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WCAG Team A Meeting

8 Sep 2005

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Attendees

Present
Alex_Li, Gez_Lemon, Christophe_Strobbe, Gregg_and_Ben, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Makoto, +064893aaaa, David_MacDonald, Takayuki_Watanabe, +39.064.893.aabb, +1.213.408.aacc
Regrets
Chair
Gregg_Vanderheiden
Scribe
ben_

Contents


 

zakim who's on the phone?

What we have and don't.

Guideline 3.2: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#consistent-behavior

<scribe> new issue: how can L1 SC1 be violated? Is using scripting or other methods to rewrite the page/DOM at the same URI and same page title a violation?

issue: for L2 SC1, do we need to define "same order" to clarify that this does not apply to expanding navigation menus or sublists inserted in the middle?

<scribe> ACTION: ben to draft a definition of "same order" to clarify above issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action01]

guide doc should clarify what components are

<Gez> http://juicystudio.com/wcag/changecontext.html

<ColonelSmith> test 92: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/test92.html

<scribe> new issue: should "user interface control" in the definition of change of context be removed or qualified?

<scribe> new issue: "complete change of content" should it say "significant"? "near-complete"? "80%" (ex. is leaving a logo or a navbar in place, but changing everything else a complete change?)

<scribe> new issue: L3 SC1 - Alex's traffic light example - is use of "the same" appropriate here? (perhaps revise to say, "graphical components that appear on multiple pages, including graphical links, are associated with the same functionality and text equivalent wherever they appear")

does the current wording of L3 SC1 imply that they should have the same functionality? if so, should we add?

issue: does using script to validate form data (per guideline 2.5 example from Gez - http://juicystudio.com/wcag/validation.html) violate L3 SC2?

Introduce the format (with new example)

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/09/end-to-end/text-equiv-informative.html

<scribe> ACTION: Christophe draft guide doc for L3 SC2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Alex draft guide doc for L3 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action03]

action 3 = Alex draft guide doc for L2 SC1

<scribe> ACTION: Gez draft guide doc for L2 SC2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Neil draft guide doc for L2 SC3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: gregg draft guide doc for L1 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: ben draft guide doc for L2 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: david draft guide doc for L2 SC4 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action08]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Alex draft guide doc for L3 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: ben draft guide doc for L2 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: ben to draft a definition of "same order" to clarify above issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Christophe draft guide doc for L3 SC2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: david draft guide doc for L2 SC4 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Gez draft guide doc for L2 SC2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: gregg draft guide doc for L1 SC1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Neil draft guide doc for L2 SC3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/08-wcag-teama-minutes.html#action05]
 
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