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Commenter: James Salsman <jsalsman@talknicer.com>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeOntology for Media Resource 1.0 /**/ /**/ /* added fo... Ontology for Media Resource 1.0 W3C Working Draft 08 June 2010 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents Appendices 1 Introduction 1.1 Formats in scope 1.2 Formats out of scope 2 Terminology Definition Definition Definition Definition Definition 3 Property value type definitions 3.1 URI 3.2 String 3.3 Integer 3.4 Float 3.5 Date 4 Property definitions 4.1 Core property definitions 4.1.1 Namespace of core property definitions: http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont 4.1.2 Description of the approach followed for the property definitions 4.1.3 Core properties 4.2 Property mapping table 4.2.1 Rationale regarding the mapping table 4.2.1.1 Semantic Level Mappings 4.2.1.2 Syntactic Level Mappings 4.2.1.3 Mapping expression 4.2.2 The mapping table 4.2.2.1 CableLabs 1.1 4.2.2.2 DIG 4.2.2.3 EBUCore 4.2.2.4 EXIF 4.2.2.5 ID3 4.2.2.6 IPTC 4.2.2.7 LOM 4.2.2.8 MediaRDF 4.2.2.9 MediaRSS 4.2.2.10 METS 4.2.2.11 MPEG7 4.2.2.12 OGG 4.2.2.13 SMTPD 4.2.2.14 TVA 4.2.2.15 TXFeed 4.2.2.16 XMP 4.2.2.17 YouTube 5 Conformance Requirements A References (Normative) B References (Non-Normative) C Acknowledgements (Non-Normative)
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Ontology for Media Resource questions:

Why is speex not included?

Why is VP8 not included? Ref. http://www.webmproject.org and
http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/#licensing

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
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> (8) Report of any Formal Objections....

I would like to formally object to the omission of an audio/x-speex
quality parameter from the API for Media Resource draft, and omission
of speex and vp8 from the Ontology for Media Resource draft.

Sincerely,
James Salsman
invited expert
Device API and Policy (DAP) Working Group

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WG Notes: refer to ref from the Media Fragments WG: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art/Containers we will not introduce quality parameter as we want to keep a simple list of technical properties

Resolution: Dear James, The Media Annotations Working Group has reviewed the comments you sent [1] on the Last Call Working Draft [2] of the Ontlology for Media Resource 1.0 published on 08 June 2010. Thank you for having taken the time to review the document and to send us comments. The Working Group's response to your comment is included below. Please review it carefully and *let us know by email at public-media-annotation@w3.org if you agree with it* or not before deadline date [@@-oct-2010]. In case of disagreement, you are requested to provide a specific solution for or a path to a consensus with the Working Group. If such a consensus cannot be achieved, you will be given the opportunity to raise a formal objection which will then be reviewed by the Director during the transition of this document to the next stage in the W3C Recommendation Track. Thanks, For the Media Annotations Working Group, Thierry Michel, W3C Team Contact 1. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jun/0053.html 2. http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-mediaont-10-20100608/ ----------------- MAWG Resolution: ----------------- The mapping tables included in the Ontology specification are established from the Media Ontology's core properties to various multimedia metadata formats. This list of formats is not closed, nor does it pretend to be exhaustive. A future version of this specification MAY include additional mappings if a need or use case is established for these new mappings. You will read this statement in the Ontology specification. http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-mediaont-10-20100608/#mapping-table To focus on your request to include VP8 and speex in our Ontology, the mapping tables are intended for multimedia *metadata formats*. - VP8 is an open video compression format (codec). - Speex is a free audio codec for Free Speech. These are not *metadata formats*, and therefore not meant to be listed in our mapping tables. The working Group is open to addition of more metadata formats. If there are particular metadata formats that you would like to see included in this specification, please bring your expertise to the working group and we invite you to join the Media Annotations Working Group. We have also discussed the WebM issue. The Group has agreed to include a section for additional mappings to various media container formats, likely (3GP, FLV/Flash, MPEG4(MP4),MOV (Quicktime), OGG, WebM) Please bring your expertise to the working group to fill the following mapping table for WebM. http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/CR/test.php?table=containerWebM It will then be included in the next publication of the Spec.

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