IRC log of rif on 2006-11-21
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- zakim, this will be rif
- 15:27:57 [Zakim]
- ok, ChrisW; I see SW_RIF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 33 minutes
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- ChrisW has changed the topic to: 21 Nov RIF agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
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- Meeting: RIF Telecon 21 Nov 06
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- Chair: Chris Welty
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
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- Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-rif-agenda.rdf
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- working on it, ChrisW
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- agenda+ Admin' [ChrisW]
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- agendum 1 added
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- agenda+ F2F [ChrisW]
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- agendum 2 added
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- agenda+ Liason [ChrisW]
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- agendum 3 added
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- agenda+ Technical Design [ChrisW]
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- agendum 4 added
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- agenda+ RIF-RAF [ChrisW]
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- agendum 5 added
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- agenda+ UCR [ChrisW]
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- agendum 6 added
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- agenda+ AOB [ChrisW]
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- agendum 7 added
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- done reading agenda, ChrisW
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- SW_RIF()11:00AM has now started
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, ipcaller is me
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- +FrankMcCabe; got it
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- +LeoraMorgenstern
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- +josb
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- + +1.613.993.aaaa
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- +Allen_Ginsberg
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- zakim, mute me
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- Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
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- +[LMU]
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- +??P18
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- +Mike_Dean
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, ibm is temporarily me
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- +ChrisW; got it
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- +Dave_Reynolds (was ??P18)
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- +??P21
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- +Sandro
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), +1.613.993.aaaa, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, ??P21, Sandro
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- +??P25
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- +[INRIA]
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, ??p21 is me
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- zakim, ??P25 is me
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- +pfps; got it
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- +AlexKozlenkov; got it
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- zakim, [ibm] is temporarily me
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- +StellaMitchell; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
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- +Mala_Mehrotra
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- zakim, inria is me
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- zakim, +1.613.993.aaaa is me
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- +csma; got it
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- +Harold; got it
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- Stella, can you scribe today?
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- ack csma
- 16:03:52 [StellaMitchell]
- yes
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- thanks
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- Scribe: Stella Mitchell
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- zakim, mute me
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- csma should now be muted
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- scribenick: StellaMitchell
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- I can't hear anyone talking
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- Ok, I will do action tracking
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- +[IPcaller]
- 16:04:46 [AlexKozlenkov]
- OK now
- 16:04:50 [ChrisW]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 16:04:50 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), Harold, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, pfps, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov
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- ... (muted), csma (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, [IPcaller]
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- chris: propose to cancel next week's telcom because chairs cannot attend
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- ... any objections? no
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- yes
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- (It conflicts with W3C AC meeting)
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- chrisw: Nov 28th telcon is cancelled
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- +[IPcaller]
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- continued
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- chris: action-165 continued
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1. "Admin'" taken up [from ChrisW]
- 16:07:10 [csma]
- I did not either
- 16:07:15 [PaulaP]
- no, Francois is not here but I can ask him about the minutes
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- action-165 continued
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- action-171 continued
- 16:07:37 [StellaMitchell]
- chrisw: still need minutes from last week's telecon
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 was just opened, StellaMitchell
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 was just opened, ChrisW
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- zakim, close item 1
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- agendum 1, Admin', closed
- 16:07:54 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. F2F [from ChrisW]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "F2F" taken up [from ChrisW]
- 16:08:03 [Allen]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Allen_Ginsberg should no longer be muted
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- zakim, unmute me
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- csma should no longer be muted
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- chrisw: there is still another week for people to propose f2f5 alternatives
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- +Hassan_Ait-Kaci
- 16:09:32 [PaulaP]
- Francois told me he sent the minutes for the last telecon, but apparently there were some problems in receiving the emails from him
- 16:09:37 [StellaMitchell]
- allen: regarding mitre, room is reserved for feb 26-28
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- ... early march is not possible
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- Dates proposed: Feb26-28
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- +Axel_Polleres
- 16:10:31 [StellaMitchell]
- chrisw: only one proposal so far for f2f5 and f2f6
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- ... f2f5: mitre
- 16:11:12 [josb]
- I put the possible dates for f2f6 in Innsbruck around the ESWC on the wiki
- 16:11:22 [StellaMitchell]
- ...f2f6 deri, Austria
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F6
- 16:11:46 [StellaMitchell]
- ... correction: there is a 2nd proposal for f2f5: Jan, at MIT
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- action-121 done
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- q+
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- action-183 done
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- action-122 done
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- action-183 done
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- paula: just sent out minutes from last week
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- chrisw: see url above from Jos for f2f6
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "Liason" taken up [from ChrisW]
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- PRR: no news
- 16:14:30 [StellaMitchell]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 was just opened, StellaMitchell
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- zakim, close item 3
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- agendum 3, Liason, closed
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- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 4. Technical Design [from ChrisW]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "Technical Design" taken up [from ChrisW]
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- 16:15:08 [sandro]
- ZAY-kim ZAY-kim ZAY-kim. :-)
- 16:15:22 [Hassan]
- yes
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- zakim, mute me
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- csma should now be muted
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- action-152 continued
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- action-153 done
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- action-142 continued
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- sandro: i might not get to action-156
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- + +43.512.507.aabb
- 16:16:48 [StellaMitchell]
- chrisw: any volunteers to take over action-156 from Sandro?
- 16:17:12 [MichaelKifer]
- zakim, aabb is me
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- +MichaelKifer; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- MichaelKifer should now be muted
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- +Gary_Hallmark
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- q+
- 16:17:45 [StellaMitchell]
- frank: uc5 may not be able to be done in the core syntax
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- -LeoraMorgenstern
- 16:17:45 [csma]
- ack paula
- 16:17:53 [Allen]
- Here is the URL for the email on action 153 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0009
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- sandro: all UC will probably involve some extensions
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- zakim, unmute me
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- csma should no longer be muted
- 16:18:11 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: the point is to see what you can and cannot express with core
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- +GiorgosStoilos
- 16:18:46 [StellaMitchell]
- csma: yes, to help identify extensions needed
- 16:19:16 [AxelPolleres]
- +1 to csma for part of the exercises is to write down what is missing in the core and maybe propose what could be added
- 16:19:19 [StellaMitchell]
- frank:: I will take the action-156
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- q-
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- +LeoraMorgenstern
- 16:19:32 [csma]
- action-126 reassigned to Frank
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- action-157 continuted
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- s/126/156/
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- action-159 continued
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- my action is ALMOST done, so continued :)
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- action-160 continued
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- It is continued
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- action-170 continued
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- action-180 done
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- action-182 continued
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- action-184 continued
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- closed
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- action-185 done
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- action-186 continued
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- action-188 continued
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- chris: most minutes from fsf4 are on the f2f4 wiki page
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- q?
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- -LeoraMorgenstern
- 16:23:34 [StellaMitchell]
- sandro: when to we have to approve them?
- 16:23:34 [csma]
- zakim, unmute me
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- csma was not muted, csma
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- +[IBM]
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- Some poste the URL please?
- 16:23:41 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- IBM is temporarily me
- 16:23:44 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: they are not quite finished yet, but main ones are there
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- ... after they are completed, there will be 1 week to approve them
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- chris: first main issue for discussion are the changes to the core that Harold made
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- ... in response to resolutions from f2f4
- 16:24:37 [csma]
- zakim, mute me
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- csma should now be muted
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- draft minutes for F2F4, see F2F4 wiki http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F4
- 16:24:54 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- please mute me
- 16:25:02 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- zakim, please mute me
- 16:25:02 [Zakim]
- sorry, LeoraMorgenstern, I do not see a party named 'LeoraMorgenstern'
- 16:25:14 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- zakim, ibm is temporarily me
- 16:25:14 [Zakim]
- +LeoraMorgenstern; got it
- 16:25:18 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- zakim, please mute me
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- LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
- 16:25:22 [Hassan]
- q+
- 16:26:04 [StellaMitchell]
- harold: 2 parts that could be seperated: slots seperately from optional constraints
- 16:27:48 [ChrisW]
- "slots" in this case refers to "keyword arguments" (as opposed to positional)
- 16:28:45 [StellaMitchell]
- 1st part:
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- 2nd: part optional constraint only on rule part or on condtion part also
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- s/also/also?
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- q?
- 16:30:06 [csma]
- ack hassan
- 16:30:39 [csma]
- zakim, unmute me
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- csma should no longer be muted
- 16:30:50 [StellaMitchell]
- hassan: contraints views of terms and slotted terms are just like rdf
- 16:31:16 [StellaMitchell]
- ... can have a hybrid syntax with "dot" on term also
- 16:33:10 [StellaMitchell]
- csma: text on the wiki is correct? yes
- 16:33:36 [StellaMitchell]
- hassan: but in slides and emails there is an error
- 16:34:05 [StellaMitchell]
- ... it's x.1 not f.1 (?)
- 16:34:31 [StellaMitchell]
- chrisw: is it correct that condition language is a keyword language?
- 16:34:50 [StellaMitchell]
- hassan: it's a convenience to avoid verbose syntax
- 16:35:15 [StellaMitchell]
- csma: which is the most general?
- 16:35:19 [StellaMitchell]
- hassan: terms
- 16:36:05 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: several people requested more concrete version of this proposal before they could accept
- 16:36:07 [AlexKozlenkov]
- zakim, unmute me
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- AlexKozlenkov should no longer be muted
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- zakim, mute me
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- AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
- 16:36:30 [StellaMitchell]
- alex: have not had a chance to evaluate the proposal yet
- 16:36:43 [csma]
- s/terms/constraints/
- 16:36:50 [josb]
- I withdrew my skepticism, after I finally understood the presentation, after Chris' clarification at the face-to-face
- 16:37:05 [josb]
- Yes
- 16:37:37 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: are there comments from anyone else on this proposal?
- 16:37:58 [StellaMitchell]
- ... we will have to vote on it soon
- 16:38:05 [csma]
- +1 to a 1st WD before end of year!!!
- 16:38:09 [AlexKozlenkov]
- The Hassan proposal looks good although I would like to see more links to claims about relation to reactivity
- 16:38:50 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: there were email discussions on extensibility, kicked off by Sandro
- 16:39:10 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: one of the requirements is that the core language must be extensible
- 16:39:19 [sandro]
-
- 16:39:23 [Hassan]
- hak -> alex: we first concentrate on Horn, then move to other kinds. Proof theory is one way (HHF)
- 16:39:28 [StellaMitchell]
- ... important part of phase 1 work is to understand the extensibility mechanism
- 16:40:27 [AlexKozlenkov]
- alex -> hak: agreed, but you are saying nice things about the basis being there already, which is good but more detils would be nice to have
- 16:40:30 [StellaMitchell]
- sandro: we talked about extensibility last week
- 16:40:49 [StellaMitchell]
- ... how to you characterize what will go wrong if you ignore part of the syntax that you don't understand
- 16:41:17 [AlexKozlenkov]
- zakim, mute me
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- AlexKozlenkov was already muted, AlexKozlenkov
- 16:41:19 [Hassan]
- hak -> alex: point taken - I will provide what I know, and will take it from there
- 16:42:22 [StellaMitchell]
- csma: I just sent an email related to this. we need something more general that "body implies head"
- 16:43:16 [StellaMitchell]
- ... also, we do not have a resolution on ??
- 16:43:26 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: we will take it offline and look through the minutes
- 16:43:27 [AlexKozlenkov]
- It would help mu action point about extensibility
- 16:43:36 [StellaMitchell]
- zakim, next item
- 16:43:36 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "RIF-RAF" taken up [from ChrisW]
- 16:43:40 [AlexKozlenkov]
- s/mu/my
- 16:43:51 [csma]
- ...on having a common syntax for all dialects
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- action-148 continued
- 16:44:15 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- zakim, unmute me
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- LeoraMorgenstern should no longer be muted
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- actoin-172 continued
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- s/action/action
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- zakim, mute me
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- LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
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- continued
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- action-173 continued
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- action-174 continued
- 16:45:06 [AxelPolleres]
- Action continued!
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- action-175 continued
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- action-176 continued
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- continued
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- action-177 continued
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- action-179 continued
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- s/actoin/action
- 16:45:55 [Hassan]
- thanks
- 16:46:43 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: any other things to report on RIFRAF? Leora or Axel?
- 16:46:49 [AxelPolleres]
- not at the moment... I start working on it intensively this thu
- 16:47:03 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- I"m here
- 16:47:10 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- I don't know why you can't here me.
- 16:47:14 [Zakim]
- -Mala_Mehrotra
- 16:47:16 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- No, nothing to report on rifraf.
- 16:47:18 [ChrisW]
- ack leora
- 16:47:50 [StellaMitchell]
- zakim, next item
- 16:47:50 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "UCR" taken up [from ChrisW]
- 16:47:59 [StellaMitchell]
- action-38 continued
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- action-41 done
- 16:48:09 [LeoraMorgenstern]
- typo above: that should "I don't know why you can't hear me"
- 16:48:47 [StellaMitchell]
- s/can't here me/can't hear me/
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- action-106 complete
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- action-144 continued
- 16:50:47 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: Paul, can you take a look at the current draft and send your comments to Allen
- 16:50:54 [StellaMitchell]
- paul: yes
- 16:51:05 [Hassan]
- I know continued
- 16:51:14 [StellaMitchell]
- action-169 continued
- 16:51:27 [StellaMitchell]
- action-181 continued
- 16:51:46 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: allen, what is status for the UC document?
- 16:51:47 [PaulVincent]
- ACTION-131 was completed and reported on last month...
- 16:52:36 [StellaMitchell]
- allen: a main thing that needs to be done is to limit the requirements that need to be linked to
- 16:52:49 [StellaMitchell]
- paula: I already did that - with UC 2
- 16:53:08 [ChrisW]
- action: Allen to send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula's draft of UC2
- 16:53:08 [rifbot]
- Created ACTION-189 - Send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula\'s draft of UC2 [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
- 16:53:33 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: need definition of "covers" finished
- 16:53:51 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: are functional vs. non-functional reqquirements discussed in the doc?
- 16:53:54 [StellaMitchell]
- allen: yes
- 16:54:06 [StellaMitchell]
- csma: I think it is confusing the way it is written
- 16:54:21 [StellaMitchell]
- chris and csma: can the general requirements be listed first?
- 16:55:14 [StellaMitchell]
- allen: ok, and also will remove them from the phase sections
- 16:55:20 [ChrisW]
- action: allen to move "general" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates
- 16:55:20 [rifbot]
- Created ACTION-190 - Move \"general\" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
- 16:56:09 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: I will review break out minutes to double check
- 16:56:14 [ChrisW]
- q?
- 16:56:44 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: any other comments on UCR?
- 16:56:47 [StellaMitchell]
- ... none
- 16:57:14 [StellaMitchell]
- chris: next telecon will be on Dec 5th
- 16:57:19 [ChrisW]
- next telecon Dec 5
- 16:57:27 [Zakim]
- -GiorgosStoilos
- 16:57:28 [PaulaP]
- +1
- 16:57:29 [Hassan]
- +1
- 16:57:30 [Zakim]
- -AlexKozlenkov
- 16:57:33 [Zakim]
- -Gary_Hallmark
- 16:57:35 [Zakim]
- -Harold
- 16:57:37 [Zakim]
- -DavidHirtle
- 16:57:37 [FrankMcCabe]
- happy thanksgiving folks
- 16:57:38 [Zakim]
- -PaulVincent
- 16:57:39 [Zakim]
- -Dave_Reynolds
- 16:57:39 [Zakim]
- -Hassan_Ait-Kaci
- 16:57:40 [PaulaP]
- bye
- 16:57:46 [Zakim]
- -MichaelKifer
- 16:57:48 [Zakim]
- -josb
- 16:57:48 [Zakim]
- -Axel_Polleres
- 16:57:49 [Zakim]
- -LeoraMorgenstern
- 16:57:50 [Zakim]
- -Allen_Ginsberg
- 16:57:51 [Zakim]
- -PaulaP
- 16:57:51 [Zakim]
- -FrankMcCabe
- 16:57:54 [ChrisW]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 16:57:54 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
- 16:58:03 [Zakim]
- -pfps
- 16:58:05 [ChrisW]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 16:59:26 [Zakim]
- -StellaMitchell
- 16:59:58 [Zakim]
- -Sandro
- 17:00:00 [Zakim]
- -ChrisW
- 17:00:01 [Zakim]
- -csma
- 17:00:03 [Zakim]
- SW_RIF()11:00AM has ended
- 17:00:04 [Zakim]
- Attendees were FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb, Allen_Ginsberg, Mike_Dean, ChrisW, PaulaP, Dave_Reynolds, Sandro, pfps, AlexKozlenkov, StellaMitchell, Mala_Mehrotra, csma,
- 17:00:09 [Zakim]
- ... Harold, PaulVincent, DavidHirtle, Hassan_Ait-Kaci, Axel_Polleres, +43.512.507.aabb, MichaelKifer, Gary_Hallmark, GiorgosStoilos
- 17:00:18 [ChrisW]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 17:00:18 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
- 17:01:24 [ChrisW]
- Regrets: IgorMozetic, JosDeRoo, MichaelSintek, MarkusKr�tzsch
- 17:01:30 [ChrisW]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 17:01:30 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
- 17:01:55 [ChrisW]
- ok, stella, the minutes are ready
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