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<JeffP> Hi
<raphael> hi JeffP
<raphael> hi giorgos
<giorgos> hi I'm calling now
<giorgos> who is on the phone?
<scribe> Scribe: jrvosse
<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0127.html
minutes are accepted
next meeting is Feb 8 is 1pm UTC
agenda amendments: giorgos: I'd like to spend more time on the XG
Agreed
<scribe> ACTION: 1 to done [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: jacco to forward comments from chris catton to swbpd [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: raphael to finish mike's comments: continued [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action03]
Giorgos: I've a problem with mike's comment on unification of the various contributions
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael: I can give it another editorial process, and send it to you on Wednesday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action04]
Vassilis: the use cases need to be more aligned in the structure,
We could adapt the same structure as jacco's eculture use case
like an intro/main/conclusion section
Accepted
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael, Vassilis, Chris: add intro/main part/conclusion structure. Deadline this monday. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: jeff & vassilis to work on the 1st deliverable: continued [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: vassilis send paola the draft when we go public [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action07]
<chalaschek> hi guys...my participation will be minimal...sitting in class right now :)
<scribe> ACTION: item to Jacco send proposal Wed Feb 1 to go public [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action08]
Jacco: we can keep a link to the editor's draft but we can only update the public draft after a new WG vote
Raphael: make sure everyone fills in a change field in the cvs commit
Raphael: Chris has summarized his EXIF work and send it to the list
Mike Ushold's comment applies to all work done: we need to identify the use case and services
<scribe> ACTION: Chris to continue EXIF work in direction suggested by Mike Ushold [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action09]
action by Giorgos w.r.t. the mpeg-7 VDO done, sent to the list
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael send comments to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action10]
<scribe> ACTION: Giorgos send design document of the VDO to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> ACTION: Giorgos to add alignement stuff: continued by other Georgos Stoilos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action12]
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to put the list of standards in the second section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action13]
Giorgos will try all of this before the next teleconf
<giorgos> Stoilos
Giorgos Stoilos will attend the next teleconf
<scribe> ACTION: mail Gavin continued [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action14]
<scribe> ACTION: jacco to work on the VRA stuff continued [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action15]
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to send mail to DFKI, done [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action16]
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff contact DFKI about the XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action17]
status action by ntua to fill the various action promised in Galway?
Giorgos: we have filled in the place holders for the schedule, not done the actual work
So the action is done
List of standards from Vassilis
After we decided about what standards I can put them in the right format
I suggest we keep the relevant standards in the list and explain for each we didn't consider why
<scribe> ACTION: ALL read Vassilis document and select the standards NOT te be included [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action18]
Raphael: TVanytime is not image specific
Vassilis: FOAF and SKOS are in
red because they are not multimedia standards
... so vote and explain briefly why not to include these
standard
so than I can work on this
Deadline: before the next teleconf
Vassilis: if you want to add something, feel free
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael add XMP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action19]
Giorgos: we might get another extension
Raphael: I have some ideas, I can take these from previous publication
It will be an archiving point of view, while NTUA will have more an analysis point of view
The size of the documents is not important
A list of bullits will not be enough
But a bulleted list with short descriptions will be sufficient
Giorgos: we need to do some more research as is planned in k-space
<scribe> ACTION: giorgos to ask for an deadline extnesion [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action20]
<scribe> ACTION: jacco to send first list of requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action21]
<raphael> The minutes of the XG meeting are in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/25-mmxg-minutes.html
Giorgos: the policy of invited experts is less strict than for WGs, even if the formal language is the same on the w3c site
So I think we should go on
Proposal: MMTF intends to contintue as an XG after the end of the WG
Accpeted
Giorgos: should we go with the current 4 partners or extend the number of participant
Raphael: We should extend, but carefully
Jeff: also from industry
<scribe> ACTION: Giorgos send mail to Paola and Yannis to point them to the XG minutes and ask them to help us with the proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action22]
We are talking with Doug Williams from BT
Vassilis: K-Space may also participate in W3C and the XG
Jacco: and Chris Catton from Oxford also expressed interest
<scribe> ACTION: Giorgos to write paragraphs about goal and scope before next teleconf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action23]
<scribe> ACTION: all to find and contact possible participants for the XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html#action24]
Giorgos: suggest to use Multimedia Semantics XG as a working name
accepted
none
<giorgos> thanks Jacco
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