IRC log of webont on 2002-07-18

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16:00:54 [DanCon]

Zakim, this is WebO

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ok, DanCon

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+M_Smith

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+??P45

16:01:18 [schreiber]

Zakim, ??P36 is GuusS

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+GuusS; got it

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+??P43

16:01:22 [DanCon]

DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt 18Jul http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0129.html

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Zakim, ??P38 is pfps

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+Pfps; got it

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+Jim_Hendler

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+John_Stanton

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+DanC

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+??P50

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zakim, who is here?

16:03:33 [Zakim]

On the phone I see GuusS, Ian_Horrocks, Pfps, ??P39, Mike_Dean, ??P41, ??P42, M_Smith, ??P45, ??P43, Jim_Hendler, John_Stanton, DanC, ??P50

16:03:34 [Zakim]

On IRC I see ChrisW, jhendler, mdean, Zakim, RRSAgent, DanCon, pfps, IanH, herman, DDeRoure, schreiber, logger_1

16:03:59 [Zakim]

+??P31

16:04:05 [ChrisW]

I am here

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+Leo

16:04:30 [DanCon]

larryE, NickG, Herman, Jos D, Welty, McGuinnes

16:04:31 [schreiber]

zakim, JosdeRoo is ??P39

16:04:33 [Zakim]

sorry, schreiber, I do not recognize a party named 'JosdeRoo'

16:04:52 [schreiber]

zakim, ??P39 is JosdeRoo

16:04:54 [Zakim]

+JosdeRoo; got it

16:05:05 [jhendler]

ziv hellman

16:05:06 [DanCon]

Zakim, Ziv is here

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sorry, DanCon, I do not recognize a party named 'Ziv'

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+JeffH

16:05:25 [DanCon]

"Regrets: van Harmelen, Volz, Miller, Dale, Klein, Finin"

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-- from the agenda

16:06:05 [DanCon]

Guus: regrets Wallace, ....?

16:06:11 [jhendler]

Attendance: Guus, Ian, Peter, Mike-Dean, Mike Smith, Jim Hendler, John Stanton, Dan C, Larry, Nick, Herman, Jos, Chris, Deb, Ziv, Leo, Jeff H

16:06:58 [jhendler]

Previous minutes accepted.

16:08:35 [jhendler]

Minutes from f2f -- fixed the name space - extra "23" included

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ACTION: chairs - find photo of face to face example from the discussion of model theory.

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-GuusS

16:15:19 [Zakim]

+ +1.850.202.aaaa - is perhaps PatH?

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attandance: add Pat H.

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+??P5

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zakim, ??p5 is guus

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+Guus; got it

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+??P6

16:18:28 [jhendler]

ACTION: Dan C. to work with Pat H to reconcile the issues of missing discussion of model theory in the log.

16:19:15 [jhendler]

Resolved: accept the f2f minutes as a true record - but add the discussion of model theory breakout (see previous action)

16:19:25 [DanCon]

Zakim, pick a scribe

16:19:26 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Leo

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Attendance: Jeremy Carroll joined

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------- f2f discussion

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16:20:51 [DanCon]

Hi Pat (i.e. party from uwf.edu). try /nick PatH

16:21:06 [jhendler]

Jeremy - what about hotel? should we do the one near HP or the one downtown?

16:21:15 [jhendler]

hotels are comparable.

16:22:37 [DanCon]

if I'm gonna go all the way to Bristol, I'd like access to a little bit of local culture. more than cows.

16:22:53 [jhendler]

general opinion - try for city center

16:22:55 [ChrisW]

how do you know there IS more

16:23:29 [jhendler]

Guus: fifth face to face -- assuming our revised schedule is accepted we need to plan a 5th f2f.

16:23:34 [jhendler]

and maybe 6th

16:24:07 [jhendler]

5th might want to be in Eastern US, probably in mid-Jan.

16:24:39 [Zakim]

+??P7

16:25:05 [jhendler]

attendance: Evan Wallace

16:27:03 [jhendler]

We will take offers for one week - please send them to the mailing list.

16:27:58 [Zakim]

+Jonathan_Borden

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ACTION: Jim H will set up a straw poll based on the offers - this will include choices of Dec/Jan and place

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Agenda+

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16:28:43 [jhendler]

Action review

16:28:45 [PatH]

Dan: I have the webpage. Where exactly should I be looking?

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Action - DanC subclassOf - continued

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Action - OWL name space - in progress

16:30:03 [DanCon]

PatH: "report back of the Model Theory team" starts http://www.w3.org/2002/07/02-webont-irc#T23-02-33

16:30:12 [jhendler]

Action - Pat Model theory - due July 25 - will be Aug 1

16:30:39 [jhendler]

Action Guus - guide format - Continued

16:32:16 [jhendler]

Action Evan - writeup of UML and OMG - continued - aim for July 25

16:32:28 [jhendler]

Action Deb - write up issue re Unique names - completed

16:33:08 [DanCon]

I played around with the DAML validator in the last couple days... it was very useful.

16:33:20 [DanCon]

I found about 25 bugs in a web of 7 ontologies.

16:33:27 [jhendler]

Action - Jim and Mike D - Owl validator - action handled. (Validator in practice)

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Action - tools - EVERYONE DO THIS - continued

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Action Raphael - make large ontology available - continues

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Action Hendler - test on issue 4.2 - cont

16:34:30 [jhendler]

Action Welty - Unique name/Unambiguous - put on agenda for next week

16:34:57 [DanCon]

yes, please let's add that to today's agenda

16:35:15 [jhendler]

agenda+ try to close issue of uniquename

16:35:37 [DanCon]

ACTION Patel-Schneider DONE.

16:35:42 [jhendler]

action - peter - computational difficulties - done

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action - connolly - use case for int. domain - done

16:36:25 [jhendler]

action - Hays/Connolly - review abst syntax - Connolly done; Hays not done

16:36:29 [DanCon]

Peter's action on example: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0096.html

16:36:57 [jhendler]

action - Hays withdrawn on review of Abst Synt

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action - ter Horst - review - done.

16:37:04 [DanCon]

re my action for int. domain http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0132.html

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16:37:31 [DanCon]

ter horst review of ab syn: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0090.html

16:37:34 [jhendler]

agenda - item inserted - straw poll on uniq/unamb names

16:38:16 [jhendler]

ChrisW - proposal - names will be functionalProperty and inverseFunctionalProperty

16:38:51 [DanCon]

proposed: FunctionalProperty and InverseFunctionalProperty

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(note capitalization)

16:39:59 [jhendler]

Chris - to date positive feedback - but no actual "against"

16:40:26 [jhendler]

DanC - some webbies prefer manytoone and onetomany - Dan says he prefers, Evan agrees w/Dan.

16:40:54 [DanCon]

mikes point is a good one... TransitiveProperty is from math-speak.

16:41:15 [DeborahMc]

is the complete listing: transitiveProperty, functionalProperty, symmetricProperty, inverseFunctionalProperty

16:41:27 [jhendler]

Evan - function means different things. Chris - manytoone and onetomany seem to imply "many" but of course it can be 1-1

16:41:39 [DanCon]

DeborahMc, you're missing TransitiveProperty

16:41:45 [DanCon]

oops; no you'ren ot.

16:42:37 [jhendler]

Guus - maybe we've not yet seen all the proposals.

16:43:02 [jhendler]

Ian - singleValuedProperty and InverseSingleValuedProperty

16:43:03 [DanCon]

at the end of the day, this is an arbitrary decision; I'm greatful to Chris for taking the lead. I'm happy to offer him advice, and then I'm likely to accept whatever he proposes.

16:43:39 [jhendler]

Guus - can you write a specific proposal for next week?

16:43:50 [jhendler]

Chris - unclear - what do I do.

16:44:24 [jhendler]

Dan - since you are issue owner, you choose your favorite, you propose that -- if it wins great, if not we return to the drawing board

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-??P6

16:44:30 [jhendler]

Agenda Item 3 - documents

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Feature synopsis document

16:45:50 [jhendler]

Deb - I still have to add "nothing" to the full language

16:46:15 [jhendler]

Guus - have you dealt with issues from Peter? Deb - working on them. Some have questions I'd like discussion on:

16:47:15 [jhendler]

1) discussion of RDF - Deb - I describe what Owl does. what is the issue?

16:48:13 [jhendler]

Peter - I just mean that OWL shouldn't be called a logic language (i.e. all of logic) - suggest rewording.

16:48:23 [jhendler]

Deb - I will weaken.

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Peter/Ian - we should have a definition of feature constructor?

16:50:03 [DanCon]

peter's comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0089.html

16:50:04 [jhendler]

Deb - should we use that term?

16:50:39 [jhendler]

Ian - "class and property constructors?" - Deb, that's fine.

16:51:24 [jhendler]

ACTION: Deb - add "property" to make sure we are using same terms.

16:53:52 [jhendler]

ACTION: Deb to make sure names are same between her document and Mike's.

16:57:17 [ChrisW]

I coun't six grumbles

16:57:43 [jhendler]

Jim - Peter, can you live with how it is? Peter - grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble (+ 2 more)

16:57:51 [jhendler]

Peter - I guess so...

16:58:45 [ChrisW]

YOU CAN ALWAYS GRUMBLE, Ian

16:59:52 [jhendler]

RESOLVED: to release this document pending Deb's final edits and Dan's review thereof

17:00:07 [jhendler]

Resolved - Abstain (Peter, Evan)

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ACTION: DanC to review Deb's final edits of feature document.

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17:00:43 [jhendler]

Mike Dean's document -

17:00:59 [DanCon]

http://www.daml.org/2002/06/webont/owl-ref-proposed

17:01:06 [jhendler]

There is a latest version

17:01:24 [DanCon]

$Id: owl-ref-proposed.html,v 1.26 2002/07/18 01:11:46 mdean Exp $

17:01:46 [jhendler]

main changes - incorporate what RDF has done (in collection)

17:02:02 [jhendler]

some of the domain, range constraints changed by RDF

17:02:26 [DanCon]

I 2nd the citing of the disjointUnionOf issue

17:02:43 [jhendler]

cite two new issues - remove disjointunionof - issue of whether to have both rdfs:class and owl:class

17:03:05 [jhendler]

Still addressing some issues Peter raised

17:03:19 [DanCon]

the phrasing of the rdfs:class and owl:class issue... I disagree; seems close to my action on rdfs:subClassOf vs owl:subClassOf. I should follow up with mike on that..

17:03:20 [jhendler]

http://www.daml.org/2002/06/webont/owl.owl is now a proposed namespace document

17:03:42 [jhendler]

adds some example of use of dublin core with ontology.

17:03:59 [jhendler]

will try to update examples, but maybe not until after publication.

17:04:29 [jhendler]

ACTION: Mike will summarize changes in email to the list. (by next week)

17:04:41 [jhendler]

Guus - what about Peter's comments?

17:05:02 [jhendler]

Mike - addressing them - have addressed the easy to fix ones, still working on others - will explain in the email

17:05:14 [jhendler]

Mike - thanks to Peter for his feedback.

17:05:31 [jhendler]

Dan - Mike are you asking for another week, instead of proposing to publish?? Mike, yes?

17:06:09 [jhendler]

Deb - do you think any terms will change names? Mike - no, unless we resolve the unambiguous stuff.

17:07:04 [pfps]

q+

17:07:35 [DanCon]

I don't think the WG has reviewed mikes doc as much as debs.

17:07:45 [jhendler]

Mike - I can have a new version by Tuesday for us to approve next week.

17:07:52 [DanCon]

i.e. the WG just delegated the rest of the synopsis to deb and me; that hasn't happened for the lang desc.

17:08:14 [pfps]

q-

17:08:18 [jhendler]

Peter - I want to look at the appendix in detail?

17:08:39 [jhendler]

Mike - would like the feedback

17:09:16 [jhendler]

Mike - can I remove the OIL refs? group concurs this is fine.

17:09:20 [DanCon]

no opinion on removing "cf OWL OR"

17:09:28 [DanCon]

(from me)

17:09:50 [jhendler]

ACTION: Peter - will review appendix C.

17:10:01 [jhendler]

rrsagent, actions?

17:10:01 [jhendler]

I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'actions'

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rrsagent, show action items

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I see 8 open action items:

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ACTION: chairs - find photo of face to face example from the discussion of model theory. [1]

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-10-01

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Dan C. to work with Pat H to reconcile the issues of missing discussion of model theory in the log. [2]

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-18-28

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Jim H will set up a straw poll based on the offers - this will include choices of Dec/Jan and place [3]

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-28-21

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Deb - add "property" to make sure we are using same terms. [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-51-24

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ACTION: Deb to make sure names are same between her document and Mike's. [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-53-52

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: DanC to review Deb's final edits of feature document. [6]

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-00-24

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Mike will summarize changes in email to the list. (by next week) [7]

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-04-29

17:10:39 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Peter - will review appendix C. [8]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-09-50

17:11:57 [jhendler]

Peter - reminder, we should move the owl.owl to the appropriate namespace - DanC working on that

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17:12:06 [jhendler]

3.3 - Abstract Syntax document

17:13:16 [jhendler]

correct URI - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0093.html

17:13:35 [jhendler]

which goes to -- http://www-db.research.bell-labs.com/user/pfps/owl/specification.html

17:13:50 [jhendler]

Peter - Herman, did I address the things you cared about?

17:13:58 [jhendler]

Herman - I think it is okay

17:15:17 [jhendler]

Peter - some other issues are problems with punctuation caused by mailers.

17:15:34 [jhendler]

Guus - Dan, you were okay so far? Peter - yes.

17:16:08 [jhendler]

Peter - added examples, will check them carefully

17:16:42 [jhendler]

Dan - I am okay with publishing this in the current form

17:17:14 [jhendler]

Resolved - to release the Abstract Syntax document after final edits by Peter.

17:18:12 [jhendler]

Resolution passes Abstention(Hendler)

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17:21:01 [jhendler]

Discussion of release of Mike's document.

17:21:52 [jhendler]

Mike agrees changes are basically editorial

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Resolved: to release Mike's document pending editorial changes and favorable review of Appendix C

17:22:54 [jhendler]

RESOLVED:

17:23:11 [jhendler]

Guus - I thank the editors for all the hard work (Jim H agrees)

17:25:01 [jhendler]

Dan - 10 min extension to discuss press release.

17:25:06 [jhendler]

Dan - Press release

17:25:16 [jhendler]

1) three bullets about why the world should care

17:25:32 [jhendler]

2) draft press release and have Janet Daley work w/it

17:25:44 [jhendler]

3) Costs money - so needs to be convinced it is worth her money

17:26:01 [jhendler]

4) quotes are hard - but can have endorsements page (we probably wouldn't do that)

17:26:10 [jhendler]

5) list members of org in press release

17:26:27 [jhendler]

(doing endorsements for a WD is probably not needed)

17:26:51 [jhendler]

This goes out on PR newswire.

17:27:10 [jhendler]

does this tend to have good pickup? Dan - tends to get picked up on web pubs

17:27:25 [jhendler]

even w/o press release we tend to get pickup

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Resolution: W3C press release would be desirable - we endorse doing this. Jim H to draft, limited time for WG to interact.

17:30:03 [jhendler]

RESOLVED:

17:30:29 [Zakim]

-??P42

17:30:40 [jhendler]

ACTION: JimH to draft press release - solicits input ASAP from WG members.

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17:31:16 [jhendler]

AOB

17:32:34 [DDeRoure]

One item of AOB - Nick Gibbins was awarded his PhD at our graduation ceremony this afternoon :-)

17:32:56 [jhendler]

Yay Nick!

17:33:09 [ChrisW]

Congratulations!

17:33:26 [jhendler]

WOWG adds our congrats to Nick.

17:33:53 [jhendler]

ADJOURNED

17:33:59 [Zakim]

-??P50

17:34:08 [Zakim]

-M_Smith

17:34:09 [Zakim]

-??P7

17:34:10 [Zakim]

-Guus

17:34:11 [Zakim]

-Pfps

17:34:12 [Zakim]

-??P41

17:34:12 [Zakim]

-Mike_Dean

17:34:13 [Zakim]

-JosdeRoo

17:34:14 [Zakim]

-JeffH

17:34:14 [jhendler]

rrsagent, what are the actions?

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

I see 9 open action items:

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: chairs - find photo of face to face example from the discussion of model theory. [1]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-10-01

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Dan C. to work with Pat H to reconcile the issues of missing discussion of model theory in the log. [2]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-18-28

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Jim H will set up a straw poll based on the offers - this will include choices of Dec/Jan and place [3]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-28-21

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Deb - add "property" to make sure we are using same terms. [4]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-51-24

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Deb to make sure names are same between her document and Mike's. [5]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-53-52

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: DanC to review Deb's final edits of feature document. [6]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-00-24

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Mike will summarize changes in email to the list. (by next week) [7]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-04-29

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Peter - will review appendix C. [8]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-09-50

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: JimH to draft press release - solicits input ASAP from WG members. [9]

17:34:14 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-30-40

17:34:16 [Zakim]

-??P31

17:34:18 [Zakim]

-John_Stanton

17:34:20 [Zakim]

-Leo

17:34:25 [Zakim]

-??P45

17:35:20 [Zakim]

-??P43

17:35:26 [Zakim]

-Ian_Horrocks

17:35:52 [Zakim]

-Jim_Hendler

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-Jonathan_Borden

17:35:54 [Zakim]

-PatH?

17:35:59 [Zakim]

-DanC

17:36:00 [Zakim]

SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has ended

17:36:01 [jhendler]

rrsagent, bookmark

17:36:01 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T17-36-01

17:36:17 [jhendler]

rrsagent, leave.

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

I see 9 open action items:

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: chairs - find photo of face to face example from the discussion of model theory. [1]

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-10-01

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Dan C. to work with Pat H to reconcile the issues of missing discussion of model theory in the log. [2]

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-18-28

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Jim H will set up a straw poll based on the offers - this will include choices of Dec/Jan and place [3]

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-28-21

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Deb - add "property" to make sure we are using same terms. [4]

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-51-24

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Deb to make sure names are same between her document and Mike's. [5]

17:36:17 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/07/18-webont-irc#T16-53-52

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ACTION: DanC to review Deb's final edits of feature document. [6]

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ACTION: Mike will summarize changes in email to the list. (by next week) [7]

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ACTION: Peter - will review appendix C. [8]

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ACTION: JimH to draft press release - solicits input ASAP from WG members. [9]

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