IRC log of rif on 2006-11-21

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15:27:56 [ChrisW]
zakim, this will be rif
15:27:57 [Zakim]
ok, ChrisW; I see SW_RIF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 33 minutes
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ChrisW has changed the topic to: 21 Nov RIF agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
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Meeting: RIF Telecon 21 Nov 06
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Chair: Chris Welty
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0079.html
15:29:55 [ChrisW]
Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2006/10/17-rif-agenda.rdf
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working on it, ChrisW
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agenda+ Admin' [ChrisW]
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agendum 1 added
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agenda+ F2F [ChrisW]
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agendum 2 added
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agenda+ Liason [ChrisW]
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agendum 3 added
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agenda+ Technical Design [ChrisW]
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agendum 4 added
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agenda+ RIF-RAF [ChrisW]
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agendum 5 added
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agenda+ UCR [ChrisW]
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agendum 6 added
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agenda+ AOB [ChrisW]
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agendum 7 added
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done reading agenda, ChrisW
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SW_RIF()11:00AM has now started
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, ipcaller is me
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+FrankMcCabe; got it
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+LeoraMorgenstern
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+josb
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+ +1.613.993.aaaa
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+Allen_Ginsberg
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zakim, mute me
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Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
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+[LMU]
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+??P18
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+Mike_Dean
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+[IBM]
16:02:04 [ChrisW]
zakim, ibm is temporarily me
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+ChrisW; got it
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+Dave_Reynolds (was ??P18)
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+??P21
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+Sandro
16:02:35 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:37 [Zakim]
On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), +1.613.993.aaaa, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, ??P21, Sandro
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+??P25
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+[INRIA]
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+[IBM]
16:02:48 [pfps]
zakim, ??p21 is me
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zakim, ??P25 is me
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+pfps; got it
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+AlexKozlenkov; got it
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zakim, [ibm] is temporarily me
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+StellaMitchell; got it
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zakim, mute me
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AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
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+Mala_Mehrotra
16:03:29 [csma]
zakim, inria is me
16:03:30 [Harold]
zakim, +1.613.993.aaaa is me
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+csma; got it
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+Harold; got it
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16:03:46 [ChrisW]
Stella, can you scribe today?
16:03:50 [csma]
ack csma
16:03:52 [StellaMitchell]
yes
16:03:56 [ChrisW]
thanks
16:04:03 [ChrisW]
Scribe: Stella Mitchell
16:04:04 [csma]
zakim, mute me
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csma should now be muted
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scribenick: StellaMitchell
16:04:18 [AlexKozlenkov]
I can't hear anyone talking
16:04:36 [csma]
Ok, I will do action tracking
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+[IPcaller]
16:04:46 [AlexKozlenkov]
OK now
16:04:50 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:50 [Zakim]
On the phone I see FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb (muted), Harold, Allen_Ginsberg (muted), PaulaP (muted), Mike_Dean, Dave_Reynolds, ChrisW, pfps, Sandro, AlexKozlenkov
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... (muted), csma (muted), StellaMitchell (muted), Mala_Mehrotra, [IPcaller]
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chris: propose to cancel next week's telcom because chairs cannot attend
16:06:01 [StellaMitchell]
... any objections? no
16:06:09 [csma]
yes
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(It conflicts with W3C AC meeting)
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chrisw: Nov 28th telcon is cancelled
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+[IPcaller]
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continued
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chris: action-165 continued
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zakim, next item
16:07:08 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Admin'" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:07:10 [csma]
I did not either
16:07:15 [PaulaP]
no, Francois is not here but I can ask him about the minutes
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action-165 continued
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action-171 continued
16:07:37 [StellaMitchell]
chrisw: still need minutes from last week's telecon
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 was just opened, StellaMitchell
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 was just opened, ChrisW
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zakim, close item 1
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agendum 1, Admin', closed
16:07:54 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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2. F2F [from ChrisW]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2. "F2F" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:08:03 [Allen]
zakim, unmute me
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Allen_Ginsberg should no longer be muted
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zakim, unmute me
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csma should no longer be muted
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16:09:02 [StellaMitchell]
chrisw: there is still another week for people to propose f2f5 alternatives
16:09:13 [Zakim]
+Hassan_Ait-Kaci
16:09:32 [PaulaP]
Francois told me he sent the minutes for the last telecon, but apparently there were some problems in receiving the emails from him
16:09:37 [StellaMitchell]
allen: regarding mitre, room is reserved for feb 26-28
16:09:54 [StellaMitchell]
... early march is not possible
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Dates proposed: Feb26-28
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+Axel_Polleres
16:10:31 [StellaMitchell]
chrisw: only one proposal so far for f2f5 and f2f6
16:10:51 [StellaMitchell]
... f2f5: mitre
16:11:12 [josb]
I put the possible dates for f2f6 in Innsbruck around the ESWC on the wiki
16:11:22 [StellaMitchell]
...f2f6 deri, Austria
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http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F6
16:11:46 [StellaMitchell]
... correction: there is a 2nd proposal for f2f5: Jan, at MIT
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action-121 done
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q+
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action-183 done
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action-122 done
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action-183 done
16:13:44 [StellaMitchell]
paula: just sent out minutes from last week
16:14:06 [StellaMitchell]
chrisw: see url above from Jos for f2f6
16:14:13 [StellaMitchell]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3. "Liason" taken up [from ChrisW]
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16:14:22 [PaulVincent]
PRR: no news
16:14:30 [StellaMitchell]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3 was just opened, StellaMitchell
16:14:49 [ChrisW]
zakim, close item 3
16:14:49 [Zakim]
agendum 3, Liason, closed
16:14:50 [Zakim]
I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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4. Technical Design [from ChrisW]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4. "Technical Design" taken up [from ChrisW]
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16:15:08 [sandro]
ZAY-kim ZAY-kim ZAY-kim. :-)
16:15:22 [Hassan]
yes
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zakim, mute me
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csma should now be muted
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action-152 continued
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action-153 done
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action-142 continued
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sandro: i might not get to action-156
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+ +43.512.507.aabb
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chrisw: any volunteers to take over action-156 from Sandro?
16:17:12 [MichaelKifer]
zakim, aabb is me
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+MichaelKifer; got it
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zakim, mute me
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MichaelKifer should now be muted
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+Gary_Hallmark
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q+
16:17:45 [StellaMitchell]
frank: uc5 may not be able to be done in the core syntax
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-LeoraMorgenstern
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ack paula
16:17:53 [Allen]
Here is the URL for the email on action 153 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Nov/0009
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sandro: all UC will probably involve some extensions
16:18:05 [csma]
zakim, unmute me
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csma should no longer be muted
16:18:11 [StellaMitchell]
chris: the point is to see what you can and cannot express with core
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+GiorgosStoilos
16:18:46 [StellaMitchell]
csma: yes, to help identify extensions needed
16:19:16 [AxelPolleres]
+1 to csma for part of the exercises is to write down what is missing in the core and maybe propose what could be added
16:19:19 [StellaMitchell]
frank:: I will take the action-156
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q-
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+LeoraMorgenstern
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action-126 reassigned to Frank
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action-157 continuted
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s/126/156/
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action-159 continued
16:20:27 [PaulaP]
my action is ALMOST done, so continued :)
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action-160 continued
16:20:47 [AlexKozlenkov]
It is continued
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action-170 continued
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action-180 done
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action-182 continued
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action-184 continued
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closed
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action-185 done
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action-186 continued
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action-188 continued
16:23:04 [StellaMitchell]
chris: most minutes from fsf4 are on the f2f4 wiki page
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q?
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-LeoraMorgenstern
16:23:34 [StellaMitchell]
sandro: when to we have to approve them?
16:23:34 [csma]
zakim, unmute me
16:23:34 [Zakim]
csma was not muted, csma
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+[IBM]
16:23:38 [Hassan]
Some poste the URL please?
16:23:41 [LeoraMorgenstern]
IBM is temporarily me
16:23:44 [StellaMitchell]
chris: they are not quite finished yet, but main ones are there
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... after they are completed, there will be 1 week to approve them
16:24:23 [StellaMitchell]
chris: first main issue for discussion are the changes to the core that Harold made
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... in response to resolutions from f2f4
16:24:37 [csma]
zakim, mute me
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csma should now be muted
16:24:53 [csma]
draft minutes for F2F4, see F2F4 wiki http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F4
16:24:54 [LeoraMorgenstern]
please mute me
16:25:02 [LeoraMorgenstern]
zakim, please mute me
16:25:02 [Zakim]
sorry, LeoraMorgenstern, I do not see a party named 'LeoraMorgenstern'
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zakim, ibm is temporarily me
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+LeoraMorgenstern; got it
16:25:18 [LeoraMorgenstern]
zakim, please mute me
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LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
16:25:22 [Hassan]
q+
16:26:04 [StellaMitchell]
harold: 2 parts that could be seperated: slots seperately from optional constraints
16:27:48 [ChrisW]
"slots" in this case refers to "keyword arguments" (as opposed to positional)
16:28:45 [StellaMitchell]
1st part:
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2nd: part optional constraint only on rule part or on condtion part also
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s/also/also?
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q?
16:30:06 [csma]
ack hassan
16:30:39 [csma]
zakim, unmute me
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csma should no longer be muted
16:30:50 [StellaMitchell]
hassan: contraints views of terms and slotted terms are just like rdf
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... can have a hybrid syntax with "dot" on term also
16:33:10 [StellaMitchell]
csma: text on the wiki is correct? yes
16:33:36 [StellaMitchell]
hassan: but in slides and emails there is an error
16:34:05 [StellaMitchell]
... it's x.1 not f.1 (?)
16:34:31 [StellaMitchell]
chrisw: is it correct that condition language is a keyword language?
16:34:50 [StellaMitchell]
hassan: it's a convenience to avoid verbose syntax
16:35:15 [StellaMitchell]
csma: which is the most general?
16:35:19 [StellaMitchell]
hassan: terms
16:36:05 [StellaMitchell]
chris: several people requested more concrete version of this proposal before they could accept
16:36:07 [AlexKozlenkov]
zakim, unmute me
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AlexKozlenkov should no longer be muted
16:36:29 [AlexKozlenkov]
zakim, mute me
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AlexKozlenkov should now be muted
16:36:30 [StellaMitchell]
alex: have not had a chance to evaluate the proposal yet
16:36:43 [csma]
s/terms/constraints/
16:36:50 [josb]
I withdrew my skepticism, after I finally understood the presentation, after Chris' clarification at the face-to-face
16:37:05 [josb]
Yes
16:37:37 [StellaMitchell]
chris: are there comments from anyone else on this proposal?
16:37:58 [StellaMitchell]
... we will have to vote on it soon
16:38:05 [csma]
+1 to a 1st WD before end of year!!!
16:38:09 [AlexKozlenkov]
The Hassan proposal looks good although I would like to see more links to claims about relation to reactivity
16:38:50 [StellaMitchell]
chris: there were email discussions on extensibility, kicked off by Sandro
16:39:10 [StellaMitchell]
chris: one of the requirements is that the core language must be extensible
16:39:19 [sandro]
16:39:23 [Hassan]
hak -> alex: we first concentrate on Horn, then move to other kinds. Proof theory is one way (HHF)
16:39:28 [StellaMitchell]
... important part of phase 1 work is to understand the extensibility mechanism
16:40:27 [AlexKozlenkov]
alex -> hak: agreed, but you are saying nice things about the basis being there already, which is good but more detils would be nice to have
16:40:30 [StellaMitchell]
sandro: we talked about extensibility last week
16:40:49 [StellaMitchell]
... how to you characterize what will go wrong if you ignore part of the syntax that you don't understand
16:41:17 [AlexKozlenkov]
zakim, mute me
16:41:17 [Zakim]
AlexKozlenkov was already muted, AlexKozlenkov
16:41:19 [Hassan]
hak -> alex: point taken - I will provide what I know, and will take it from there
16:42:22 [StellaMitchell]
csma: I just sent an email related to this. we need something more general that "body implies head"
16:43:16 [StellaMitchell]
... also, we do not have a resolution on ??
16:43:26 [StellaMitchell]
chris: we will take it offline and look through the minutes
16:43:27 [AlexKozlenkov]
It would help mu action point about extensibility
16:43:36 [StellaMitchell]
zakim, next item
16:43:36 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "RIF-RAF" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:43:40 [AlexKozlenkov]
s/mu/my
16:43:51 [csma]
...on having a common syntax for all dialects
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action-148 continued
16:44:15 [LeoraMorgenstern]
zakim, unmute me
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LeoraMorgenstern should no longer be muted
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actoin-172 continued
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s/action/action
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zakim, mute me
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LeoraMorgenstern should now be muted
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continued
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action-173 continued
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action-174 continued
16:45:06 [AxelPolleres]
Action continued!
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action-175 continued
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action-176 continued
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continued
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action-177 continued
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action-179 continued
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s/actoin/action
16:45:55 [Hassan]
thanks
16:46:43 [StellaMitchell]
chris: any other things to report on RIFRAF? Leora or Axel?
16:46:49 [AxelPolleres]
not at the moment... I start working on it intensively this thu
16:47:03 [LeoraMorgenstern]
I"m here
16:47:10 [LeoraMorgenstern]
I don't know why you can't here me.
16:47:14 [Zakim]
-Mala_Mehrotra
16:47:16 [LeoraMorgenstern]
No, nothing to report on rifraf.
16:47:18 [ChrisW]
ack leora
16:47:50 [StellaMitchell]
zakim, next item
16:47:50 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "UCR" taken up [from ChrisW]
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action-38 continued
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action-41 done
16:48:09 [LeoraMorgenstern]
typo above: that should "I don't know why you can't hear me"
16:48:47 [StellaMitchell]
s/can't here me/can't hear me/
16:48:56 [StellaMitchell]
action-106 complete
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action-144 continued
16:50:47 [StellaMitchell]
chris: Paul, can you take a look at the current draft and send your comments to Allen
16:50:54 [StellaMitchell]
paul: yes
16:51:05 [Hassan]
I know continued
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action-169 continued
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action-181 continued
16:51:46 [StellaMitchell]
chris: allen, what is status for the UC document?
16:51:47 [PaulVincent]
ACTION-131 was completed and reported on last month...
16:52:36 [StellaMitchell]
allen: a main thing that needs to be done is to limit the requirements that need to be linked to
16:52:49 [StellaMitchell]
paula: I already did that - with UC 2
16:53:08 [ChrisW]
action: Allen to send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula's draft of UC2
16:53:08 [rifbot]
Created ACTION-189 - Send email to link use cases to requirements based on Paula\'s draft of UC2 [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
16:53:33 [StellaMitchell]
chris: need definition of "covers" finished
16:53:51 [StellaMitchell]
chris: are functional vs. non-functional reqquirements discussed in the doc?
16:53:54 [StellaMitchell]
allen: yes
16:54:06 [StellaMitchell]
csma: I think it is confusing the way it is written
16:54:21 [StellaMitchell]
chris and csma: can the general requirements be listed first?
16:55:14 [StellaMitchell]
allen: ok, and also will remove them from the phase sections
16:55:20 [ChrisW]
action: allen to move "general" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates
16:55:20 [rifbot]
Created ACTION-190 - Move \"general\" requirements to beginning of section and remove duplicates [on Allen Ginsberg - due 2006-11-28].
16:56:09 [StellaMitchell]
chris: I will review break out minutes to double check
16:56:14 [ChrisW]
q?
16:56:44 [StellaMitchell]
chris: any other comments on UCR?
16:56:47 [StellaMitchell]
... none
16:57:14 [StellaMitchell]
chris: next telecon will be on Dec 5th
16:57:19 [ChrisW]
next telecon Dec 5
16:57:27 [Zakim]
-GiorgosStoilos
16:57:28 [PaulaP]
+1
16:57:29 [Hassan]
+1
16:57:30 [Zakim]
-AlexKozlenkov
16:57:33 [Zakim]
-Gary_Hallmark
16:57:35 [Zakim]
-Harold
16:57:37 [Zakim]
-DavidHirtle
16:57:37 [FrankMcCabe]
happy thanksgiving folks
16:57:38 [Zakim]
-PaulVincent
16:57:39 [Zakim]
-Dave_Reynolds
16:57:39 [Zakim]
-Hassan_Ait-Kaci
16:57:40 [PaulaP]
bye
16:57:46 [Zakim]
-MichaelKifer
16:57:48 [Zakim]
-josb
16:57:48 [Zakim]
-Axel_Polleres
16:57:49 [Zakim]
-LeoraMorgenstern
16:57:50 [Zakim]
-Allen_Ginsberg
16:57:51 [Zakim]
-PaulaP
16:57:51 [Zakim]
-FrankMcCabe
16:57:54 [ChrisW]
rrsagent, make minutes
16:57:54 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
16:58:03 [Zakim]
-pfps
16:58:05 [ChrisW]
rrsagent, make logs public
16:59:26 [Zakim]
-StellaMitchell
16:59:58 [Zakim]
-Sandro
17:00:00 [Zakim]
-ChrisW
17:00:01 [Zakim]
-csma
17:00:03 [Zakim]
SW_RIF()11:00AM has ended
17:00:04 [Zakim]
Attendees were FrankMcCabe, LeoraMorgenstern, josb, Allen_Ginsberg, Mike_Dean, ChrisW, PaulaP, Dave_Reynolds, Sandro, pfps, AlexKozlenkov, StellaMitchell, Mala_Mehrotra, csma,
17:00:09 [Zakim]
... Harold, PaulVincent, DavidHirtle, Hassan_Ait-Kaci, Axel_Polleres, +43.512.507.aabb, MichaelKifer, Gary_Hallmark, GiorgosStoilos
17:00:18 [ChrisW]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:00:18 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
17:01:24 [ChrisW]
Regrets: IgorMozetic, JosDeRoo, MichaelSintek, MarkusKr�tzsch
17:01:30 [ChrisW]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:01:30 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
17:01:55 [ChrisW]
ok, stella, the minutes are ready
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