACTION: Allen to take WICD
16:23:33 [dom]
ACTION: Till to take CSS Mobile
16:23:45 [dom]
data to collect: test suites licenses, public availability, conformance / interoperability, coverage / test assertions avaibility, mobile web relevance, test harness, automated or not
16:24:00 [dom]
and stability / status, maintenance process
16:24:20 [Allen]
dom: should try to finish in one week
16:24:39 [Allen]
... if not, let people know
16:25:19 [Allen]
... at this moment, plain text in email is fine
16:26:49 [Allen]
[OPEN] ACTION: All members to identify possible additional members either as invited experts or from member organizations.
16:27:02 [dom]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look into test cases submissions systems [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
16:27:12 [dom]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to turn the list of work items into a roadmap with a schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/25-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
16:28:24 [Allen]
dom: Till has any idea of the open test submission system?
16:28:34 [Allen]
Till: interesting idea.
16:29:23 [dom]
ACTION: Till to report on Opera's point of view on the open test suite framework
16:30:10 [Allen]
dom: will have a schedule by the end of next week
16:31:13 [Allen]
dom: next face to face meeeting?
16:31:21 [Allen]
Topic: next face to face meeting
16:31:33 [Allen]
carmelo: May is a good time
16:32:10 [Allen]
dom: two things - who is available, who can host
16:32:29 [Allen]
... typically one member host the meeting in his company
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... with food and coffee
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dom: try to figure out availability
16:33:24 [Allen]
carmelo: any of the first three weeks in May
16:34:10 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to figure out his availabilities in May
16:34:32 [Allen]
dom: probably takes two days
16:35:08 [Allen]
dom: Sun, Opera or NIST?
16:35:37 [dom]
ACTION: Carmelo to check if NIST can host a meeting in May
16:35:55 [dom]
ACTION: Till to check if Opera can host a meeting
16:36:00 [Allen]
ACTION: Allen to check with Sun to host a meeting in May
16:38:43 [Allen]
dom: may use May 7 for the meeting if no body attend WWW meeting in Canada
16:40:00 [Allen]
dom: everybody takes turns to scribe
16:40:08 [Allen]
... next week will be carmelo
16:40:24 [Allen]
... need somebody to scribe after two weeks
16:41:12 [Allen]
Allen: reference to IRC: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide
16:41:22 [Allen]
... http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
16:41:35 [Zakim]
-Carmelo
16:41:37 [Zakim]
-dom
16:41:38 [Zakim]
-Janice
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-Till
16:41:45 [Zakim]
-dmitri
16:41:46 [Allen]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-minutes.html Allen
16:42:02 [Allen]
rrsagent, bye
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-actions.rdf :
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: dom to survey data on XHTML Basic Test suites [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-21-22
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ACTION: Carmelo to take DOM [2]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-22-22
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Dmitri to take SVG [3]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-22-54
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Allen to take WICD [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-23-12
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Till to take CSS Mobile [5]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-23-33
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Till to report on Opera's point of view on the open test suite framework [6]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-29-23
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Dom to figure out his availabilities in May [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-34-10
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ACTION: Carmelo to check if NIST can host a meeting in May [8]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-35-37
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Till to check if Opera can host a meeting [9]
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-35-55
16:42:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Allen to check with Sun to host a meeting in May [10]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-mwts-irc#T16-36-00
16:42:19 [dom]
Zakim, who's on the call?
16:42:19 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Allen