XMLP WG telcon minutes, 15 Sept 2004

Based on member-only IRC log

1. Roll
Present 8/8
Canon, Herve Ruellan
IBM, David Fallside
IONA Technologies, Suresh Kodichath
Microsoft Corporation, Martin Gudgin
SAP AG, Volker Wiechers
SeeBeyond, Pete Wenzel
Sun Microsystems, Marc Hadley
W3C, Yves Lafon (scribe)

Excused
Canon, Jean-Jacques Moreau
Microsoft Corporation, Jeff Schlimmer
SAP AG, Gerd Hoelzing
Sun Microsystems, Tony Graham

Regrets
IBM, John Ibbotson
IBM, Noah Mendelsohn
Nokia, Michael Mahan
Oracle, Anish Karmarkar

Absent
BEA Systems, David Orchard
BEA Systems, Mark Nottingham
Oracle, Jeff Mischkinsky


2. Agenda review
No new items called for


3. Minutes
[ScrYves] minutes of july 28 are approved
[ScrYves] minutes of september 8 are approved


4. Action items
[ScrYves] action items:
[ScrYves] Yves: figured out that commentator on issue 504 did comment on the editor's copy and not on the CR doc


5. Status
[ScrYves] no report on media type registration
[ScrYves] XMLP-WSD TF on media type
[Gudge] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/media-types/xml-media-types.html?rev=1.11
[ScrYves] Gudge: a new version of the document is on its way
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[ScrYves] F2F meeting in NYC
[ScrYves] David: no new issues this week, mostly editorial
[ScrYves] proposal is to cancel it.
[ScrYves] (all) agreed
[ScrYves] ACTION: DavidF to send email to the list wrt f2f cancellation
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[ScrYves] Primer review
[ScrYves] goal was to review the primer at the f2f, the new goal is to have Nilo joining a call and do a final round of discussion on the content of the Primer
[ScrYves] ACTION: DavidF to remind WG of the Primer review (29th sep)


6. CR issues
[ScrYves] Test status report
[ScrYves] DavidF: new test page up with all the traces linked
[davidF] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/4/08/implementation.html
[ScrYves] a few links are broken (some logs are missing)
[ScrYves] the WG will have to do a sanity check on this page
[ScrYves] tests for RRSHB are not there yet
[ScrYves] ACTION: DavidF to contact Anish wrt RRSHB tests
[davidF] "http://www.w3.org/mid/DD35CC66F54D8248B6E04232892B6338034EB06E@RED-MSG-43.redmond.corp.microsoft.com"
[ScrYves] Yves: how about adding a ref to the example in point 4?
[ScrYves] Gudge: ok to do that
[ScrYves] issue 501 is closed with amended proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004Sep/0005.html
[ScrYves] amendmend is adding a ref to example in 4.4.3 in point 4
[Gudge] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail for 501 using his proposal and adding a reference to the example in section 4.4.3 in the RRSHB spec for point 4
[ScrYves] --issue 502
[ScrYves] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004Sep/0003.html
[ScrYves] and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004Sep/0002.html
[ScrYves] resolution of 502#5 accepted as-is
[ScrYves] for #6 preference is for option 1, character for character comparison
[ScrYves] proposal is to add a "URI comparison SHOULD be done character-for-character"
[ScrYves] issue 502 is closed with #5 proposal and the proposal above for #6
[ScrYves] ACTION: Rep editors to incorporate resolution of issue 502
[davidF] ACTION: Yves to send closing email to originator and xmlp-comment re 502
[ScrYves] --issue 505
[ScrYves] Marc: should it be on the primer?
[ScrYves] Marc: is it clearly stated in the spec so that the example is not needed
[Gudge] Current text: On the sending side, this feature serializes the SOAP message as described in 3.2 Serialization of a SOAP message and puts the resulting MIME Multipart/Related XOP Package in the HTTP body.
[Gudge] Proposed text: On the sending side, this feature serializes the SOAP message as described in 3.2 Serialization of a SOAP message and puts the MIME headers of the resulting MIME Multipart/Related XOP Package in as HTTP headers and the rest of the package into the HTTP body.
[Gudge] Current text: On the receiving side, this feature extracts the MIME Multipart/Related XOP Package from the HTTP body and deserializes as described in 3.3 Deserialization of a SOAP message. 
[Gudge] Proposed text: On the receiving side, this feature extracts the MIME headers from the HTTP headers and the rest of the MIME Multipart/Related XOP Package from the HTTP body and deserializes as described in 3.3 Deserialization of a SOAP message. 
[ScrYves] issue 505 closed by adding an example in the primer and incorporate the above clarification in MTOM spec
[Gudge] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail for 505
[Gudge] ACTION: Gudge to send mail to Nilo asking him to add an example for 505 to the Primer
[Gudge] ACTION: Editors to incorporate resolution of issue 505
[ScrYves] proposal is to take no action as the processing model doesn't mandate knowing the HTTP caching machanism
[ScrYves] and the example in 4.3.3 covers what is needed to handle the HTTP cache mechanism
[ScrYves] for point 8, it is up to the application to decide if the complete HTTP transaction is required or if the header will not be added
[ScrYves] issue 503 is closed with above proposal
[ScrYves] ACTION: Yves to send email to xmlp-comments and originator to close issue 503
[ScrYves] --issue 500 
[ScrYves] ref to infoset
[ScrYves] second edition doesn't have major changes impacting us
[ScrYves] ACTION: Editors to change ref from infoset 1st edition to infoset 2nd edition

Meeting Adjourned

[RRSAgent] I see 11 open action items:
[RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to send email to the list wrt f2f cancellation [2]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to remind WG of the Primer review (29th sep) [3]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: DavidF to contact Anish wrt RRSHB tests [4]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail for 501 using his proposal and adding a reference to the example in section 4.4.3 in the RRSHB spec for point 4 [5]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Rep editors to incorporate resolution of issue 502 [7]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Yves to send closing email to originator and xmlp-comment re 502 [9]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send closing e-mail for 505 [10]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Gudge to send mail to Nilo asking him to add an example for 505 to the Primer [11]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to incorporate resolution of issue 505 [12]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Yves to send email to xmlp-comments and originator to close issue 503 [13]
[RRSAgent] ACTION: Editors to change ref from infoset 1st edition to infoset 2nd edition [14]