IRC log of dawg on 2004-11-02

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14:26:25 [RRSAgent]

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14:26:41 [DanC]

DanC has changed the topic to: RDF Data Access 2 Nov http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/

14:27:58 [DanC]

Regrets: EricP

14:28:29 [AlbertoR]

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14:28:47 [AndyS]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:28:47 [Zakim]

sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is

14:29:06 [AndyS]

zakim, this is DAWG

14:29:06 [Zakim]

ok, AndyS; that matches SW_DAWG()9:30AM

14:29:09 [Zakim]

+AlbertoR

14:29:12 [AndyS]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:29:12 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HowardK, ??P1, ??P2, AlbertoR

14:29:15 [Yoshio]

zakim, call Yoshio-home

14:29:15 [Zakim]

ok, Yoshio; the call is being made

14:29:16 [Zakim]

+Yoshio

14:29:22 [DanC]

Regrets+ Farrukh Najmi

14:29:35 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P2 is AndyS

14:29:35 [Zakim]

+AndyS; got it

14:29:37 [AlbertoR]

Regrest from ErcP too

14:29:38 [Zakim]

+??P5

14:29:42 [SimonR]

That's me: P5.

14:29:46 [AlbertoR]

s/ErcP/EricP/

14:29:58 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P5 is SimonR

14:29:58 [Zakim]

+SimonR; got it

14:30:06 [Zakim]

+DanC

14:30:30 [Zakim]

+Kendall_Clark

14:30:32 [kendall]

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14:30:43 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:30:43 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

14:30:53 [Zakim]

+??P8

14:30:59 [Zakim]

+Kevin

14:31:02 [DanC]

Zakim, ??P8 is DaveB

14:31:02 [Zakim]

+DaveB; got it

14:31:07 [DanC]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:31:07 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HowardK, ??P1, AndyS, AlbertoR, Yoshio, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark (muted), DaveB, Kevin

14:32:13 [HiroyukiS]

P1 is me?

14:32:22 [Zakim]

+SteveH

14:33:14 [kendall]

I have.

14:33:19 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

14:33:19 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

14:33:35 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:33:35 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

14:34:08 [DanC]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:34:08 [Zakim]

On the phone I see HowardK, HiroyukiS, AndyS, AlbertoR, Yoshio, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark (muted), DaveB, Kevin, SteveH

14:34:17 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:34:17 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark was already muted, kendall

14:34:19 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

14:34:19 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

14:35:05 [KevinW]

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14:35:30 [DanC]

agenda + services

14:35:50 [DaveB]

didn't we lose something on the agenda about disjunction last week?

14:36:06 [DanC]

agenda + lifesci debrief

14:36:47 [DanC]

ACTION AlbertoR: owns issue 'DESCRIBE'. CONTINUES. eta: mid nov

14:37:16 [DanC]

agenda + tests (input from alberto, steve)

14:37:27 [DaveB]

I have read Alberto's tests

14:37:40 [SimonR]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0186.html

14:38:06 [DanC]

SimonR: I'm working on connecting kowari to tests.

14:38:14 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:38:14 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

14:38:17 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

14:38:17 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

14:38:35 [kendall]

excuse me

14:38:41 [kendall]

battling a cold

14:38:44 [DaveB]

I am also away 23rd, 30th

14:39:10 [Yoshio]

regrets for the next week (I'm away to attend ISWC2004)

14:39:25 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: owner of issue 'yes or no questions' CONTINUES (pending protocol doc).

14:39:33 [DanC]

ACTION KendallC: write a protocol document draft

14:40:46 [DanC]

ACTION DaveB: Update the source section 9... some progress. CONTINUES

14:40:54 [DanC]

agenda + grammar/syntax ($ etc.)

14:42:03 [DanC]

DONE: ACTION SteveH: take rs:size out of expected results from all tests (let's discuss under tests)

14:42:12 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue

14:42:28 [AlbertoR]

SteveH action done at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0196.html

14:42:36 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'

14:43:10 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:43:10 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

14:43:20 [DanC]

. ACTION EricP: supply definitions for SELECT (vars ordered or not?) ala

14:43:20 [DanC]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0151.html

14:43:43 [DanC]

Minutes of DAWG telecon 2004-10-26 for review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0194.html

14:43:56 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

14:44:03 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

14:44:09 [DanC]

ammended to show regrets from a few. (scribble them in please?)

14:44:24 [DanC]

RESOLVED to accept 0194+regrets

14:44:30 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:44:30 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review record and agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0193.html" taken up [from DanC]

14:44:32 [AlbertoR]

Previous teleconference minutes accepted http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0193.html

14:44:36 [DanC]

Zakim, close agendum 1

14:44:36 [Zakim]

agendum 1 closed

14:44:37 [Zakim]

I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:44:38 [Zakim]

2. services [from DanC]

14:44:42 [DanC]

Zakim, take up agendum 2

14:44:42 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "services" taken up [from DanC]

14:45:21 [AlbertoR]

as amendments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0195.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0197.html

14:45:31 [kendall]

are we being stalked? the heavy breather is bad today.

14:45:34 [DaveB]

EricP, AndyS, SteveH and I have proposed a www2004 workshop on sparql

14:45:55 [SteveH]

And I've been asked to write a couple of paras for Agent Link

14:45:57 [kendall]

www2005?

14:46:02 [DaveB]

& s/workshop/tutorial/

14:46:16 [AlbertoR]

DanC is asking about producers and consumers of DAWG SPARQL enabled services

14:46:26 [kendall]

daveb: in japan?

14:46:49 [DaveB]

it' take a coupla secs to make my rdql demo into a sparql one

14:46:56 [DaveB]

but it wouldn't be too exciting

14:46:58 [AlbertoR]

SteveH they have got some computer science datasets made aval throuhg SPARQL/RSQL interface

14:47:07 [Yoshio]

re: www2005, yes in Makuhari(Chiba)

14:47:19 [patH]

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+PatH

14:47:54 [DaveB]

use my sparql parser, SteveH :)

14:48:07 [SteveH]

DaveB, I will

14:50:29 [AlbertoR]

Alberto (Asemantics) has some SPARQL related demos i.e. take a SPARQL query and generate XML output into an XSLT pipeline - and some SPARQL to iCal

14:50:37 [SimonR]

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14:50:55 [Zakim]

+??P12

14:51:18 [AlbertoR]

DaveB has some demos about educational material which might be put aval under a SPARQL interface

14:51:56 [AndyS]

Who is planning to have a client or server over the protocol by March? Not (just) a query engine i.e. where can we work over the web between two implementations?

14:52:21 [SimonR]

We'll certainly have it by then.

14:52:22 [DaveB]

the protocol better turn up soon, for that ;)

14:52:24 [SimonR]

, Andy.

14:52:46 [kendall]

I'm planning to have a client by March.

14:53:00 [AndyS]

I'll have both soon, SimonR - let's try to interwork

14:53:20 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:53:20 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "lifesci debrief" taken up [from DanC]

14:53:22 [SimonR]

AndyS: You're on.

14:53:25 [SteveH]

I'l write a ECMASCript client soon after the protcol/result format is fixedish

14:53:35 [Yoshio]

SPARQL was sparkling

14:53:56 [AndyS]

http://www.w3.org/2004/07/swls-ws.html

14:54:05 [AlbertoR]

AndyS and Kendall reports about Life Science workshop in Boston last week

14:54:23 [DanC]

W3C Workshop on Semantic Web for Life Sciences http://www.w3.org/2004/07/swls-ws.html

14:55:19 [AlbertoR]

Kendall says that the Life Science community seems needing a technology as DAWG SPARQL (query language and protocol)

14:55:58 [AlbertoR]

AndyS says that there is an increasing awareness about RDF and related technologies (DAWG also)

14:56:16 [DanC]

Zakim, next agenum

14:56:16 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'next agenum', DanC

14:56:20 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:56:20 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "tests (input from alberto, steve)" taken up [from DanC]

14:56:27 [DaveB]

did somebody say there was a new UC from the workshop?

14:56:30 [AlbertoR]

but most solutions are still "centralistic" and not really fitting the RDF model

14:56:49 [Yoshio]

data federation was needed definitely

14:56:58 [AndyS]

s/most solutions/some solutions/ esp if need fixed data models

14:57:19 [kendall]

andy: yr right about the variations, but i meant specifically the pharma corps. there was variation across the whole workshop.

14:57:47 [AlbertoR]

DaveB started to digest some SOURCE test cases as provided by Alberto - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0198.html

14:57:48 [DaveB]

see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0198.html

14:58:33 [patH]

Chris Bizer just posted a msg to rdf-interest about querying named graphs, based on RDQL. Interesting.

14:58:33 [AlbertoR]

DaveB points out that we need a simple vocabulary to describe the type of input and output (and query) documents

14:59:04 [AndyS]

+1 (mildly) to typing input and output

15:00:35 [AlbertoR]

Alberto supports RDF/XML as the format for input and output of tests

15:00:48 [AlbertoR]

even though N3/Turtle syntax is pretty handy to type

15:01:20 [patH]

Why not publish tests in both formats?

15:01:21 [SimonR]

+1 to Alberto's comments.

15:01:22 [AlbertoR]

SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML

15:01:36 [AlbertoR]

ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML

15:02:10 [DaveB]

won't the urls have to change s/.n3/.rdf/ in all the queries, manifests etc.?

15:02:47 [SimonR]

I'd really prefer to have only one normative version of the tests.

15:02:47 [AlbertoR]

manifest.rdf is for RDF/XMl

15:02:53 [AlbertoR]

manifest.n3 N3/Turtle

15:03:27 [patH]

if there is only one (normative) then it should be the official XML.

15:03:45 [AlbertoR]

SimonR supports RDF/XML syntax for tests - but is alos looking into Turtle

15:04:14 [Yoshio]

I respect RDF/XML as a lingua franca

15:04:28 [DaveB]

also Sesame's got a standalone Turtle parser in RIO

15:04:55 [AlbertoR]

AndyS points out that SPARQL spec/document still contains some Turtle/N3 syntax vs. RDF/XML i.e. easier to read

15:05:23 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/

15:05:32 [DanC]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-1a

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15:09:06 [AndyS]

dave - yes - there will be a chnage of URLs somewhere

15:09:08 [AlbertoR]

as soon as we have got some rdf:parserType="LIteral" I think we start to see the benfits of RDF/XML vs. comma,sperated value format

15:09:52 [DanC]

PROPOSAL: that tests shall have input in RDF/XML and turtle, query in SPARQL, output in RDF/XML and turtle, manifest in turtle; manifest to be enhanced to explicitly type files.

15:10:29 [DaveB]

+1

15:11:07 [AndyS]

+1

15:11:07 [AlbertoR]

q+

15:12:25 [AlbertoR]

me

15:12:30 [DanC]

PROPOSAL: that tests shall have input in RDF/XML and turtle, query in SPARQL, output in RDF/XML and turtle, manifest in RDF/xml and turtle; manifest to be enhanced to explicitly type files.

15:12:41 [AlbertoR]

DaveB and AndyS support manufest.n3

15:12:52 [AlbertoR]

DaveB adn Alberto support manifest.n3 and manifest.rdf

15:12:59 [DanC]

so RESOLVED.

15:13:08 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: make it so.

15:14:00 [kendall]

+1

15:14:20 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:14:20 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "grammar/syntax ($ etc.)" taken up [from DanC]

15:15:04 [kendall]

I will object to $ only, I think. FYI.

15:15:12 [AlbertoR]

Discussion is now about $ vs. ? on variable identifiers

15:15:44 [DaveB]

last week's straw poll was very much $-favourable

15:15:58 [AlbertoR]

?: 3 votes

15:16:02 [AlbertoR]

$: 3 votes

15:16:04 [Yoshio]

Yoshio abstains

15:16:13 [HiroyukiS]

+1 for ?

15:16:41 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

15:16:41 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

15:17:02 [AlbertoR]

ACTION: AndyS to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query

15:17:20 [AndyS]

Steve - yes

15:17:24 [AlbertoR]

yes

15:17:29 [SteveH]

fine

15:17:42 [AndyS]

$ is a marker not part of the variable

15:18:07 [AlbertoR]

AndyS the document will stick to ? but $ will be allowed - tests cases will nto generally be affected - but some $ tests cases are needed

15:20:14 [AlbertoR]

discussion continued about newline (\n\r) and if they are allowed

15:20:46 [AndyS]

If one style - make it #

15:20:46 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:20:46 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

15:21:03 [DaveB]

wfm

15:21:03 [AlbertoR]

comments syntax is still in discussion: RDQL had them all (single and multiline) both C, C++ and #

15:21:24 [kendall]

i officially don't care about a language issue. yay for me!

15:22:17 [patH]

Hey, just noticed: ?foo=$foo -1. I think that is a very bad idea. The first character is PART of the variable.

15:22:44 [AlbertoR]

DaveB is working to implement SPARQL syntax and he found is probably too big - we might need some simplifications

15:22:48 [SimonR]

+1 to DaveB's preference for single solutions to grammatical options

15:23:14 [kendall]

+1, as long as mine wins. :)

15:23:33 [SimonR]

+1 even if mine doesn't, frankly

15:23:44 [patH]

kendall, you were made for an election day.

15:23:50 [kendall]

heh

15:23:56 [AlbertoR]

One problem is that the syntax allows "too many syntactic sugar options" for the same clause -

15:24:16 [kendall]

trying to be non-contentious with techie non-citizens *today* is v. hard for me. :)

15:24:19 [AlbertoR]

which makes the grammar just bigger

15:24:52 [AlbertoR]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0190.html

15:25:08 [AlbertoR]

?prefix:var

15:25:39 [AlbertoR]

which would influence the Var terminal symbol into SPARQL BNF

15:26:17 [AlbertoR]

SimonR there has been some offline discussion on IRC today about it with some people

15:26:36 [patH]

suggest use a less generic prefix, "var" gets used for everything. ?prefix:queryVar?

15:26:57 [AlbertoR]

SteveH does not like it

15:27:03 [AlbertoR]

AndyS finds it confusing

15:27:25 [AndyS]

FORTRAN only

15:27:54 [AndyS]

APL?

15:27:54 [DaveB]

I'll think about it re output xml format

15:28:01 [DanC]

Zakim, close this agendum

15:28:01 [Zakim]

agendum 5 closed

15:28:02 [Zakim]

I see nothing remaining on the agenda

15:28:18 [DaveB]

next week - chair, scribe?

15:28:30 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kevin

15:28:36 [AlbertoR]

DaveB will scrabe next week

15:28:42 [AlbertoR]

s/scrabe/scribe/

15:28:45 [DaveB]

since I'm away for 2 weeks after...

15:29:25 [AndyS]

There are comments asking for disjunction

15:29:27 [AlbertoR]

StaveH talking about dropping disjunction - he posted a message but he did not get enough feedback

15:29:29 [DanC]

agenda + disjunction

15:29:33 [DanC]

next agendum

15:29:43 [DanC]

Steve: my position is to drop disjunction entirely.

15:29:56 [DanC]

KC: I wanted to see more on nested optionals first

15:30:07 [AndyS]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Oct/0008.html

15:31:02 [DaveB]

steve's proposal 30Sep http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0604.html

15:33:19 [AlbertoR]

disjunction issue needs more dicussion it seems i.e. drop it, keep simple disjunction or full disjunction

15:33:22 [DaveB]

disjunction cases from f2f3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0492.html

15:33:28 [DanC]

ACTION Simon: explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise.

15:34:28 [AndyS]

We have implementations - don't understand the case for its hard anymore - could someone explain (in email)

15:35:28 [DaveB]

disjun & nested optionals easy?!

15:37:24 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

15:37:24 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

15:37:37 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:37:37 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

15:38:21 [AlbertoR]

simple use-case on predicate dc1:title or dc2:title is good and simple enough to understand to me

15:38:35 [Zakim]

-HowardK

15:38:38 [DanC]

ciao, Howard

15:38:41 [kendall]

AlbertoR: +1

15:39:26 [AlbertoR]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Sep/0000.html motivates simple disjunction

15:40:03 [AlbertoR]

also true we can map that "expression" to some AND ?pred==dc1:title && ?pred==dc2:title -

15:41:32 [DanC]

ACTION JanneS: send Jan ftf logistics

15:41:52 [DanC]

ADJOURN.

15:41:55 [Zakim]

-DaveB

15:41:57 [Zakim]

-PatH

15:41:58 [Zakim]

-JanneS

15:41:59 [Zakim]

-Kendall_Clark

15:41:59 [Zakim]

-DanC

15:42:00 [AlbertoR]

meetign adjourned

15:42:00 [Zakim]

-SimonR

15:42:01 [Zakim]

-Kevin

15:42:02 [Yoshio]

bye bye

15:42:03 [Zakim]

-HiroyukiS

15:42:06 [Zakim]

-AlbertoR

15:42:08 [KevinW]

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15:42:10 [Zakim]

-SteveH

15:42:22 [Zakim]

-Yoshio

15:42:28 [AndyS]

Anything anyone wants to talk about now?

15:42:33 [Zakim]

-AndyS

15:42:34 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended

15:42:35 [Zakim]

Attendees were HowardK, AlbertoR, Yoshio, AndyS, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark, Kevin, DaveB, SteveH, HiroyukiS, PatH, JanneS

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15:42:59 [SimonR]

You mentioned working on early interop....

15:43:19 [AndyS]

SimonR - yes

15:43:27 [SimonR]

Although it looks like my spare time for the next little while is going to be absorbed by the disjunction issue.

15:43:38 [AndyS]

Well - no - interop of one is a bit boring :-)

15:43:52 [AndyS]

s/disjunction/union/ and I heard more agreement.

15:44:18 [AndyS]

and a syntax with "OR" doesn't have a long enough keyword for people to spot !

15:44:40 [AndyS]

Where are you timewise on an networkable implementation?

15:45:57 [SimonR]

Let's see -- I'd have to finish the parser and whatever network layer we're going to use.

15:47:05 [AndyS]

HTTP not SOAP for now?

15:47:14 [SteveH]

yes please

15:47:25 [SimonR]

I despise SOAP -- I'm entirely in favor of HTTP.

15:47:43 [AndyS]

Steve - for WWW2005 - only HTTP because it is hard to set up SOAP in the tutorial.

15:47:55 [SimonR]

Just something simple we can do with servlets, I'd presume?

15:47:56 [AndyS]

Time does down the drain

15:48:15 [AndyS]

Kendall willing :-) YES

15:48:46 [AndyS]

Its hard to see how it can't be as servlets are an API to incoming HTTP

15:49:30 [AndyS]

http://host/service?query=SELECT... and lots of nasty % encodings.

15:49:46 [AndyS]

No comments on the wire :-)

15:50:28 [AndyS]

That sort of thing work for you?

15:50:53 [SimonR]

GET or POST, I don't really mind.

15:50:59 [AndyS]

GET

15:51:14 [SimonR]

I don't think the servlet will care.

15:51:38 [AndyS]

(I do both - GET with ?queryString is not cachded by default in HTTP RFC)

15:51:53 [AndyS]

Servlet does not - just a different entry point.

15:52:11 [SimonR]

And we'll be returning results in one of DaveB's formats, I'd presume.

15:53:31 [AndyS]

Yes for XML (SELECT, ASK), RDF/XML otherwise (SELECT, CONSTRUCT, DESCRIBE) or MIME type neg .. let's leave the latter for now (I have the code already but its not core to SPARQL)

15:53:54 [AndyS]

The XML retrun is the biggest piece of redesign for Joseki and its clients.

15:54:15 [AndyS]

Can we start with RDF of result set?

15:54:44 [SimonR]

I'd prefer that, personally. I thought you pro-XML?

15:55:18 [AndyS]

I'm neutral - it depends what the app wants to do with it.

15:55:54 [AndyS]

I have seen just a few apps RDF->XML outside the XHTML case.

15:56:16 [AndyS]

So RDF it is for stage 1.

15:57:20 [AndyS]

You didn't quite get onto to timescale - but I have a doc to finish so I have limits here

15:57:35 [AndyS]

Anyone else up for interop?

15:58:05 [SimonR]

Realistically, it'll take me a while. I might have something rickety up in a fortnight or so.

15:58:54 [AndyS]

Can't guarantee that but I'll try. I have most of the pieces and some coding will save me from spec overload.

16:00:12 [SimonR]

We'll compare notes again next Tuesday and see where we are. :)

16:00:21 [AndyS]

:-)

16:00:57 [AndyS]

I'll be on IRC as well.

16:01:28 [AndyS]

Need to go now - my otherself will be logging

16:01:35 [SimonR]

See you in time....

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18:31:14 [DanC]

RRSAgent, pointer

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See http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T18-31-14

18:31:22 [DanC]

RRSAgent, make logs world-access

18:31:27 [DanC]

RRSAgent, bye

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

I see 11 open action items:

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ACTION: AlbertoR to owns issue 'DESCRIBE'. CONTINUES. eta: mid nov [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-36-47

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ACTION: DanC to owner of issue 'yes or no questions' CONTINUES (pending protocol doc). [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-39-25

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ACTION: KendallC to write a protocol document draft [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-39-33

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: DaveB to Update the source section 9... some progress. CONTINUES [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-40-46

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ACTION: SteveH to own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-42-12

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ACTION: SteveH to owns issue 'nested optionals' [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-42-36

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML [7]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-01-36

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: SteveH to make it so. [8]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-13-08

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: AndyS to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query [9]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-17-02

18:31:27 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Simon to explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise. [10]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-33-28

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ACTION: JanneS to send Jan ftf logistics [11]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-41-32