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Semantic Annotations for WSDL WG teleconference

16 Jan 2007

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
AS, BNS, CB, CP, CV, EP, HL, JK, JM, RA
Regrets
JF, JBD, LF, LH, PM, TV
Chair
JacekK
Scribe
ericP

Contents


<scribe> scribe: ericP

approval of minutes

<JacekK> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070109

APPROVED, accept http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070109 as a record of the 2007-01-09 meeting

action items

<scribe> ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Joel to send his comments (clarified) to WS-Policy [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Jacek to start an implementation report [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action03]

administrivia

JacekK: meeting with W3C folks on monday, so should be able to report on transition on tuesday

<JacekK> implementation report -> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/CR/

JacekK: [notified carine that we will want to publish both docs at the same time]

implementation report

JacekK: we can design tests for generators and parsers

holger: how do we test?

JacekK: we can re-use the wsdl WG's component model
... we can extend it with model reference
... we can use these in testable reports

holger: who manages this process? (how does one get a green tick?)

JacekK: implementors can mail the list, and report maintainers (chair, team) can add the tick

holger: we are about to start this process?

JacekK: yes, need to start gathering details
... list in currently member-only

<JacekK> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/CR/

JacekK: sometimes implementors are motivated to keep some info member-only
... if not, we can make the list public

Amit: table focuses on WSDL 2.0
... we have an impl but it will only count under item 15

JacekK: yes, but I hear you plan to implement 2.0 as well

John: what about IPR?

JacekK: W3C doesn't try to provide implementations.
... just need to gather evidence that the spec is implementable
... download URIs would be a bonus, can be linked from WG page

Amit: is it worth expanding so we cover 1.1 features in more detail?

JacekK: good for the public; not necessary for W3C process
... if we must, we could break feature 15 down into sub-features (ex 15.{6,7,8})

Amit: test suite? interrop event?

JacekK: i think we can only test parsers

Amit: example SAWSDL files?

JacekK: yes. we need SAWSDL files to show each of the feaures
... volunteers?

Amit: we have some

ericP: can we start with the examples from the spec?

Rama: +1

JacekK: we can gather them and add expected output

<JacekK> ACTION: JohnM to start putting together a test suite - set of WSDL files showing the spec features [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action04]

policy issues (including issue 32)

JacekK: waiting for Karthik to provide examples

issue 33: preconditions and effects

rama: new section, 3.7 in the usage guide, which shows SWRL example
... brahmananda is working on WSML examples as well
... i am interested in what other feedback you need

<rama> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/spec/examples/overview.html

JacekK: we will discuss this next week, email discussions welcome

rama: thanks to Tom for his examples

JacekK: we may publish CR around the end of January

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: JohnM to start putting together a test suite - set of WSDL files showing the spec features [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action04]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Eric to upgrade the SPDL page for SAWSDL readers and then work things out with the Usage Guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action01]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Jacek to start an implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Joel to send his comments (clarified) to WS-Policy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20070116#action02]