W3C

RDF-in-HTML Task Force Weekly Telecon

19 Sep 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous

Attendees

Present
Steven, EliasT, benadida, MarkB_
Regrets
Chair
benadida
Scribe
benadida

Contents


 

 

<scribe> scribe: benadida

<EliasT> Chair: benadida

Steven: F2F with HTML WG last week, briefly cover RDFa
... nothing significant to report on this front.
... HTML WG is behind the TF

Ben: in last call?

Steven: soon

Ben: namespace URI for XHTML2?

Steven: continue to use the XHTML1 namespace? problem with # or / at the end

Ben: how does that work with new elements?

Steven: nothing wrong with adding new elements to namespace

MarkB: 83261 (a new temp one)

Elias: no change in semantics in any of the existing elements?

Steven: namespaces don't define content model, only disambiguate which elements you're talking about

Elias: won't the browser makers complain about how to differentiate between XHTML1 and XHTML2?

Steven: not what the namespace is for. There is discussion around here.
... namespace spec does not spec that namespaces should be used to decide how to process

Elias: are implementors on the WG?

Steven: yes some, there may be a version attribute to differentiate the versions

Ben: is there a change in the MIME type?

Steven: the base MIME type stays the same
... profile can help differentiate between diff versions of XHTML

Elias: is profile in XHTML2?

<Steven> it's in the media type

Steven: the profile is in the media type, not in the document
... have to use the longer media type for XHTML2

MarkB: won't run out of space here

Elias: yes, but it doesn't seem like the most practical thing to do

MarkB: this discussion has been quite long

Elias: I would imagine others are having the same objections, this direction seems awkward

Steven: already used on mobile

Elias: not much code out there for this, e.g. python script that outputs the headers myself
... no library with the proper header output

MarkB: maybe this should be abstracted out,

Elias: from my perspective of coding this up, this seems more complicated
... very little code to do mime type parameters
... in the end, end-users don't need this, of course, but worried about adoption by developers

Ben: sample XHTML2 document + headers and all?

Steven: not yet, but we should have one

<MarkB_> Ben: Elias isn't saying it's more complicated, just that it's more to type.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

Steven: discussion about CURIEs and bnodes came up

<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/12-html-minutes#item03

<Steven> member only

<scribe> ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only [CONTINUES] [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action02]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html

<scribe> ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: Ben to find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

<Steven> That means Monday for me

<Steven> Weds and Fri already taken

Possibilities: Friday 9am, Monday 9,10,11,

no on Monday 11

next meeting: Monday, Sep. 25th, 9am

[unscribed discussion about how to "flag an RDFa page," with explanations coming on the mailing list. Lack of scribing due to lack of manpower, nothing confidential.]

1300 UTC

<RalphS> hey, sorry, folks; I never put this in my calendar for today :(

going over actions:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Aug/0005.html

<Steven> ralph, call moved to next monday

<scribe> ACTION: Mark add words about anonymous nodes to CURIE editors' draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action05]

<Steven> OK with you? 13UTC

<scribe> -- DONE

<RalphS> Monday 1300Z will be a squeeze for me but I think I can do it

<scribe> ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]

<RalphS> I won't be able to do Mondays 1300Z on a regular basis though

<scribe> ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Ben update the issues list [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1 [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]

Ben: GRDDL WG receptive RDFa
... still working on convincing WG on the specific use case of hGRDDL

<scribe> ACTION: Mark contact schneegans.de folk about connecting with our work [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

<scribe> ACTION: Ben to put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action11]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Ben to find Elias's question and link to relevant discussion in the past [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Ben to put together Lee and Elias's emails into the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: All TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben make sure RDFA bookmarklet runs locally [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben update the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben write a prototype hGRDDL profile for XHTML 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark contact schneegans.de folk about connecting with our work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Ben answer Dan's follow-your-nose comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action03]
 
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