<scribe> scribe: benadida
<EliasT> Chair: benadida
Steven: F2F with HTML WG last
week, briefly cover RDFa
... nothing significant to report on this front.
... HTML WG is behind the TF
Ben: in last call?
Steven: soon
Ben: namespace URI for XHTML2?
Steven: continue to use the XHTML1 namespace? problem with # or / at the end
Ben: how does that work with new elements?
Steven: nothing wrong with adding new elements to namespace
MarkB: 83261 (a new temp one)
Elias: no change in semantics in any of the existing elements?
Steven: namespaces don't define content model, only disambiguate which elements you're talking about
Elias: won't the browser makers complain about how to differentiate between XHTML1 and XHTML2?
Steven: not what the namespace is
for. There is discussion around here.
... namespace spec does not spec that namespaces should be used
to decide how to process
Elias: are implementors on the WG?
Steven: yes some, there may be a version attribute to differentiate the versions
Ben: is there a change in the MIME type?
Steven: the base MIME type stays
the same
... profile can help differentiate between diff versions of
XHTML
Elias: is profile in XHTML2?
<Steven> it's in the media type
Steven: the profile is in the
media type, not in the document
... have to use the longer media type for XHTML2
MarkB: won't run out of space here
Elias: yes, but it doesn't seem like the most practical thing to do
MarkB: this discussion has been quite long
Elias: I would imagine others are having the same objections, this direction seems awkward
Steven: already used on mobile
Elias: not much code out there
for this, e.g. python script that outputs the headers
myself
... no library with the proper header output
MarkB: maybe this should be abstracted out,
Elias: from my perspective of
coding this up, this seems more complicated
... very little code to do mime type parameters
... in the end, end-users don't need this, of course, but
worried about adoption by developers
Ben: sample XHTML2 document + headers and all?
Steven: not yet, but we should have one
<MarkB_> Ben: Elias isn't saying it's more complicated, just that it's more to type.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
Steven: discussion about CURIEs and bnodes came up
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-html-minutes#item03
<Steven> member only
<scribe> ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only [CONTINUES] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action02]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html
<scribe> ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
<Steven> That means Monday for me
<Steven> Weds and Fri already taken
Possibilities: Friday 9am, Monday 9,10,11,
no on Monday 11
next meeting: Monday, Sep. 25th, 9am
[unscribed discussion about how to "flag an RDFa page," with explanations coming on the mailing list. Lack of scribing due to lack of manpower, nothing confidential.]
1300 UTC
<RalphS> hey, sorry, folks; I never put this in my calendar for today :(
going over actions:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html
<Steven> ralph, call moved to next monday
<scribe> ACTION: Mark add words about anonymous nodes to CURIE editors' draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action05]
<Steven> OK with you? 13UTC
<scribe> -- DONE
<RalphS> Monday 1300Z will be a squeeze for me but I think I can do it
<scribe> ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]
<RalphS> I won't be able to do Mondays 1300Z on a regular basis though
<scribe> ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: Ben update the issues list [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1 [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]
Ben: GRDDL WG receptive
RDFa
... still working on convincing WG on the specific use case of
hGRDDL
<scribe> ACTION: Mark contact schneegans.de folk about connecting with our work [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action11]