W3C

XML Protocol

12 Oct 2005

Attendees

Present
BEA Systems, David Orchard
Canon, Herve Ruellan
Iona Technologies, Suresh Kodichath
Nokia, Mike Mahan
Oracle, Anish Karmarkar
Sun Microsystems,Marc Hadley
W3C, Yves Lafon
Regrets
IBM, Chris Ferris
IBM, Noah Mendelsohn
Absent
Microsoft Corporation, Mike Vernal
SAP AG, Volker Wiechers
Excused
BEA Systems, Mark Nottingham
Canon, Jean-Jacques Moreau
Microsoft Corporation, Doug Purdy
Oracle, Jeff Mischkinsky
Sun Microsystems, Tony Graham
Sun Microsystems, SeeBeyond, Pete Wenzel
Chair
Mike Mahan
Scribe
Marc Hadley


Contents


 

 

<scribe> scribe: marc

2. Agenda review, scheduling and AOB

AOB: Test collection

3. Approval of minutes:

Sept 28 minutes approved

Oct 5 minutes approved

Action Items: http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/Admin/#pending

2005/08/10: Yves Send a proposal to resolve issue rec33 - now done

2005/09/14: Mike Review appendix K and/or L from Voice Browser - still pending

<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-rec-issues.html#x36

2005/09/28: Yves Create 36rec from

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2005Aug/0004.html - now done

2005/10/5: Anish to respond to his xmlp-comments posting, copying WSA, with early word of likely disposition of optional response - still pending (q: do we need to wait for XMLP response)

will wait for response from Mike letter to WS-A

2005/10/5: Mike figure out the F2F plan - still pending

Mike: would folks be willing to meet on prior or following weekend ?

Anish: prefer not, but if thats the only time...

Marc: Same as Anish, if enough advance so travel plans etc can be made with this in mind then OK

Herve: Didn't catch the response

<herve> I'm not sure I will attend the plenary.

DaveO: prepared to meet if there's a chance of making good progress

<Yves> ACTION: Yves to track W3C's logistics planning for the TP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to coordinate with W3C pleanry organizers wrt to planning for XMLP meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action02]

ACTION 2=

<Yves> ACTION 2-

<Yves> ACTION -2

2005/10/5: Yves to create formal issue for optional response in the

HTTP binding - still pending

5. XMLP requests

6. SOAP 1.2 PER specs

33rec - http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-rec-issues.html#x33 (Behavior of Requesting node on a 3xx response in the SOAP HTTP Binding)

<Yves> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2005Oct/0005.html

Mike: anyone had time to go through Yves proposal

Anish: did take a look, chnaging Web method feature fixes my original problem with the suggested changes

daveo: does this specifically enable the 303 semantics ?

yves: yes, no need to do anything at SOAP level, can do everything in the binding

marc: diffs from my original proposal ?

<anish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-async-tf/2005Feb/0005.html

yves - seems to be the same, no state machine in that proposal but looks compatible

marc: looks good to me

mike: should we close this now ?

yves: maybe wait one more week, would be good to input from Mark Nottingham

<scribe> ACTION: Yves respond to Mark Baker comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action03]

<Yves> ACTION 3= Yves respond to Mark Baker comment wrt rec33

7. New SOAP MEP/Binding work item

Mike: can editors report on progress

Anish: unable to schedule a con-call

Mike: plans to meet this week ?

DaveO: Yes, but proving tricky due to time constraints

8. XOP Issues - Pending, not exhaustive

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2005Aug/0004.html

Herve proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2005Oct/0001.html

Herve: issue wrt what can be optimized
... proposal eithe rto leave text as is or add clarification that EII must only have CII children
... Noah suggested additional text

Anish: Noah changes look good
... originator also happy with Noah's suggested changes

Marc: looks good to me

RESOLUTION: WG accepts Noah's proposal to close this issue

<scribe> ACTION: Herve to send closing email to originator and make change [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION 4=Herve to send closing email for 36rec to originator and make change

<herve> ACTION: Herve to make the changes for rec 34 and 35 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action05]

Test collection bug

anish: two bugs:

T38 lexical representation of mustUnderstand value

role for two of headers is incorrect

should be c instead of B

T27, T58 env

array of items sent, type of array and what is expected do not match

mike: comments ?
... will wait a few days to give folks time to review (only posted yesterday)

<anish> xmlpcomment emails:

<anish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2005Oct/0003.html

mike: will revisit this next week

<anish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2005Oct/0002.html

mike: end of agenda, aob ?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Herve to make the changes for rec 34 and 35 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Herve to send closing email to originator and make change [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves respond to Mark Baker comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to coordinate with W3C pleanry organizers wrt to planning for XMLP meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to track W3C's logistics planning for the TP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/12-xmlprotocol-minutes.html#action01]