<Mala> #41#40

<scribe> scribe: GiorgosStoilos

minutes of last telecon, axxepted

<PaulaP> +1

<igor> +1

<Hassan> +1

<SaidTabet> +1

<csma> Resolved: accept minutes from 14Feb06

<sandro> http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

<sandro> http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

<StanDevitt> 41#

<Uli> am I identified? Uli?

Liaison

<sandro> (Attendance Verified)

Paul, nothing new

Donald, nothing new on liaison

Use Cases & Requirements

<ChrisW> ACTION: [DONE] Allen: to compile a list of design goal questions for listing in a section of the UC&R draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: allen: to compile a list of design goal questions for listing in a section of the UC&R draft {DONE} [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Dieter, Jos and Harold: To review the Requirements and comment them [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action03]

<ChrisW> ACTION: [CONTINUED] Axel, Dieter, Jos : to review the Requirements (http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Requirements) and comment them. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action04]

<ChrisW> ACTION: [DONE] Harold : to review the Requirements (http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Requirements) and comment them. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action05]

<LeoraMorgenstern> Can this action be continued?

Jeff, nothing done cause I can find the section

<DavidHirtle> +1 to removing the action

<ChrisW> ACTION: [DROPPED] Leora and Jeff: to review the detailed scenario [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action06]

<ChrisW> ACTION: [CONTINUED] Chris Welty will come up with another example narrative for a RichKR use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action07]

<ChrisW> ACTION: [CONTINUED] csma will incite data access discussion on mailing list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action08]

<ChrisW> ACTION: [DROPPED] Frank will do the scenarios for information integration with Ed Barkmeyer assisting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action09]

<edbark> +1

<ChrisW> ACTION: [DONE] Paul Vincent will do the detailed scenario for "Interoperability between rule engines" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action10]

<DaveReynolds> Fair enough!

<LeoraMorgenstern> +1 with Christian: the suggestions are very helpful!

csma, the discussion in the mailing list worths it despite the heavy load mentioned by Jim

csma, the straw poll has been extended till Thursday night

allen, should we revise the document at this point?

<sandro> (yes please, drafting changes soon)

leora, should I edit my part on the Decision Support UC

allen, yes

csma, we should edit the document before the F2F

csma, can we have a reviesed version before the F2F?

<StanDevitt> Is it possible to have a "frozen" copy referenced by the people still reviewing and separately work on a revision for the F2F?

David, some sections are ok, but it depends on the volunteers

<edbark> +1 to Stan

David, can spend some time to revise the document

<sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/ucr/draft-20060215#Information_Integration

sandro, allen & david can edit the docuemnt in the wiki

<StanDevitt> Can you generate a "diff" version?

<ChrisW> Sandro: the straw poll & review is on "frozen" documents

<DavidHirtle> yes, Stan, using the wiki pages

there is a lot of noise

<LeoraMorgenstern> \me Chris, it's not me making the noise ;)

what was the last action on frank?

<LeoraMorgenstern> *No, it started when Frank McCabe was unmuted, and it still there, now that I'm muted.

<sandro> StanDevitt, when I put up the Friday draft, I'll do a nice HTML-diff, which easier to use than the wiki diff. (in the style I used on the charter, like: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/rules/charter2_diff_146_154.html )

<StanDevitt> Thanks.

<sandro> tracker, for people to look at:

<sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/

<sandro> see example for another group: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/

<scribe> ACTION: Ed to synthesize comments on Coverage by Friday and propose ways to answer the comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action11]

<ChrisW> ACTION: Chris to respond to RichKR comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action12]

csma, we had several comments on merging use cases

<ChrisW> ACTION: Said to rspond to "Third Party" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action13]

<ChrisW> ACTION: Leora to respond to "Decision Support" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action14]

<DavidHirtle> ACTION: FrankMcCabe to respond to "Information Integration" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action15]

<Allen> Allen will take action re "Third Party" comments

csma, presentations for Design Goals in the F2F should be aligned with the section on Design Goals provided be Allen

<DavidHirtle> ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action16]

<DavidHirtle> (need to remove 4...)

<ChrisW> ACTION: Said to respond to Human rules comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action17]

paula, I can refine the Requirements doc after the F2F

<ChrisW> ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action18]

<ChrisW> ACTION: paula to clarify list of requirements taking comments into account [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action19]

paula, to present what she did in the F2F?

<PaulaP> yes

classification

<ChrisW> ACTION: [CONTINUED] Chris to start email discussion about what issues are "fuzzy" wrt phase 1 & 2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action20]

ChrisW, people should look in the classification list in the WiKi

<DavidHirtle> ACTION: Paula to respond to "Policy-Based..." comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action21]

<DavidHirtle> ACTION: PaulV to respond to "Cross-Platform..." comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action22]

<PaulaP> 'respond to comments on use cases' means modifying wiki page or writing email?

OWL & RDF COmpatibility

<ChrisW> ACTION: [CONTINUED] csma: will send an email to make a distinction between OWL and RIF roles [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action23]

<DavidHirtle> ACTION: Christian to respond to "Publication" comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html#action24]

<DavidHirtle> (okay, UCR actions should be caught up now)

<ChrisW> f2f agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Feb/0171.html

F2F2

<DavidHirtle> Paula, it means taking into account what comments you can (from emails and the comments box of the poll)

<DavidHirtle> probably a good idea to send an email out when you've done something

<PaulaP> ok, thanks

<DavidHirtle> (at least that's my understanding)

<PaulaP> I don't think we can coordinate with RuleML

<PaulaP> there is not enough time

paula could make a presentation of requirements to open the discussion

<ChrisW> hassan you are barely audible

hassan: what is the format of presentations?

<Allen> Suggestion to design goal presenters: if you have time put a link to your lists in the Design Goal section of UCR doc

<PaulV> Paul V volunteers with Hassan

csma, 15 minute presentations

<PaulaP> +1 to Allen's comment

csma, we have accepted all observers

<Darko> -Darko

<PaulaP> bye

<Jeff_Pan> bye

<Allen> bye

<igor> bye

<StanDevitt> bye

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