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15:27:56 <ChrisW> zakim, this will be rif
15:27:57 <Zakim> ok, ChrisW; I see SW_RIF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 33 minutes
15:28:58 <ChrisW> ChrisW has changed the topic to: 21 Nov RIF agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
15:29:11 <ChrisW> Meeting: RIF Telecon 21 Nov 06
15:29:11 <ChrisW> Chair: Chris Welty
15:29:11 <ChrisW> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
15:29:55 <ChrisW> Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-rif-agenda.rdf
15:29:55 <Zakim> working on it, ChrisW
15:30:00 <Zakim> agenda+ Admin' [ChrisW]
15:30:01 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
15:30:02 <Zakim> agenda+ F2F [ChrisW]
15:30:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
15:30:04 <Zakim> agenda+ Liason [ChrisW]
15:30:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
15:30:06 <Zakim> agenda+ Technical Design [ChrisW]
15:30:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 added
15:30:09 <Zakim> agenda+ RIF-RAF [ChrisW]
15:30:10 <Zakim> agendum 5 added
15:30:11 <Zakim> agenda+ UCR [ChrisW]
15:30:13 <Zakim> agendum 6 added
15:30:15 <Zakim> agenda+ AOB [ChrisW]
15:30:17 <Zakim> agendum 7 added
15:30:19 <Zakim> done reading agenda, ChrisW
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16:01:50 <Zakim> Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
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16:01:58 <Zakim> +Mike_Dean
16:02:00 <Zakim> +[IBM]
16:02:04 <ChrisW> zakim, ibm is temporarily me
16:02:04 <Zakim> +ChrisW; got it
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16:02:35 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), +1.613.993.aaaa, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, ??P21, Sandro
16:02:44 <Zakim> +??P25
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16:02:48 <Zakim> +[IBM]
16:02:48 <pfps> zakim, ??p21 is me
16:02:48 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, ??P25 is me
16:02:50 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
16:02:52 <Zakim> +AlexKozlenkov; got it
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16:02:58 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
16:02:58 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
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16:03:29 <csma> zakim, inria is me
16:03:30 <Harold> zakim, +1.613.993.aaaa is me
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16:03:33 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
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16:03:46 <ChrisW> Stella, can you scribe today?
16:03:50 <csma> ack csma
16:03:52 <StellaMitchell> yes
16:03:56 <ChrisW> thanks
16:04:03 <ChrisW> Scribe: Stella Mitchell
16:04:04 <csma> zakim, mute me
16:04:04 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
16:04:11 <ChrisW> scribenick: StellaMitchell
16:04:18 <AlexKozlenkov> I can't hear anyone talking
16:04:36 <csma> Ok, I will do action tracking
16:04:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:04:46 <AlexKozlenkov> OK now
16:04:50 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), Harold, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, pfps, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov
16:04:54 <Zakim> ... (muted), csma (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, [IPcaller]
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16:05:45 <StellaMitchell> chris:  propose to cancel next week's telcom because chairs cannot attend
16:06:01 <StellaMitchell> ... any objections?  no
16:06:09 <csma> yes
16:06:10 <sandro> (It conflicts with W3C AC meeting)
16:06:25 <StellaMitchell> chrisw: Nov 28th telcon is cancelled
16:06:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:06:37 <csma> continued
16:06:45 <StellaMitchell> chris: action-165 continued
16:07:08 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:07:08 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Admin'" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:07:10 <csma> I did not either
16:07:15 <PaulaP> no, Francois is not here but I can ask him about the minutes
16:07:28 <csma> action-165 continued
16:07:32 <csma> action-171 continued
16:07:37 <StellaMitchell> chrisw:  still need minutes from last week's telecon
16:07:44 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:07:44 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, StellaMitchell
16:07:47 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:07:47 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, ChrisW
16:07:53 <ChrisW> zakim, close item 1
16:07:53 <Zakim> agendum 1, Admin', closed
16:07:54 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:07:55 <Zakim> 2. F2F [from ChrisW]
16:07:59 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:07:59 <Zakim> agendum 2. "F2F" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:08:03 <Allen> zakim, unmute me
16:08:03 <Zakim> Allen_Ginsberg should no longer be muted
16:08:12 <csma> zakim, unmute me
16:08:12 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
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16:09:02 <StellaMitchell> chrisw:  there is still another week for people to propose f2f5 alternatives
16:09:13 <Zakim> +Hassan_Ait-Kaci
16:09:32 <PaulaP> Francois told me he sent the minutes for the last telecon, but apparently there were some problems in receiving the emails from him
16:09:37 <StellaMitchell> allen:  regarding mitre, room is reserved for feb 26-28 
16:09:54 <StellaMitchell> ... early march is not possible
16:09:58 <ChrisW> Dates proposed: Feb26-28
16:09:59 <Zakim> +Axel_Polleres
16:10:31 <StellaMitchell> chrisw:  only one proposal so far for f2f5 and f2f6
16:10:51 <StellaMitchell> ... f2f5:  mitre
16:11:12 <josb> I put the possible dates for f2f6 in Innsbruck around the ESWC on the wiki
16:11:22 <StellaMitchell> ...f2f6  deri,  Austria
16:11:44 <josb> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F6
16:11:46 <StellaMitchell> ... correction:  there is a 2nd proposal for f2f5:  Jan, at MIT
16:12:03 <csma> action-121 done
16:12:11 <PaulaP> q+
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16:13:22 <StellaMitchell> action-183 done
16:13:23 <csma> action-122 done
16:13:43 <csma> action-183 done
16:13:44 <StellaMitchell> paula:  just sent out minutes from last week
16:14:06 <StellaMitchell> chrisw: see url above from Jos for f2f6
16:14:13 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:14:13 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Liason" taken up [from ChrisW]
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16:14:22 <PaulVincent> PRR: no news
16:14:30 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:14:30 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, StellaMitchell
16:14:49 <ChrisW> zakim, close item 3
16:14:49 <Zakim> agendum 3, Liason, closed
16:14:50 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:14:51 <Zakim> 4. Technical Design [from ChrisW]
16:14:56 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:14:56 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Technical Design" taken up [from ChrisW]
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16:15:08 <sandro> ZAY-kim ZAY-kim ZAY-kim.   :-)
16:15:22 <Hassan> yes
16:15:38 <csma> zakim, mute me
16:15:38 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
16:15:51 <StellaMitchell> action-152 continued
16:16:02 <StellaMitchell> action-153 done
16:16:06 <csma> action-142 continued
16:16:25 <StellaMitchell> sandro: i might not get to action-156
16:16:47 <Zakim> + +43.512.507.aabb
16:16:48 <StellaMitchell> chrisw:  any volunteers to take over action-156 from Sandro?
16:17:12 <MichaelKifer> zakim, aabb is me
16:17:12 <Zakim> +MichaelKifer; got it
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16:17:32 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
16:17:36 <AxelPolleres> q+
16:17:45 <StellaMitchell> frank: uc5 may not be able to be done in the core syntax
16:17:45 <Zakim> -LeoraMorgenstern
16:17:45 <csma> ack paula
16:17:53 <Allen> Here is the URL for the email on action 153 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0009
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16:18:01 <StellaMitchell> sandro: all UC will probably involve some extensions
16:18:05 <csma> zakim, unmute me
16:18:05 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
16:18:11 <StellaMitchell> chris: the point is to see what you can and cannot express with core
16:18:41 <Zakim> +GiorgosStoilos
16:18:46 <StellaMitchell> csma: yes, to help identify extensions needed
16:19:16 <AxelPolleres> +1 to csma for part of the exercises is to write down what is missing in the core and maybe propose what could be added
16:19:19 <StellaMitchell> frank::  I will take the action-156
16:19:23 <AxelPolleres> q-
16:19:24 <Zakim> +LeoraMorgenstern
16:19:32 <csma> action-126 reassigned to Frank
16:19:38 <StellaMitchell> action-157 continuted
16:19:47 <csma> s/126/156/
16:20:06 <StellaMitchell> action-159 continued
16:20:27 <PaulaP> my action is ALMOST done, so continued :)
16:20:39 <StellaMitchell> action-160 continued
16:20:47 <AlexKozlenkov> It is continued
16:20:52 <StellaMitchell> action-170 continued
16:21:03 <StellaMitchell> action-180 done
16:21:20 <StellaMitchell> action-182 continued
16:21:42 <StellaMitchell> action-184 continued
16:21:46 <Hassan> closed
16:21:51 <StellaMitchell> action-185 done
16:22:04 <StellaMitchell> action-186 continued
16:22:39 <StellaMitchell> action-188 continued
16:23:04 <StellaMitchell> chris: most minutes from fsf4 are on the f2f4 wiki page
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16:23:16 <csma> q?
16:23:17 <Zakim> -LeoraMorgenstern
16:23:34 <StellaMitchell> sandro: when to we have to approve them?
16:23:34 <csma> zakim, unmute me
16:23:34 <Zakim> csma was not muted, csma
16:23:35 <Zakim> +[IBM]
16:23:38 <Hassan> Some poste the URL please?
16:23:41 <LeoraMorgenstern> IBM is temporarily me
16:23:44 <StellaMitchell> chris: they are not quite finished yet, but main ones are there
16:23:57 <StellaMitchell> ... after they are completed, there will be 1 week to approve them
16:24:23 <StellaMitchell> chris: first main issue for discussion are the changes to the core that Harold made
16:24:33 <StellaMitchell> ... in response to resolutions from f2f4
16:24:37 <csma> zakim, mute me
16:24:37 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
16:24:53 <csma> draft minutes for F2F4, see F2F4 wiki http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F4
16:24:54 <LeoraMorgenstern> please mute me
16:25:02 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, please mute me
16:25:02 <Zakim> sorry, LeoraMorgenstern, I do not see a party named 'LeoraMorgenstern'
16:25:14 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, ibm is temporarily me
16:25:14 <Zakim> +LeoraMorgenstern; got it
16:25:18 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, please mute me
16:25:18 <Zakim> LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
16:25:22 <Hassan> q+
16:26:04 <StellaMitchell> harold:  2 parts that could be seperated:  slots seperately from optional constraints
16:27:48 <ChrisW> "slots" in this case refers to "keyword arguments" (as opposed to positional)
16:28:45 <StellaMitchell> 1st part:
16:29:10 <StellaMitchell> 2nd: part optional constraint only on rule part or on condtion part also
16:29:35 <StellaMitchell> s/also/also?
16:29:36 <csma> q?
16:30:06 <csma> ack hassan
16:30:39 <csma> zakim, unmute me
16:30:39 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
16:30:50 <StellaMitchell> hassan:  contraints views of terms and slotted terms are just like rdf
16:31:16 <StellaMitchell> ...  can have a hybrid syntax with "dot" on term also
16:33:10 <StellaMitchell> csma:  text on the wiki is correct?  yes
16:33:36 <StellaMitchell> hassan: but in slides and emails there is an error
16:34:05 <StellaMitchell> ...  it's x.1 not f.1   (?)  
16:34:31 <StellaMitchell> chrisw:   is it correct that condition language is a keyword language?
16:34:50 <StellaMitchell> hassan:  it's a convenience to avoid verbose syntax
16:35:15 <StellaMitchell> csma: which is the most general?
16:35:19 <StellaMitchell> hassan: terms
16:36:05 <StellaMitchell> chris: several people requested more concrete version of this proposal before they could accept
16:36:07 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, unmute me
16:36:07 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should no longer be muted
16:36:29 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
16:36:29 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
16:36:30 <StellaMitchell> alex:  have not had a chance to evaluate the proposal yet
16:36:43 <csma> s/terms/constraints/
16:36:50 <josb> I withdrew my skepticism, after I finally understood the presentation, after Chris' clarification at the face-to-face
16:37:05 <josb> Yes
16:37:37 <StellaMitchell> chris: are there comments from anyone else on this proposal?
16:37:58 <StellaMitchell> ... we will have to vote on it soon
16:38:05 <csma> +1 to a 1st WD before end of year!!!
16:38:09 <AlexKozlenkov> The Hassan proposal looks good although I would like to see more links to claims about relation to reactivity
16:38:50 <StellaMitchell> chris:  there were email discussions on extensibility,  kicked off by Sandro
16:39:10 <StellaMitchell> chris: one of the requirements is that the core language must be extensible
16:39:19 <sandro>  
16:39:23 <Hassan> hak -> alex: we first concentrate on Horn, then move to other kinds. Proof theory is one way (HHF)
16:39:28 <StellaMitchell> ... important part of phase 1 work is to understand the extensibility mechanism
16:40:27 <AlexKozlenkov> alex -> hak: agreed, but you are saying nice things about the basis being there already, which is good but more detils would be nice to have
16:40:30 <StellaMitchell> sandro: we talked about extensibility last week
16:40:49 <StellaMitchell> ... how to you characterize what will go wrong if you ignore part of the syntax that you don't understand
16:41:17 <AlexKozlenkov> zakim, mute me
16:41:17 <Zakim> AlexKozlenkov was already muted, AlexKozlenkov
16:41:19 <Hassan> hak -> alex: point taken - I will provide what I know, and will take it from there
16:42:22 <StellaMitchell> csma: I just sent an email related to this. we need something more general that "body implies head"
16:43:16 <StellaMitchell> ... also, we do not have a resolution on  ??
16:43:26 <StellaMitchell> chris: we will take it offline and look through the minutes
16:43:27 <AlexKozlenkov> It would help mu action point about extensibility
16:43:36 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:43:36 <Zakim> agendum 5. "RIF-RAF" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:43:40 <AlexKozlenkov> s/mu/my
16:43:51 <csma> ...on having a common syntax for all dialects
16:43:55 <StellaMitchell> action-148 continued
16:44:15 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, unmute me
16:44:15 <Zakim> LeoraMorgenstern should no longer be muted
16:44:16 <StellaMitchell> actoin-172 continued
16:44:25 <StellaMitchell> s/action/action
16:44:34 <LeoraMorgenstern> zakim, mute me
16:44:34 <Zakim> LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
16:44:37 <Hassan>  continued
16:44:38 <StellaMitchell> action-173 continued
16:45:03 <StellaMitchell> action-174 continued
16:45:06 <AxelPolleres> Action continued!
16:45:10 <StellaMitchell> action-175 continued
16:45:16 <StellaMitchell> action-176 continued
16:45:19 <PaulaP> continued
16:45:22 <StellaMitchell> action-177 continued
16:45:27 <StellaMitchell> action-179 continued
16:45:36 <StellaMitchell> s/actoin/action
16:45:55 <Hassan> thanks
16:46:43 <StellaMitchell> chris: any other things to report on RIFRAF?  Leora or Axel?
16:46:49 <AxelPolleres> not at the moment... I start working on it intensively this thu
16:47:03 <LeoraMorgenstern> I"m here
16:47:10 <LeoraMorgenstern> I don't know why you can't here me.
16:47:14 <Zakim> -Mala_Mehrotra
16:47:16 <LeoraMorgenstern> No, nothing to report  on rifraf.
16:47:18 <ChrisW> ack leora
16:47:50 <StellaMitchell> zakim, next item
16:47:50 <Zakim> agendum 6. "UCR" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:47:59 <StellaMitchell> action-38 continued
16:48:03 <StellaMitchell> action-41 done
16:48:09 <LeoraMorgenstern> typo above: that should "I don't know why you can't hear me"
16:48:47 <StellaMitchell> s/can't here me/can't hear me/
16:48:56 <StellaMitchell> action-106 complete
16:49:40 <StellaMitchell> action-144 continued
16:50:47 <StellaMitchell> chris: Paul, can you take a look at the current draft and send your comments to Allen
16:50:54 <StellaMitchell> paul: yes
16:51:05 <Hassan> I know continued
16:51:14 <StellaMitchell> action-169 continued
16:51:27 <StellaMitchell> action-181 continued
16:51:46 <StellaMitchell> chris: allen, what is status for the UC document?
16:51:47 <PaulVincent> ACTION-131 was completed and reported on last month...
16:52:36 <StellaMitchell> allen: a main thing that needs to be done is to limit the requirements that need to be linked to
16:52:49 <StellaMitchell> paula: I already did that - with UC 2
16:53:08 <ChrisW> action: Allen to send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula's draft of UC2
16:53:08 <rifbot> Created ACTION-189 - Send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula\'s draft of UC2 [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
16:53:33 <StellaMitchell> chris: need definition of "covers" finished
16:53:51 <StellaMitchell> chris: are functional vs. non-functional reqquirements discussed in the doc?
16:53:54 <StellaMitchell> allen: yes
16:54:06 <StellaMitchell> csma:  I think it is confusing the way it is written
16:54:21 <StellaMitchell> chris and csma: can the general requirements be listed first?
16:55:14 <StellaMitchell> allen:  ok, and also will remove them from the phase sections
16:55:20 <ChrisW> action: allen to move "general" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates
16:55:20 <rifbot> Created ACTION-190 - Move \"general\" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
16:56:09 <StellaMitchell> chris: I will review break out minutes to double check 
16:56:14 <ChrisW> q?
16:56:44 <StellaMitchell> chris: any other comments on UCR?
16:56:47 <StellaMitchell> ... none
16:57:14 <StellaMitchell> chris: next telecon will be on Dec 5th
16:57:19 <ChrisW> next telecon Dec 5
16:57:27 <Zakim> -GiorgosStoilos
16:57:28 <PaulaP> +1
16:57:29 <Hassan> +1
16:57:30 <Zakim> -AlexKozlenkov
16:57:33 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
16:57:35 <Zakim> -Harold
16:57:37 <Zakim> -DavidHirtle
16:57:37 <FrankMcCabe> happy thanksgiving folks
16:57:38 <Zakim> -PaulVincent
16:57:39 <Zakim> -Dave_Reynolds
16:57:39 <Zakim> -Hassan_Ait-Kaci
16:57:40 <PaulaP> bye
16:57:46 <Zakim> -MichaelKifer
16:57:48 <Zakim> -josb
16:57:48 <Zakim> -Axel_Polleres
16:57:49 <Zakim> -LeoraMorgenstern
16:57:50 <Zakim> -Allen_Ginsberg
16:57:51 <Zakim> -PaulaP
16:57:51 <Zakim> -FrankMcCabe
16:57:54 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:57:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
16:57:54 <Zakim> -Mike_Dean
16:58:03 <Zakim> -pfps
16:58:05 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make logs public
16:59:26 <Zakim> -StellaMitchell
16:59:58 <Zakim> -Sandro
17:00:00 <Zakim> -ChrisW
17:00:01 <Zakim> -csma
17:00:03 <Zakim> SW_RIF()11:00AM has ended
17:00:04 <Zakim> Attendees were FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb, Allen_Ginsberg, Mike_Dean, ChrisW, PaulaP, Dave_Reynolds, Sandro, pfps, AlexKozlenkov, StellaMitchell, Mala_Mehrotra, csma,
17:00:09 <Zakim> ... Harold, PaulVincent, DavidHirtle, Hassan_Ait-Kaci, Axel_Polleres, +43.512.507.aabb, MichaelKifer, Gary_Hallmark, GiorgosStoilos
17:00:18 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
17:00:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
17:01:24 <ChrisW> Regrets: IgorMozetic, JosDeRoo, MichaelSintek, MarkusKrötzsch
17:01:30 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
17:01:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
17:01:55 <ChrisW> ok, stella, the minutes are ready
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