IRC log of webont on 2002-11-14

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DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt 14Nov. chair: JimH; scribe: JeremyC
15:47:28 [DanCon]
agenda + 14Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0183.html
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16:53:25 [jhendler]
a new proposal,
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do imports like fortran does,
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jeff and dan both hate.
16:53:43 [jhendler]
(another haiku for today :->)
16:54:37 [DanCon]
hoot!
16:56:29 [jhendler]
sbp has ruined me for life - I can only chair a WG 3 sentences at a time (and with the syllables restricted!)
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SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has now started
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+ +1.408.732.aaaa
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+??P1
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- +1.408.732.aaaa
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+ +1.408.732.aaaa
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+Ora_Lassila
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+DanC
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+??P3
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+NickG
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+??P4
17:01:33 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P4 is LarryE
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+LarryE; got it
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+??P10
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+??P7
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+M_Smith
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+Evan_Wallace
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zakim, ??p1 is pfps
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+Pfps; got it
17:01:47 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P3 is JeffH
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+JeffH; got it
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Zakim, ??P7 is RudigerK
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+RudigerK; got it
17:02:03 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:02:04 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.408.732.aaaa, Pfps, Ora_Lassila, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, ??P10, Evan_Wallace
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+??P11
17:02:11 [ora]
zakim, Ora_Lassila is ora
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+Ora; got it
17:02:15 [DanCon]
Zakim, aaaa is JonathanD
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+JonathanD; got it
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Zakim, ??P11 is HermanT
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+??P12
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+HermanT; got it
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Zakim, ??P12 is JeromeE
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+JeromeE; got it
17:02:46 [DanCon]
Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:02:48 [Zakim]
On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, ??P10, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE
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+Jim_Hendler
17:03:39 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P10 is JohnS
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+JohnS; got it
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+??P14
17:03:54 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P14 is IanH
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+IanH; got it
17:04:02 [DanCon]
Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:04:04 [Zakim]
On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH
17:04:32 [DanCon]
agenda?
17:04:37 [jhendler]
zakim, pick a scribe
17:04:39 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose RudigerK
17:04:44 [Massimo]
Zakim, what is the passcode?
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the conference code is 9326, Massimo
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+Massimo
17:05:23 [jhendler]
Rudiger agrees to scribe
17:05:52 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo
17:06:38 [jhendler]
regrets, see WOWG archive
17:07:27 [DanCon]
I 2nd proposal to approve 7Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0157.html
17:08:26 [jhendler]
danC wants to note about LC dependencies
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regrets from Connolly/AC etc.
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zakim, pick a scribe
17:09:21 [DanCon]
... obrst, OMG
17:09:23 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jim_Hendler
17:09:34 [Massimo]
regrets from Massimo too, I'll be flying off Boston
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Logger, pointer?
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See http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/webont/2002-11-14#T17-09-51
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RRSAgent, pointer?
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See http://www.w3.org/2002/11/14-webont-irc#T17-09-57
17:10:17 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
17:10:35 [ChrisW]
zakim, [IBM] is ChrisW
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+ChrisW; got it
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+??P17
17:11:16 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P17 is JeremyC
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+JeremyC; got it
17:11:26 [DanCon]
DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt 14Nov. chair: JimH; scribe: RudigerK
17:12:33 [jhendler]
Ian suggests Travel Inn
17:12:41 [DanCon]
"# Travel Inn (Manchester City Centre)" -- http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/mcr-f2f.shtml <- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/#Current
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+??P18
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zakim, ??p18 is guus
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+Guus; got it
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17:16:07 [jhendler]
zakim, mute Jim_Hendler
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Jim_Hendler should now be muted
17:18:26 [jhendler]
zakim, unmute Jim_Hendler
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Jim_Hendler should no longer be muted
17:20:21 [ChrisW]
how do I know if my rep has voted?
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17:20:38 [ChrisW]
grrrr
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+??P19
17:25:56 [jhendler]
zakim, ??p19 marwan
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I don't understand '??p19 marwan', jhendler
17:26:06 [jhendler]
zakim, ??p19 is marwan
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+Marwan; got it
17:27:35 [ChrisW]
dan, how can I verify if my rep has voted?
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(on the extension)
17:28:11 [DanCon]
er... you can only do that manually, thru me, jim, or your AC rep. I think he has in the IBM case.
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+??P20
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Zakim, ??P20 is JonathanB
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+JonathanB; got it
17:32:41 [jhendler]
zakiim, ??p20 is jonathan
17:32:44 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here
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jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'
17:32:57 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is here?
17:32:58 [Zakim]
On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo, ChrisW, JeremyC, Guus,
17:33:00 [Zakim]
... Marwan, JonathanB
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On IRC I see ChrisW, nmg, guus, jjc, pfps, ora, jhendler, baget, Massimo, logger, RRSAgent, Zakim, DanCon
17:33:03 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here?
17:33:04 [Zakim]
On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo, ChrisW, JeremyC, Guus,
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... Marwan, JonathanB
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On IRC I see ChrisW, nmg, guus, jjc, pfps, ora, jhendler, baget, Massimo, logger, RRSAgent, Zakim, DanCon
17:33:09 [DanCon]
owl:Ontology issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0120.html
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17:34:01 [hth]
Herman waves back to DanCon
17:37:43 [jhendler]
My phone just went dead - Dan, please chair till I get back in
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-Jim_Hendler
17:37:50 [DanCon]
ok
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+Jim_Hendler
17:39:09 [DanCon]
jim are you back?
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thx
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17:48:58 [jjc]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-owl-semantics-20021108/
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-rdf-mt-20021112/
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(relevant docsuments for Issue 5.5)
17:50:16 [Massimo]
jeremy, a hell of the work for this rdfcore round... hat off ;)
17:50:31 [DanCon]
jim, Jeff has put specific stuff on the table; did you see his response to your proposal?
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17:51:17 [guus]
Jim's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0184.html
17:52:34 [DanCon]
jeff's proposal of 1Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0004.html
17:54:46 [DanCon]
Guus, I'd like to hear Jeff's preference as to how to close it, given that he's been doing the issue owner job.
17:54:59 [guus]
OK, will ask him
17:57:53 [DanCon]
Guus, I think you should put the question on Jeff's message of 1Nov
18:03:46 [DanCon]
guus, I think it's time to put the question on Jeff's proposal of 1Nov.
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18:06:05 [DanCon]
there's only 2 against hefflin's proposal; doesn't seem worth web voting. but maybe it's worth the time.
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-Jim_Hendler
18:15:02 [jhendler]
my phone went dead - please hold vote 2-3 min while I call back in
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+Jim_Hendler
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18:21:16 [guus]
q+
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q+
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ack guus
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-JeffH
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-ChrisW
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-Evan_Wallace
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-Marwan
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-JohnS
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-JonathanD
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-IanH
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-Ora
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-JeromeE
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-LarryE
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-NickG
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-RudigerK
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-Massimo
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-Jim_Hendler
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-HermanT
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-M_Smith
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-Guus
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-Pfps
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-JeremyC
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-JonathanB
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-DanC
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SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has ended
19:25:39 [DanCon]
RRSAgent, pointer?
19:25:39 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2002/11/14-webont-irc#T19-25-39
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