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Agenda of 2 November 2009 TAG F2F Meeting at (TPAC 2009)

Note proposed start time: 1:30 PM

Nearby: Teleconference details - issues list and Issue Tracker (handling new issues) - www-tag archive - tag archive

1. Convene
   • Chair: Noah, Scribe: TBD
   • Roll call -- Regrets: John Kemp, Jonathan Rees
   • Note future regrets: Tim: [Nov 12, 19, 26; 3 December 3 (probable regrets)]; Noah: [Nov 19 & 26]
   • Agenda Review - this agenda
   • Next Meeting: 6 November 2009 (morning - at TPAC 2009) Chair: Noah; Scribe: TBD
   • Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
   • Approve Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
   • Approve minutes of 8 October 2009
   • Approve minutes of 22 October 2009
3. Administrative items
   • Appoint scribes
   • Reminder that, per agreement on the 8th, our meetings at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday morning.
   • The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still TBD.
   • Proposal: next teleconference will be on Friday, 12 Nov. Note that Noah will be unavailable on Nov. 19 and Nov. 26 (US Thanksgiving).
   • The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to the request to update issue status. Other TAG members are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
   • Reminder of future F2F meetings:
     • 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per resolution of 25 June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman is unsure he'll attend).
     • 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per decision at Sept. 2009 F2F)
4. Privacy policy
   • From minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit 2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
   • ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct 2009
   • ACTION-321 Bug Larry about his input to ACTION-318 - on Noah Due: 29 Oct 2009
5. Efficient XML Interchange
   • Background:
     • The TAG and EXI working groups held a discussion at the 2008 Mandelieu TPAC. Taki Kamiya provided a summary of what we discussed. There were two main subjects:
       1. How to indicate use of EXI when transmitting XML using HTTP
       2. Request by the TAG for improvements to performance analysis of EXI
     • ACTION-176 send comments on exi w.r.t. evaluation and efficiency - on Noah CLOSED: 26 March 2009
     • (NEW) Taki informs the TAG that content-coding tag "exi" has been registered in the IANA registry. Taki notes that: "This content-coding value will be mentioned in the CR version of EXI specification which is expected to be ready for publication soon after the TPAC week."
   • Goals:
     • Discuss the new exi content-coding token.
     • Consider possible response from the TAG to the EXI working group.
6. TPAC Meetings with HTML Working Group
   • Background:
     • TAG will meet with W3C HTML Working Group on Thursday 5 November (afternoon exact time TBD -- Noah has query in to HTML WG chairs)
     • Suggested list of TPAC discussion items for HTML WG and TAG (responses from Paul Cotten with suggested reading; Henry pointing out that the TAG has a concern with the treatment of XHTML documents served as text/html; Dan saying: nope, not that concern: what bothers me is requiring that any document that "happens to conform to XML syntax MUST be sent using the application/xhtml+xml media type"; Dan asking has Microdata really been split out? )
     • Prioritized list of HTML-related issues, originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open Document Format .ods version and an Excel .xls version are also available.)
   • Earlier background:
     • Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F (session 1 and session 2)
     • June 2009 F2F discussion of plans to review HTML 5 drafts
     • Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and Jonathan Rees)
     • HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
     • Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML WG co-chairs (announcement)
     • Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5 draft specification that we agreed to on July 23.
     • Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from the HTML 5 draft. (see email from Dan announcing the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and the associated ACTION-253 requesting that Dan brief us was closed.
     • Ian Hickson announces availability of initial drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in part, in response to a suggestion made by Noah in October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
     • Larry Masinter announces new draft of Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web . Chair's response from Noah (member-only).
   • TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
     • ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should specifications say about error handling? shepherd: Henry Thompson
     • ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no shepherd)
     • ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good practices for designing extensible languages and for handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
     • ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
   • TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
     • ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning - Due: 2009-10-15
     • ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as individual issue) question of 3 words "other applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5 Due: 2009-10-20
     • ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15 (see: email from Noah to HTML chairs)
     • ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan for HTML / TPAC PENDING REVIEW
     • ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to draft for tag@w3.org proposed TAG feedback on the text/html media type registration in the 25 September draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
     • ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
     • ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue for TPAC agenda(s) PENDING REVIEW
   • Goals:
     • Prepare for joint TAG/HTML disucussion on Thursday
     • Review status of TAG actions and issues relating to HTML -- plan next steps
7. ISSUE-61: Forbidding hyperlinks (uriBasedPackageAccess-61)
   • Background (need to flesh out description of this agenda item):
     • Dan Connolly has requested that we discuss Widget package scheme.
8. Pending Review Items:
   • Pending review actions in Tracker
9. Overdue Action Items:
   • Overdue actions in Tracker
10. Any other business