IRC log of ws-arch on 2002-06-18
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- 20:11:52 [RRSAgent]
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- 20:12:35 [chrisf]
- partition that which is in 007 between team and what goes in 019
- 20:19:07 [chrisf]
- d-ag002 The Web Service Architecture must enable reliable, stable and manageable web services
- 20:25:14 [chrisf]
- zulah: let's iterate twice, once for team, once for 019
- 20:29:45 [chrisf]
- take hao's 7.1.2 and put into ac005
- 20:37:31 [chrisf]
- d-ac007.2 The reference architecture is stable and evolves over time
- 20:38:10 [Kreger]
- i'm taking notes too...'
- 20:38:37 [chrisf]
- two sets of fingers better than one:)
- 20:43:28 [Kreger]
- The reference architecture has stable conceptual models, definitions, assumptions, and scope.
- 20:46:00 [Kreger]
- The reference architecture has a well defined versioning policy for the architecture.
- 20:46:57 [Kreger]
- The reference architecture is governed a well defined versioning policy.
- 20:47:14 [Kreger]
- that was 7.2.2
- 20:48:35 [Kreger]
- 7.2.3 Newer versions should be compatible with older versions.
- 20:49:13 [Kreger]
- Heres the new 7.2:
- 20:49:15 [Kreger]
- 7.2 The reference architecture is stable and evolves over time
- 20:49:16 [Kreger]
- 7.2.1 The reference architecture has stable conceptual models, definitions, assumptions, and scopes.
- 20:49:16 [Kreger]
- 7.2.2 The reference architecture is governed a well defined versioning policy.
- 20:49:16 [Kreger]
- 7.2.3 Newer versions should be compatible with older versions.
- 20:57:15 [Kreger]
- Suresh's list:
- 20:57:15 [Kreger]
- AC007.1 goes to AC0019 (restatement of AC0019, and now goes away)
- 20:57:15 [Kreger]
- AC007.1.1 is now part of AC005 for architecture. No need to move to 19.
- 20:57:15 [Kreger]
- AC007.1.2 is covered by AC008
- 20:57:15 [Kreger]
- 1.3 is covered by AC005.9, 5.10
- 21:00:49 [chrisf]
- take suresh's D-AR007.2.1 When a component within the WSA changes, the
- 21:00:50 [chrisf]
- change is precisely identified, and the changed WSA is reliable.
- 21:01:07 [chrisf]
- and add it as a sub bullet of 7.2.3 above
- 21:07:40 [chrisf]
- rrsagent, where am i
- 21:07:40 [chrisf]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'where am i', chrisf. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 21:07:57 [chrisf]
- rrsagent, where am i?
- 21:07:57 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2002/06/18-ws-arch-irc#T21-07-57
- 21:08:10 [Kreger]
- Complete copy of Heather's notes:
- 21:08:13 [Kreger]
- RTF Call Notes
- 21:08:13 [Kreger]
- Split 007 into team goals and web service goals
- 21:08:13 [Kreger]
- Review AG002
- 21:08:13 [Kreger]
- Is it manageable? Or measurable? Measurability is subgoal of manageability. Remove creation and execution. Architecture is two steps to removed from implementation.
- 21:08:13 [Kreger]
- AG002: The Web Service Architecture must enable reliable, stable, and manageable web services.
- 21:08:17 [Kreger]
- So now AC0018 must be expanded to manageable with AR's and AC's for it.
- 21:08:18 [Kreger]
- Starting from Hao's list:
- 21:08:21 [Kreger]
- 7.1 ok
- 21:08:23 [Kreger]
- 7.1.1 covered by ac008, remove
- 21:08:26 [Kreger]
- Move: to AC005
- 21:08:27 [Kreger]
- 7.1.2 The reference architecture is precisely defined without ambiguity
- 21:08:29 [Kreger]
- 7.1.2.1 using s
- 21:12:15 [Kreger]
- 7.1.2.1 using standard definition languages whenever applicable and
- 21:12:15 [Kreger]
- available
- 21:12:15 [Kreger]
- 7.1.2.2 using standard terms, and clearly defined new terms
- 21:12:15 [Kreger]
- 7.1.3 covered by ac0012, remove. Submit 7.1.3 to be merged into AC012.5 or following AC012.7.
- 21:12:15 [Kreger]
- 7.2 The reference architecture is stable and evolves over time
- 21:12:17 [Kreger]
- 7.2.1 The reference architecture has stable conceptual models, definitions, assumptions, and scopes.
- 21:12:19 [Kreger]
- 7.2.2 The reference architecture is governed a well defined versioning policy.
- 21:12:23 [Kreger]
- 7.2.3 Newer versions should be compatible with older versions.
- 21:12:25 [Kreger]
- 7.2.3.1 When a component within the WSA chang
- 21:12:36 [Kreger]
- changes, the
- 21:12:36 [Kreger]
- change is precisely identified, and the changed WSA is reliable.
- 21:12:36 [Kreger]
- 7.2.3.2 The assumptions behind a change in the component,
- 21:12:36 [Kreger]
- and its scope must be clearly stated.
- 21:12:54 [Kreger]
- Suresh's list:
- 21:12:55 [Kreger]
- AR007.1 goes to AC0019 (restatement of AC0019, and now goes away)
- 21:12:55 [Kreger]
- AR007.1.1 is now part of AC005 for architecture. No need to move to 19.
- 21:12:55 [Kreger]
- AR007.1.2 is covered by AC008
- 21:12:55 [Kreger]
- AR007.1.3 is covered by AC005.9, 5.10
- 21:12:55 [Kreger]
- AR007.1.4 is out of scope.
- 21:13:04 [Kreger]
- AC007.2 goes to AC0019 (restatement of AC0019, and now goes away)
- 21:13:05 [Kreger]
- AC007.2.1 - goes to 7.2.3.1
- 21:13:05 [Kreger]
- AC007.2.2 - covered in new 7, need to add versioning to 19
- 21:13:05 [Kreger]
- AC007.2.3 - covered in new 7, out of scope for 19
- 21:13:18 [Kreger]
- Suresh will send out notes and propose wording for versioning for 19.
- 21:13:19 [Kreger]
- Heather and Zulah will work on wording for 18
- 21:13:19 [Kreger]
- We will review 18,19 next week.
- 21:13:19 [Kreger]
- Will review 002, 007 on Thursday at WG call.
- 21:13:37 [Kreger]
- whew!
- 21:13:48 [Kreger]
- still there?
- 21:18:58 [chrisf]
- yup