IRC log of dawg on 2004-11-09
Timestamps are in UTC.
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- +Kendall_Clark
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- -??P0
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- +??P0
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- +DanC
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- +??P3
- 14:30:40 [AndyS]
- zakim, ??P3 is AndyS
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- +AndyS; got it
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- +Farrukh
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- +??P5
- 14:31:05 [SimonR]
- Zakim, ??P0 is SimonR
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- +SimonR; got it
- 14:31:09 [kendall]
- hmm, 9:30 here in the DC part of the east coast :>
- 14:31:46 [kendall]
- someone calling in from a kitchen :>
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- +??P6
- 14:32:40 [JosD]
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- regrets from .. Hiroyuki Sato
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- regrets from Yoshio Fukushige
- 14:33:02 [DanC]
- regrets Yoshio Fukushige
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- and Alberto Reggiori
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- minutes of prev meeting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0210.html
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- don't seem to be in agenda
- 14:34:57 [Zakim]
- + +3249456aaaa
- 14:34:57 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:34:58 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see SimonR, Kendall_Clark, DanC, AndyS, Farrukh, JanneS, DaveB, +3249456aaaa
- 14:35:15 [kendall]
- hi jos
- 14:35:38 [DB-scribe]
- we had regrets from SteveH earlier IIRC
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- 0210 accepted as minutes
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- ericp is chair of next telcon
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- donm is 2004-11-16
- 14:36:58 [DanC]
- Zakim, pick a scribe
- 14:36:58 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kendall_Clark
- 14:36:59 [kendall]
- I'm at risk because of XML 2004
- 14:37:08 [DanC]
- Zakim, pick a scribe
- 14:37:08 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose SimonR
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- scribe is SimonR
- 14:37:24 [DanC]
- regrets: DanC for 16 Nov, 23 Nov, 30 Nov
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- (regrets for me 23, 30th also)
- 14:37:44 [DanC]
- agenda + next SPARQL WD: timing, reviewers
- 14:37:47 [kendall]
- Anyone attending XML 2004 in DC next week?
- 14:37:53 [DB-scribe]
- DanC: can you move Zakim onto new agendums?
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- -JosD
- 14:38:12 [DanC]
- Zakim, take up agendum 1
- 14:38:12 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0244.html" taken up [from DanC]
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- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 1 was just opened, DanC
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- Zakim, close agendum 1
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Use Cases [from DanC]
- 14:38:39 [DanC]
- Zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Use Cases" taken up [from DanC]
- 14:38:50 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's talking
- 14:38:50 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's talking', DanC
- 14:38:58 [DanC]
- Zakim, who is making noise?
- 14:39:08 [Zakim]
- DanC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: SimonR (0%), Farrukh (33%), AndyS (10%), DanC (56%)
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- +JosD
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- EricP went to .. workshop got use case, not appeared so far
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- kendall work on stuff in 0205
- 14:40:12 [AndyS]
- Background here should be less
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- EricP action done
- 14:40:50 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 3. "ftf 4" taken up [from DanC]
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- re 2 - not much wg excitement re use case
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- 14:42:04 [kendall]
- zakim, mute me
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- Kendall_Clark should now be muted
- 14:42:29 [kendall]
- bummer: next f2f is same day as Bush's inauguration, which I was hoping to protest. Suck!
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- ACTION DanC: Make a dawg f2f4 registration form
- 14:42:39 [kendall]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
- 14:42:52 [TomAdams]
- zakim, Tucana is TomAdams
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- sorry, TomAdams, I do not recognize a party named 'Tucana'
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- +[Tucana]
- 14:42:56 [TomAdams]
- zakim, Tucana is TomAdams
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- +TomAdams; got it
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- JanneS to elaborate further on currency, other details in email to lsit
- 14:43:16 [DanC]
- welcome TomAdams
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- what's the weather - could be 0C, or -20C says Jannes - bring a good jacket
- 14:43:54 [kendall]
- whew!
- 14:44:10 [DB-scribe]
- helsinki to espoo - in rush hour, could be 20m
- 14:45:22 [kendall]
- great to know
- 14:45:28 [kendall]
- +10
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- slight pref to Helsinki, I heard from JanneS - walking around, things to see
- 14:45:35 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 4. "ftf 5" taken up [from DanC]
- 14:45:59 [DB-scribe]
- continue EricP action:
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- ACTION EricP: find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March 28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days). Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week. some progress:
- 14:47:38 [DB-scribe]
- notes only TomA on both swbpd wg and da wg
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- also JosD, PatH
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- scheduling nightmare
- 14:48:11 [TomAdams]
- Tom is happy to have an overlap, Dave Wood, Tucana's CTO is co-chair of SWBP
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- AndyS - swig meeting say about sparql
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- DanC - also on plenary day
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- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 5. "Protocol, Interoperability Demonstration Services" taken up [from DanC]
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- protocol draft
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- see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0255.html
- 14:49:32 [DanC]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0255.html http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol/
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- too long to read now, for me
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- KC - didn't want to specify a min protocol with 1 method, got 7 methods, all orthoganal
- 14:51:00 [DB-scribe]
- trying to make it possible to get consensu on diffefrrent methods without affecting the others
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- reflects things we (mindlab) wants to do with rdf queries
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- abstract protocol (5) and a concrete one (7) with http
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- with examples for all the methods in http
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- at http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol/#http
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- KC - deadset against hardocidng query parametsr for a number of reasons
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- [GRAPH_ID] is standing in for some param, not actually using that particular word
- 14:55:02 [ericP]
- .. and probes an ally for bare wires
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- ACTION TomA, JanneS: read the protocol draft http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol/ and email a review to the WG before next telcon
- 14:57:16 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 6. "SPARQL update, issues" taken up [from DanC]
- 14:57:38 [kendall]
- jos: heh :>
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- eric's actions continued
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- ACTION EricP: supply definitions for SELECT (vars ordered or not?) ala http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0151.html
- 14:59:10 [DB-scribe]
- ACTION PatH review SPARQL def'ns post-publication
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- ACTION PatH: review SPARQL def'ns post-publication
- 14:59:25 [ericP]
- ddd
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- ACTION AndyS: to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query
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- DanC asks for somebody else to help on comments list reading, responsing
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- AndyS - missing some things for recording for future work
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- see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/
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- TomA happy to do that, but I'm half a slacker ;)
- 15:01:01 [AndyS]
- The work is bursty - current going quiet - next WD ...
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- ... then LC.
- 15:01:14 [kendall]
- I can help with the next burst, I suspect.
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- TomC is the comment reading, responding person - will get poked by DanC if necessary :)
- 15:01:32 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 7. "SOURCE Issue" taken up [from DanC]
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- my msg on SOURCE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html
- 15:02:01 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's on the phone
- 15:02:01 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's on the phone', DanC
- 15:02:03 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:02:06 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see SimonR, Kendall_Clark, DanC, AndyS, Farrukh, JanneS, DaveB, JosD, TomAdams
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- DanC read it, endorses it
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- AndyS read it, some questions and want a grip on the detail
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- s/a/to get a/
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- questions to the list
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- Farrukh - there are use cases where the source of the data is significant; not read this email yet
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- JanneS - not digested yet
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- ACTION JanneS: review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0256.html and check what happens when no source support is implemented
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- JosD - read it, issue when source is unbound
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- got issue when there is no binding
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- DB - need to see an example
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- KendallC - quickly reading it
- 15:09:45 [kendall]
- my nomenclature "Operation Target Set"
- 15:09:52 [kendall]
- since I have non-query operations
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- suggestion to change Query Graph
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- DB - to Data Graph
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- suggestions Federated Graph
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- for QG
- 15:11:12 [AndyS]
- "Aggregated" is the term we used in UC&R discussions
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- or Set
- 15:12:42 [AndyS]
- I have an implementation that (first pass) seems close but a little different
- 15:13:05 [DB-scribe]
- ACTION DaveB: update the test repository to record or amend tests to correspond to the http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html proposal
- 15:13:36 [DanC]
- ACTION DanC: suggest formal definitions for SOURCE
- 15:13:49 [DanC]
- ... perhaps using larch tools
- 15:14:17 [DB-scribe]
- DaveB ACTION is done
- 15:14:34 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
- 15:14:34 [Zakim]
- agendum 8. "Disjunction issue" taken up [from DanC]
- 15:14:59 [DB-scribe]
- ^- above action is the agenda action for Daveb item5, done
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- SimonR been reading things...
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- and now LEFT OUTER JOIN - can't figure out what it means
- 15:16:44 [DB-scribe]
- with disj you generate NULLS - this var is not bound in this soln
- 15:16:46 [AndyS]
- SQL LEFT OUTER JOIN presumably
- 15:16:57 [DB-scribe]
- for a LOJ, you generate NULLS to preserve values which have 0 answers
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- - no idea what those NULLs mean
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- unless they mean the same things as those in disj(unction)
- 15:17:27 [DB-scribe]
- so maybe proving optional can't be used to implement disjunction
- 15:17:53 [DB-scribe]
- SimonR - cannot answer the last line as yes/no yet
- 15:18:17 [DB-scribe]
- as AndyS has written, has defined things as unbound
- 15:18:41 [DanC]
- ericp, my action regards terms like "queried graph" and "graph name" and such
- 15:18:43 [DB-scribe]
- AndyS - is that not related to the optional scoping rule
- 15:19:05 [DB-scribe]
- LOJ is not defined algebratically
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- so is hard to combine with other things such as disj
- 15:19:19 [ericP]
- danc, gotcha
- 15:19:20 [DB-scribe]
- ^-SR
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- SR - if I have an optional result, I can't look at each soln and interpret what it means.
- 15:19:56 [DB-scribe]
- For everything else, a solution like ?x=foo ?y=bar
- 15:20:05 [DB-scribe]
- with a LOJ, hard to work out what it means
- 15:20:46 [DB-scribe]
- having problem forming an example, or help in the literature to find an interpretation
- 15:21:59 [DB-scribe]
- ACTION Simon: explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise. Point to references, problems with LEFT OUTER JOIN in the literature.
- 15:22:20 [DB-scribe]
- AndyS suggests looking at JosD's tests
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- JosD - keep the variable name in the soln
- 15:23:06 [DanC]
- ... herberand universe ...
- 15:26:39 [DB-scribe]
- record is sketchy here, not following it
- 15:26:57 [DB-scribe]
- ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue
- 15:27:03 [DB-scribe]
- ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'
- 15:27:10 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
- 15:27:10 [Zakim]
- agendum 9. "next SPARQL WD: timing, reviewers" taken up [from DanC]
- 15:27:26 [SimonR]
- The main suspicion I have is that the nulls generated by the left outer join sort-of-mean "there are no values for this variable", whereas the "unconstrained" markers generated by disjunction mean almost exactly the opposite, that the variable could take any value without invalidating the proposition.
- 15:28:39 [ericP]
- simon, i'm curious how those differ
- 15:28:44 [ericP]
- (practicallt)
- 15:28:48 [ericP]
- (practically)
- 15:29:14 [SimonR]
- EricP: Well, imagine how equality works between them, joining, etc....
- 15:30:03 [DB-scribe]
- schedule thoughts
- 15:33:49 [ericP]
- simon, i've not seen a practical problem with SQL in which NULL != NULL
- 15:35:00 [DB-scribe]
- timeliness
- 15:35:58 [DB-scribe]
- Farrukh says around April 2005 would be a great time to have a CR sparql query. earliest.
- 15:36:10 [DanC]
- Farrukh: the project I'm involved in, an open source implementation of EBXML, isn't likely to integrate SPARQL until April 2005... so a Candidate Recommendation at that point would be good.
- 15:36:33 [DanC]
- ACTION DanC: notify SemWeb CG of EbXML possible sync point in April
- 15:36:54 [DB-scribe]
- DaveB, AndyS, SteveH, EricP potentially doing www2005 tutorial, may 2050
- 15:36:55 [DB-scribe]
- 2005
- 15:37:02 [kendall]
- i have same conference concerns, FWIW
- 15:37:27 [DanC]
- Zakim, next agendum
- 15:37:27 [Zakim]
- I do not see any non-closed agenda items, DanC
- 15:37:44 [DB-scribe]
- (belated regrets from HowardK)
- 15:37:56 [TomAdams]
- q+ To talk about spec quickly...
- 15:38:03 [DB-scribe]
- AndyS - UNSAID
- 15:38:12 [DB-scribe]
- ... want to raise the barrier to features coming in
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- not clear there is yet requirement for unsaid. WD1 said likely to be dropped
- 15:38:59 [DB-scribe]
- ... may become more likely
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- DanC will track this decision via an issue
- 15:39:41 [DanC]
- ack TomAdams
- 15:39:50 [DB-scribe]
- TomC - spec question on going to CR
- 15:40:09 [DB-scribe]
- Kowari release early Dec, could start impl early Jan
- 15:40:15 [Zakim]
- -JosD
- 15:40:28 [kendall]
- hmm, /me adds .AU to Expatriation Target Set :)
- 15:40:31 [DB-scribe]
- (Tucana) Dave wanted to know when things stable
- 15:40:40 [AndyS]
- UK likes long vacation over XMas as well. Not for the beach though
- 15:41:01 [kendall]
- US *likes* long holiday over Xmas, it's just that our Evil Overlords don't permit it!
- 15:41:40 [AndyS]
- Timepoint: W3C TechPlenary
- 15:41:41 [DB-scribe]
- TA - April/May would suite for a CR, new software relase
- 15:45:12 [DanC]
- yes, toys to play with is a big deal in getting feedback
- 15:46:10 [DanC]
- ADJOURN.
- 15:46:11 [DB-scribe]
- reported my toy http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0174.html
- 15:46:14 [Zakim]
- -Farrukh
- 15:46:15 [Zakim]
- -JanneS
- 15:46:19 [JosD]
- believes that Jan 2005 last call will be hard (is new language and not like 5 year old N3)
- 15:46:29 [Zakim]
- -DanC
- 15:46:30 [Zakim]
- -DaveB
- 15:47:08 [AndyS]
- Simon?
- 15:47:18 [ericP]
- cheers all
- 15:47:24 [SimonR]
- AndyS: Yes?
- 15:47:38 [SimonR]
- EricP: See you later.
- 15:47:41 [AndyS]
- We said we'd talk about interoperablity
- 15:47:54 [DanC]
- thanks much for the thoughts on the schedule, everybody. I was starting to worry alone, and starting to get grumpy as a result.
- 15:48:02 [SimonR]
- Sure. On the phone, or just IRC?
- 15:48:22 [AndyS]
- Phone (if Tom will allow it)
- 15:48:24 [FarrukhNajmi]
- FarrukhNajmi has left #dawg
- 15:48:43 [SimonR]
- AndyS: We can queue up. :)
- 15:48:48 [AndyS]
- q+
- 15:48:56 [AndyS]
- ack TomAdams
- 15:48:56 [Zakim]
- TomAdams, you wanted to talk about spec quickly...
- 15:49:42 [AndyS]
- Cough, cough
- 15:51:00 [AndyS]
- ack AndyS
- 15:51:16 [TomAdams]
- q+ To hassles Simon to review the Kowari paper ;)
- 15:53:28 [DaveB]
- DaveB has joined #dawg
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- -Kendall_Clark
- 15:53:49 [kendall]
- later, guys. i need lunch soon. :)
- 15:54:18 [TomAdams]
- Good luck guys ;) Simon, if you're not too tired, please take a look at that Kowari paper I sent you. It needs to be submitted in a few hours. Thanks!
- 15:54:23 [Zakim]
- -TomAdams
- 15:56:29 [AndyS]
- http://www.sparql.org/
- 15:57:00 [AndyS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0220.html
- 16:17:32 [Zakim]
- -SimonR
- 16:17:34 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 16:17:35 [Zakim]
- SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
- 16:17:36 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Kendall_Clark, DanC, AndyS, Farrukh, SimonR, JanneS, DaveB, +3249456aaaa, JosD, [Tucana], TomAdams
- 16:40:46 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, make logs world-access
- 16:40:56 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- I see 12 open action items:
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DanC to Make a dawg f2f4 registration form [1]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T14-42-33
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: EricP to find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March 28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days). Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week. some progress: [2]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T14-46-05
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: EricP to supply definitions for SELECT (vars ordered or not?) ala http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0151.html [3]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T14-59-01
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: PatH to review SPARQL def'ns post-publication [4]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T14-59-20
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: AndyS to to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query [5]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T14-59-32
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: JanneS to review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0256.html and check what happens when no source support is implemented [6]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-05-40
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DaveB to update the test repository to record or amend tests to correspond to the http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html proposal [7]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-13-05
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DanC to suggest formal definitions for SOURCE [8]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-13-36
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Simon to explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise. Point to references, problems with LEFT OUTER JOIN in the literature. [9]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-21-59
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: SteveH to own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue [10]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-26-57
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: SteveH to owns issue 'nested optionals' [11]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-27-03
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DanC to notify SemWeb CG of EbXML possible sync point in April [12]
- 16:40:56 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/09-dawg-irc#T15-36-33